311boogieman
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Shit dude, I was just there not that long ago. Fall 2024
Shit dude, I was just there not that long ago. Fall 2024
DanTravis62
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If you ever make it back hit me up!! I'm in wenatchee, of course.
Speeddemon
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MEINE GUTE, that's horseshit if I ever heard it...
There's soooo much good music from the 80's, even besides rock and metal, if I started naming bands/albums that were musically relevant for history, released in the 80's, we'd be here all night, yet I'm not sure I can name one musically relevant album from the 2020's. I'm not talking about your personal preferences, I'm talking about 'how music was different before album X and changed course after'.
But hey, if you'd rather live in a world without Welcome To Hell/Black Metal, Number of the Beast, Screaming for Vengeance, Melissa, Master of Puppets/Reign in Blood (take your '86 pick), Seven Churches, Scream Bloody Gore/Leprosy (just focussing on metal for brevity) and listen to Mumford & Sons, you do you.
Just do it like really faaaar away from anyone with actual taste.
Anyway, back onto the main topic:
@DanTravis62 While I do agree with most of the points of the video, especially the part around 18m30s about putting on a voice, I sorta get the feeling most of the criticisms could be applied to any 'hype' genre when it first emerged; as some in this topic also pointed out about the silly conformist anti-conformism of punk(rock). "I'm against society... boring conformist sheeple are lame. I want anarchy! And I'll show this by dressing EXACTLY like any other anti-conformist..."
It's just a thing of most, if not all subcultures. People want to fit with some group, at some point some over-arching group identity emerges and people will either conciously or subconciously mold/adhere/gravitate to that identity, all visual style parts included.
I mean, one of my favourite metal genres, thrash...you'd better bring some black skinny jeans, a bullet belt and white hi-tops if you wanna look the part. And for all the 'too cool for school' guys claiming 'that's superficial, dude, I'm a bad ass non-conformist. I forge my own path!'... sure buddy, fine. Then don't go looking to mid/late 80's band photo's of Slayer, Nuclear Assault, Metallica, Kreator, etc.
The thing that DOES resonate and irritate most with me is the insincerity of this hipster music fad; whether you like it or not, at least Vince Neil and his crüe actually lived and breathed the debouchery lifestyle they sang about. The guys in Slayer were/are actually extremely interested in WWII, the sick psychology of the human mind, etc.
And some weird Norwegian black-and-white painted doofuses actually burned churches and even killed people. Not saying that it was right...but well...they...practiced what they preached.
Unlike these fake ass Amish-pretending, look-at-me-being-salt-of-the-earth-yet-safely-surburbs-grown-with-a-creditcard, doing weird voice acts.
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romanianreaper
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I'm with you Speeddemon. The 80s birthed the most amazing music, covering the gamut.
Speeddemon
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Beyond Black
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Right on, the 80’s were a glorious time for rock and metal, especially thrash and early DM.MEINE GUTE, that's horseshit if I ever heard it...
There's soooo much good music from the 80's, even besides rock and metal, if I started naming bands/albums that were musically relevant for history, released in the 80's, we'd be here all night, yet I'm not sure I can name one musically relevant album from the 2020's. I'm not talking about your personal preferences, I'm talking about 'how music was different before album X and changed course after'.
But hey, if you'd rather live in a world without Welcome To Hell/Black Metal, Number of the Beast, Screaming for Vengeance, Melissa, Master of Puppets/Reign in Blood (take your '86 pick), Seven Churches, Scream Bloody Gore/Leprosy (just focussing on metal for brevity) and listen to Mumford & Sons, you do you.
Just do it like really faaaar away from anyone with actual taste.
Anyway, back onto the main topic:
@DanTravis62 While I do agree with most of the points of the video, especially the part around 18m30s about putting on a voice, I sorta get the feeling most of the criticisms could be applied to any 'hype' genre when it first emerged; as some in this topic also pointed out about the silly conformist anti-conformism of punk(rock). "I'm against society... boring conformist sheeple are lame. I want anarchy! And I'll show this by dressing EXACTLY like any other anti-conformist..."
It's just a thing of most, if not all subcultures. People want to fit with some group, at some point some over-arching group identity emerges and people will either conciously or subconciously mold/adhere/gravitate to that identity, all visual style parts included.
I mean, one of my favourite metal genres, thrash...you'd better bring some black skinny jeans, a bullet belt and white hi-tops if you wanna look the part. And for all the 'too cool for school' guys claiming 'that's superficial, dude, I'm a bad ass non-conformist. I forge my own path!'... sure buddy, fine. Then don't go looking to mid/late 80's band photo's of Slayer, Nuclear Assault, Metallica, Kreator, etc.
The thing that DOES resonate and irritate most with me is the insincerity of this hipster music fad; whether you like it or not, at least Vince Neil and his crüe actually lived and breathed the debouchery lifestyle they sang about. The guys in Slayer were/are actually extremely interested in WWII, the sick psychology of the human mind, etc.
