Mesa Question

[RJF]

thanks for the input. Seems to me that the number of Mesa Dual rec users is a whole lot higher than people realize..

Have to admit, I've always kind of trashed on Rectos, but after my power tube swap and trying it through my Diezel FL cab, it's become my second favorite amp, right behind the Herbert.

 

[primerib]

I don't like EL34s in a recto. I prefer Vintage 30s over most speakers. Although I do remember liking the Eminence Legends with the recto very much.

But to the OP, you'll just have to try those changes for yourself

 

[petejt]

MarkIVs sound awesome with old Marshall 4x12 cabs loaded with C90s.

 

[Hollywood]

Does any body have input for how these take boosting the front end ?
What sounded good if any thing ?

 

[D-Rock]

Any TS type pedal really...I use 6L6s and 5881s so the mid boost from the my TS gives me the added midrange I need.
I tried EL34s, and I could make them work....but I have other amps that sound better with EL34s than my Recto does.

 

[RJF]

Rectos love boost pedals and active pickups. I run a maxon od9 or TS808 in front of mine. I wouldn't run a recto without a boost.

 

[Little B]

Mesa's for instance, the 4x12 ones- vary greatly in what youll get out of em...I think Ive owned at least one of every era of Mesa..My faves are the 80's metal grill 4x12,s(im actually looking for a bottom), and the mesa traditional 4x12s..these 2 cabs are not as near as loose/phat sounding than the recto cabs, if youre looking for tight/ agressive/percussiveness from a cab..A buddy of mine on RT & me actually did a shootout years ago in a local store w/ these cabs- same head into each..The recto cabs were the "loosest/flubbiest sounding of em all....but maybe thats what youll like..to each thier own..Mesa makes great stuff-(dont forget its also the type of speaker too.

 

[stephen sawall]

In my Tremoverb my favorite tubes are vintage 6CA7. After that I like JJ77. 6L6, KT66 and 5881 are also very cool... but a pretty different sound. The cleans in general are a lot better with the 6L6 family.

My favorite speakers with this amp are a combination of (2)greenbacks, (2)H30 and (4)vintage 30. If you want to hear something very heavy try some K100 ( also known as K85)....It is a very aggressive sound with a DR.

Like all tube amps the poweramp is a big part of the voicing ..... to get the best results with many sounds I use the masters in the 1/3 o'clock range (THD Hot Plate to control dB's).

I see the DR sound just as much a classic as a Twin and Super Lead. The sound very much has become a staple in music. Nothing really sounds like them.

The DR reacts very good to a lot of tubes and speakers ....all this stuff is a matter of what kind of sound you are going after and taste. ... What tubes and speakers I use with my Tremoverb depends on my needs at the time...

 

[Pulsonic]

'92 F DR arriving tomorrow. Thinking about RJF ^/Eurotube KT66/KT88 setup. Have a few sets of vintage GEC's, no Genalex 88's of course =\ so may try to go GEC/JJ route if doable. Have a bunch of old pre glass. Got into CV4004 type pre's in '06 before the madness set in.

My question - Have two '70 pre-Rola H-magnet cabs. Will the Rev F kill those boxes, or not a decent EQ ? Don't want to murder those stock Pulsonics. I'll find a broken in Std. Recto cab if required. Tone target is Dogman. Understand that was Racto.

 

[skullfxr]

I don't agree at all that a Dual Rec is not designed for EL34's. The bias switch works fine and many people PREFER EL34's over the 6L6's in the dual rec because it helps bring out some extra mid range from an amp that is voiced somewhat scooped.

Me personally I run the KT88/KT66 combo in my rev F 2 channel and love it. When combined with a boost and my Diezel FL 412 cab, SUPER tight low end.

I put E34L's in my dual and it really woke it up. I like British tubes in mesas.

The dual sounds great with k85`s. That would be my second pick to the v30's/mesa speakers.

I have a Nomad 100 2x12 combo, I have done a lot of tweaking with it to get it where it is, but I have a V30 and a T75 in it, and that was the thing that put it over the edge to finally get what I wanted out of it. It has EL34's in it too. Totally different than it sounded stock.

 

[psychodave]

'92 F DR arriving tomorrow. Thinking about RJF ^/Eurotube KT66/KT88 setup. Have a few sets of vintage GEC's, no Genalex 88's of course =\ so may try to go GEC/JJ route if doable. Have a bunch of old pre glass. Got into CV4004 type pre's in '06 before the madness set in.

My question - Have two '70 pre-Rola H-magnet cabs. Will the Rev F kill those boxes, or not a decent EQ ? Don't want to murder those stock Pulsonics. I'll find a broken in Std. Recto cab if required. Tone target is Dogman. Understand that was Racto.

Yes, the recto will kill those speakers.

 

[Detroit1973]

1. Dual Rec is designed for 6L6 tubes. Although you CAN switch it to EL-34, this is not a good move and should be avoided. You will lose the beauty of the 6L6 tone and end up with less headroom and a dirtier, more jagged sound. Given that rectos aren't known for being the tightest bottomed amps, stick with the cleaner tube choice, and the one for which it was really designed

This is just plain BULLSHIT! Tell that to Devin Townsend or My Homie Mike from Walls of Jericho...They both use EL34's in their Rectos & they sound amazing.

