AmpliFIRE
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Is this the one that you're selling?
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Yes, but Im considering keeping it, I cant get this tone elsewhere.
As far as sliders, it isnt as drastic as the 4, but off delivers major heavy rock tone!
$peakers are heritage 65 and classic lead 80, and delay is tc flashback.
As far as sliders, it isnt as drastic as the 4, but off delivers major heavy rock tone!
$peakers are heritage 65 and classic lead 80, and delay is tc flashback.
dsquared
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EXPcustom":1rq1103r said:That's what I thought, fully loaded when I heard the amazing sound in your video.
You know a lot of people say "I had a IIC+ and I did not think it was all that great, I have a MkIV or V that sounds just as good." Then I ask them if it was a fully loaded one, they usually answer that it was either a IIC that was upgraded or it was the 60watt version or it did not have the simul-class, etc.
Like I said you got to go fully loaded and when you go C+ or go home.
Fatbagg's head is a IIC upgrade.
I had an upgrade w/simul, geq, reverb, and an x-101 transformer. I sold it, got a loaded III red stripe, and couldn't be happier.
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Ye, mine is a born 1983 IIC, and a 1984 IIC+, converted while they were actually pumping them out at the time. Interesting. So yes, its an upgrade, but an original upgrade, haha!
Amazing.
Amazing.
skoora
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I think I saw your "O" face
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oh, oh.
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ceremony5150
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Amazing tone!
EXPcustom
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fatbagg":1ebecg0u said:
I suspect that's why it sounds so good.
All the upgrades I heard were done much later, so I am curious as to how they changed over the years.
Here is a actual thread on the Boogie forums discussing the differences:
http://forum.grailtone.com/viewtopic.php?f=27&t=40649
Death by Uberschall
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Very nice tone and chops.
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the aXeman
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Must... Have... -drools- No other way to put it. It just sounds SICK!!!!!
jerrydyer
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nice tones...
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GtarLover
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dsquared":1e3jg3hg said:
So, I know there are a few different "stripes" and I am wondering if anyone knows what the sequence of stripes is and what differences are in each.
Tall order I know, but Mesa seems to have let the web page expire or something, thew one with the info. I think clarity would helpful here.
I LOVE the tones you are getting, yet if there are other options to get very close, even just close, then it could be worth exploring.
Stripes I know of are below, not necessarily in order:
-None or black dot (this is the first version)
-Red
-Blue
-Purple
-Green (this is the final version)
Any info would be greatly appreciated...
EXPcustom
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GtarLover":23d2hkjp said:
Better off going with Mesa rack gear if you want to get "close" to a true C+. A early triaxis with a Strategy 400 is one way that I personally know of that will get you 95% of the way there. I know people were using the Quad preamp and 2:90 with good results. Look on the Boogie forum for more advise.
Sure some of the mkIIIs sound good but compared to a real IIC+, I would not say they get "close". There is a reason they sell for 8-900 as opposed to 4k or more like the real C+s.
AmpliFIRE
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+1 to the above
My Quad/2:90 setup sounds as good (if not better) than the 3 real deal, not converted C+'s that I owned.
My Quad/2:90 setup sounds as good (if not better) than the 3 real deal, not converted C+'s that I owned.
dsquared
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GtarLover":26y1dp66 said:
The original site is gone, but check this archive: http://web.archive.org/web/201110102002 ... e/dot.html
Excellent source of info on old Boogies. Here is a summary of the stripes, taken from the link above:
#1 - No mark or a little dot. Only a few hundred then some balck marks or "+"'s .
- Lean and powerful amp with more output power than a IIC+
#2 - Purple: reshaping of R2
- R2 was shaped to be more "rounded" and less gain, with improved level
#3 - Red: R2 is like current Mark III
- R2 further developed and very hot. Lead mode is also tweaked to close in on the IIC+ sound
#4 - Blue: Reshaping of R1
- More aggressive preamp gain - reshaping of R1, Power section made akin to IIC+
#5 - Green/Simul-Class: Final R1 and Lead Channel reshaping
- Cleaner R1, Lead channel reshaping, and unlike other Simul amps, these Mark III's were wired in Pentode - NOT triode in the Class A sockets for more power. Power section is same as Blue otherwise.
dsquared
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EXPcustom":w1vl4t3c said:
Yeah, a lot of subjectivity on how to get close to the C+. Gain wise, I think my red stripe gets me there; cleans and feel-wise is the where I see the delta.
Maybe my upgrade was a 'new' upgrade, no idea when it was converted.
WizardSouth-JP
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great playing, great tone
thiswaythatway
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Well guys, I bought a fully loaded IIC+ months ago for $1200 SHIPPED. Deals are out there, you have to find them. Well, in my case Guitar Center thought it was a Mark III. Long story short, I sold it for $2600 and picked up a no stripe Mark III. Yes, it gets close, in fact the Mark III has more gain and sounds more agressive. The III is that angry Mesa tone and the IIC+ is smoother, but I feel you CAN tweak the III to get very very to the IIC+. People who don't think so haven't owned both to try it or just believe the hype, prices, myth, hoopla, etc.
Yes, the IIC+ is a great amp but the III, Quad, and even IV can get close. A few guys on the Grailtone forum think the Royal Atlantic gets close to the IIC+ as well, I'll find out later this week.
Yes, the IIC+ is a great amp but the III, Quad, and even IV can get close. A few guys on the Grailtone forum think the Royal Atlantic gets close to the IIC+ as well, I'll find out later this week.
fluff191
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Fuuuuuuuuuuuuug that sounds amazing! Great playing man!
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Yea, I had a red III, was awesome! It and the 4 can get close....then again its like substituting orangejuice for orange koolaid. Both are good, but close isn't exact!