And some weird Norwegian black-and-white painted doofuses actually burned churches and even killed people. Not saying that it was right...but well...they...practiced what they preached.
Unlike these fake ass Amish-pretending, look-at-me-being-salt-of-the-earth-yet-safely-surburbs-grown-with-a-creditcard, doing weird voice acts.
thegame
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I miss thé 80s too, back when Micheal Jackson only had impure thoughts, well before he acted on them
JonPearson1994
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It all sucks. Stomp/clap, nu-metal, grunge, pop, blues, country, rockabilly, jazz, baroque, romantic, classic, medieval, rap, hip-hop, R&B, funk, fusion, grindcore, hardcore, deathcore, mathcore, metalcore, disco, folk, bluegrass, americana, acid rock, hard rock, classic rock, hair rock, prog rock, math rock, stoner rock, death metal, black metal, doom metal, speed metal, thrash metal, the old stuff, the new stuff the fast stuff, the slow stuff, complicated music, simple music...
Everything, stop listening it's all bad. Just consume. Put down the headphones, turn off your stereo, go out and BUY SOME SHIT. WE GOTTA KEEP THIS ECONOMY GOING, BUY Some STARBUCKS ON THE WAY TO THE WALMART TO STOCK UP FOR YOUR TRIP TO SHOPPING MALL!
Everything, stop listening it's all bad. Just consume. Put down the headphones, turn off your stereo, go out and BUY SOME SHIT. WE GOTTA KEEP THIS ECONOMY GOING, BUY Some STARBUCKS ON THE WAY TO THE WALMART TO STOCK UP FOR YOUR TRIP TO SHOPPING MALL!
Omnipotent1
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Lmao triggered?.. I did Nazi that coming… Hey if you love the 80s do youMEINE GUTE, that's horseshit if I ever heard it...
There's soooo much good music from the 80's, even besides rock and metal, if I started naming bands/albums that were musically relevant for history, released in the 80's, we'd be here all night, yet I'm not sure I can name one musically relevant album from the 2020's. I'm not talking about your personal preferences, I'm talking about 'how music was different before album X and changed course after'.
But hey, if you'd rather live in a world without Welcome To Hell/Black Metal, Number of the Beast, Screaming for Vengeance, Melissa, Master of Puppets/Reign in Blood (take your '86 pick), Seven Churches, Scream Bloody Gore/Leprosy (just focussing on metal for brevity) and listen to Mumford & Sons, you do you.
Just do it like really faaaar away from anyone with actual taste.
If we’re going to talk about taste you’re going to have to diversify your genres/bands. No bland ass brevity shit. You clearly didn’t read my comments after that post. Rock/metal wouldn’t be MY first choice if we’re talking about the 80’s just like the fashion. I know it might piss you off but as much as millennials have to own their era of shitty music & fashion so does Gen X & the 80s. (Definitely not a Mumford guy btw
) Now if you like wearing women’s clothes & make up- do you just keep it faaaaar away from anyone with some actual balls. 
Now I will agree the 80s helped birth some amazing music, & contributed to a better future.
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Speeddemon
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Looks who's actually triggered and closeted now with all your assumptions about my choice of clothing and ball-size... 
Did you miss the part about thrash being one of my fave genres? Nowhere was I claiming that hair metal was the best invention of that era, yet you seem to equal me defending the 80's for music in general with "probably dresses like Steven Pearcy and looks like a wee lil' pussy". Lol.
My beard owns your beard. And balls too probably.
But ok, metal aside, Public Enemy's "It takes a Nation..." , Dire Straits "Brothers in Arms" , U2's 'The Joshua Tree's and Jackson's "Thriller" were all big, genre defining albums released then. Heck, Kate Bush' 'Hounds of Love" probably deserves to be in that list too.
I have spoken.
Did you miss the part about thrash being one of my fave genres? Nowhere was I claiming that hair metal was the best invention of that era, yet you seem to equal me defending the 80's for music in general with "probably dresses like Steven Pearcy and looks like a wee lil' pussy". Lol.
My beard owns your beard. And balls too probably.
But ok, metal aside, Public Enemy's "It takes a Nation..." , Dire Straits "Brothers in Arms" , U2's 'The Joshua Tree's and Jackson's "Thriller" were all big, genre defining albums released then. Heck, Kate Bush' 'Hounds of Love" probably deserves to be in that list too.
I have spoken.
Omnipotent1
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Hey you gave the pic of crue the angry emojiLooks who's actually triggered and closeted now with all your assumptions about my choice of clothing and ball-size...
Did you miss the part about thrash being one of my fave genres? Nowhere was I claiming that hair metal was the best invention of that era, yet you seem to equal me defending the 80's for music in general with "probably dresses like Steven Pearcy and looks like a wee lil' pussy". Lol.
My beard owns your beard. And balls too probably.