 

[Racerxrated]

'92 F DR arriving tomorrow. Thinking about RJF ^/Eurotube KT66/KT88 setup. Have a few sets of vintage GEC's, no Genalex 88's of course =\ so may try to go GEC/JJ route if doable. Have a bunch of old pre glass. Got into CV4004 type pre's in '06 before the madness set in.

My question - Have two '70 pre-Rola H-magnet cabs. Will the Rev F kill those boxes, or not a decent EQ ? Don't want to murder those stock Pulsonics. I'll find a broken in Std. Recto cab if required. Tone target is Dogman. Understand that was Racto.

Yes, the recto will kill those speakers.

So those H mags are 25w apiece? The dual is rated at 100w, and since Triples are really around 120w I'd guess the duals are less than 100w also? If those cabs are 100w I'd think you'd be ok in a similar way like running a Superlead through them, I'd just be careful not to max out the amp and keep it less than cranked....
I have a 2C+ Coliseum, at 180w I've been running it through a 76 cab with original G12M Creamback RIC cones and it's been fine, although I don't push it too hard. Sounds like someone mixed a Mark and a Marshall through that cab. Just amazing to my ears.

 

[skullfxr]

I want to say again, I liked E34L's in there. More than EL34's. They are a little different tubes, retain the 6L6 lows and have the more upper midrange. Put those through a quad of K85's and it's like a freight train. The Mesa V30's are still a great match IMO.


I heard some awesome clips of one with KT88's. I have not personally tried that however.

 

[Exo-metal]

My old creambacks sounds killer with my C+ Coliseum too. So yea the Mesa through g12m or h celestions sound deadly. I have always wanted to try the equivalent tone tubby or scumbacks too but haven't had the chance.

 

[LP Freak]

This thread is from 8 years ago

 

[Pulsonic]

'92 F DR arriving tomorrow. Thinking about RJF ^/Eurotube KT66/KT88 setup. Have a few sets of vintage GEC's, no Genalex 88's of course =\ so may try to go GEC/JJ route if doable. Have a bunch of old pre glass. Got into CV4004 type pre's in '06 before the madness set in.

My question - Have two '70 pre-Rola H-magnet cabs. Will the Rev F kill those boxes, or not a decent EQ ? Don't want to murder those stock Pulsonics. I'll find a broken in Std. Recto cab if required. Tone target is Dogman. Understand that was Racto.

Yes, the recto will kill those speakers.

So those H mags are 25w apiece? The dual is rated at 100w, and since Triples are really around 120w I'd guess the duals are less than 100w also? If those cabs are 100w I'd think you'd be ok in a similar way like running a Superlead through them, I'd just be careful not to max out the amp and keep it less than cranked....
I have a 2C+ Coliseum, at 180w I've been running it through a 76 cab with original G12M Creamback RIC cones and it's been fine, although I don't push it too hard. Sounds like someone mixed a Mark and a Marshall through that cab. Just amazing to my ears.

Sí X - 25w Pulsonic G12H25's in each cab (Model 1987's) - they kill in my vintage circuits of course; but Mesa OS seems to be the preferred modern tone/cab for DR heads. V30's are meh to me, but proof is in the records I guess. Thx guys - onward.

 

[Exo-metal]

You mean g12m if they're 25s

 

[311boogieman]

I use Mesa Vintage 30s with my Recto and wouldn't really recommend anything else.

But yeah, this is an old thread talpa. You have a very valid question/situation so feel free to start your own thread and welcome to Rig-Talk

I'm only posting because it is at the top already.

 

[Racerxrated]

'92 F DR arriving tomorrow. Thinking about RJF ^/Eurotube KT66/KT88 setup. Have a few sets of vintage GEC's, no Genalex 88's of course =\ so may try to go GEC/JJ route if doable. Have a bunch of old pre glass. Got into CV4004 type pre's in '06 before the madness set in.

My question - Have two '70 pre-Rola H-magnet cabs. Will the Rev F kill those boxes, or not a decent EQ ? Don't want to murder those stock Pulsonics. I'll find a broken in Std. Recto cab if required. Tone target is Dogman. Understand that was Racto.

Yes, the recto will kill those speakers.

So those H mags are 25w apiece? The dual is rated at 100w, and since Triples are really around 120w I'd guess the duals are less than 100w also? If those cabs are 100w I'd think you'd be ok in a similar way like running a Superlead through them, I'd just be careful not to max out the amp and keep it less than cranked....
I have a 2C+ Coliseum, at 180w I've been running it through a 76 cab with original G12M Creamback RIC cones and it's been fine, although I don't push it too hard. Sounds like someone mixed a Mark and a Marshall through that cab. Just amazing to my ears.

Sí X - 25w Pulsonic G12H25's in each cab (Model 1987's) - they kill in my vintage circuits of course; but Mesa OS seems to be the preferred modern tone/cab for DR heads. V30's are meh to me, but proof is in the records I guess. Thx guys - onward.

I will tell you, that I didn't care for V30s of any type(Marshall, Mesa, British or Chinese) with one exception..running with a Jubilee...but then I tried a Mesa traditional with a C+ and a Triple, WOW what a difference when running a Mesa through V30s. Like they were made for each other. GBs and similar work well too...but V30s sounded amazing and I never thought I'd ever say that.