mentoneman
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another great example of the kind of tones i’m chasing
Anje
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That old Lance's Metro 45/100 video in the car shop never gets old! Love it.
The Bogner Fish sounds fantastic too agree, with a slightly more "old modded Marshall" vibe.
The Bogner Fish sounds fantastic too agree, with a slightly more "old modded Marshall" vibe.
JTyson
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Eh’
Gary’s stuff changed more radically than Joe’s ever did over time, but I get what you’re saying. You could still tell it was him every time. The thing that always floored me with Gary was his vibrato, and him knowing when to use it and when to not use it. He could hit a note without it and let the note use the amps volume to get those overtones that you just could not get if you were using vibrato, or he could hit that note and vibrato it like a human voice.
It takes a metric shit ton of hours of woodshedding to get to that, but he could apply it to whatever style he happened to be playing..
Dam I miss him..
I know you do too..
mentoneman
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hopefully the basic sound i’m after is making sense!
when i had Vic do his HG mod on my Peacemaker, i asked him to voice it towards his Plexi 45 for some of that fatter compressed pushed clean like Lance demoed on the 45/100.
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harddriver
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Maybe a Fender Bandmaster with a master volume installed......give you that clean platform then run fuzzes or tubescreamers in front and at 40 watts not 150-200 watts like a 45/100 amp cranked.
Just throwing that out there. You can also mod the Bandmaster to have more Marshall specs if wanted.
mentoneman
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another good example
when i saw Sayce at the Viper Room he had a Cougar/Fuch/Super multi amp rig and his tone was huge and very much in line with the sound i like.
ideally i want to achieve this tone i’m after using my current rack rig with the preamps/pedals i already have. i think the dark horses in this conversation might either be the UA Lion or the Tonex.
integrating one of those to make it switchable as a standalone “preamp” may require a whole lot of recabling/rerouting in the back of my rack as i may have already maxed out all 8 loops in my GCX.
and i REALLY don’t want to integrate an amp switcher/load box option into the rack if i don’t have to.
Anje
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If you like how the UA Lion feels & sounds I'd think it should be a good candidate?
Never played one, but and old late 60's Marshall sure is one of the greatest baselines for such tones.
Never played one, but and old late 60's Marshall sure is one of the greatest baselines for such tones.
mentoneman
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worth a try for sure.
got me thinking if there’s a way to run my current ie4 ch.2 / fender pushed clean preset,
and blend the Lion in parallel ala traditional multi amp rig sound, but scaled down.
seems like the Dumble SRV pile of amps method is still the preferred configuration of choice for the current generation of Stevie tone loving/money is no object blues rock purists (Joe B, John M, Kenny WS, Clapton, Jason I..)
Anje
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Definitely worth a try!
mentoneman
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this weekend…
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harddriver
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Hey Mentoneman I just remembered the Marshall 45/100 uses KT66 power tubes???? Maybe this affects the exact tone you are chasing???
How about a Marshall JTM45 with KT66's or thrown in some KT66's into your favoite plexi circuit and walla........
This video popped up about a Dumble style amp...VHT D60
mentoneman
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Hey Mentoneman I just remembered the Marshall 45/100 uses KT66 power tubes???? Maybe this affects the exact tone you are chasing???
How about a Marshall JTM45 with KT66's or thrown in some KT66's into your favoite plexi circuit and walla........
This video popped up about a Dumble style amp...VHT D60
i love good kt66s in JTM style amps. i’ve played through a few amazing examples and got to hear A/Bs between generic tubes and the real deals. such a huge difference.
i have also played the older VHT D50 amp and really liked it. maybe not as touchy feely as some of the boutiques i’ve owned but very solid for the price. the 20 looks cool!