But ok, metal aside, Public Enemy's "It takes a Nation..." , Dire Straits "Brothers in Arms" , U2's 'The Joshua Tree's and Jackson's "Thriller" were all big, genre defining albums released then. Heck, Kate Bush' 'Hounds of Love" probably deserves to be in that list too.
I have spoken.
it was a fair assumption…
Now we’re getting somewhere. Look I’m a reasonable man, & am willing to check out anything you & the gang recommend from the 80s. The recommendations I’ve been given through my life are pretty lackluster.. Makes me feel how everyone here is feeling towards the 2010s.. I’m stuck in the late 90s & early 2000s as far as metal goes.. I get my fair share of shit..
If you have 80s thrash recommendations I’m willing to listen.80s I haven’t really found much outside of soul, blues, & pop to make me go DAMN… Sadly. I’ll check out your brevity list.
Anyways- may your beard & balls continue to prosper
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BABMusic
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The result of DEI and Wokeness? Air Guitar championship. I admit I did laugh when I saw one of the guys move.
Speeddemon
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I didn't give that *pic* the angry emoji, it was meant for that specific horse shit statement about the 80's being musically meh or even irrelevant.Hey you gave the pic of crue the angry emoji
[Denzel-voice] okay, okay!
Agent Steel - Skeptic Apocalypse
Anthrax - Spreading the Disease & Among the Living
Dark Angel - Darkness Descends
Death - Scream Bloody Gore & Leprosy
Dio - Holy Diver, Last in Line
Dokken - Tooth and Nail (hey, I never said I didn't like hair metal either
...)Exodus - Bonded by Blood
Forbidden - Forbidden Evil
Helloween - Keeper of the Seven Keys Pt 1
Iron Maiden - Killers, Number of the Beast, Powerslave & Live after Death
Judas Priest - Screaming For Vengeance & Defenders of the Faith
King Diamond - Abigail & Fatal Portrait Kreator - Pleasure to Kill, Extreme Aggression
Lääz Rockit - Know Your Enemy
Merciful Fate - Melissa & Don't Break The Oath
Metallica (first 4 albums basically)
Motörhead - Ace of Spades
Overkill - Under the Influence
Ozzy Osbourne - Blizzard of Ozz
Sepultura - Beneath the Remains
Slayer - Reign in Blood, South of Heaven
S.O.D. - Speak English or Die
Testament - The New Order
Venom - Welcome to Hell & Black Metal
There's probably some more missing, but from the top of my head I consider these mandatory listening material.
See above. (Thrash and more...)The recommendations I’ve been given through my life are pretty lackluster.. Makes me feel how everyone here is feeling towards the 2010s.. I’m stuck in the late 90s & early 2000s as far as metal goes.. I get my fair share of shit..
Anyways- may your beard & balls continue to prosper
Omnipotent1
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I didn't give that *pic* the angry emoji, it was meant for that specific horse shit statement about the 80's being musically meh or even irrelevant.
[Denzel-voice] okay, okay!
Agent Steel - Skeptic Apocalypse
Anthrax - Spreading the Disease & Among the Living
Dark Angel - Darkness Descends
Death - Scream Bloody Gore & Leprosy
Dio - Holy Diver, Last in Line
Dokken - Tooth and Nail (hey, I never said I didn't like hair metal either
Exodus - Bonded by Blood
Forbidden - Forbidden Evil
Helloween - Keeper of the Seven Keys Pt 1
Iron Maiden - Killers, Number of the Beast, Powerslave & Live after Death
Judas Priest - Screaming For Vengeance & Defenders of the Faith
King Diamond - Abigail & Fatal Portrait Kreator - Pleasure to Kill, Extreme Aggression
Lääz Rockit - Know Your Enemy
Merciful Fate - Melissa & Don't Break The Oath
Metallica (first 4 albums basically)
Motörhead - Ace of Spades
Overkill - Under the Influence
Ozzy Osbourne - Blizzard of Ozz
Sepultura - Beneath the Remains
Slayer - Reign in Blood, South of Heaven
S.O.D. - Speak English or Die
Testament - The New Order
Venom - Welcome to Hell & Black Metal
There's probably some more missing, but from the top of my head I consider these mandatory listening material.
See above. (Thrash and more...)
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I must say- Thank you for taking the time to compose this list.
It won’t be neglected, & you have my word I will give it a good listen with an open mind. 
You are a good man. Enjoy your Sunday.
Speeddemon
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You as well!
Just realised I forgot Obituary's "Slowly we Rot" was from '89 and John Tardy's vocal delivery is so awesome and unique, you don't wanna miss out on that, aside from the music being nicely warbly thick really early, old school death metal. (Basically just year 2 after the 'birth' of the genre by Possessed and Death...)
Just realised I forgot Obituary's "Slowly we Rot" was from '89 and John Tardy's vocal delivery is so awesome and unique, you don't wanna miss out on that, aside from the music being nicely warbly thick really early, old school death metal. (Basically just year 2 after the 'birth' of the genre by Possessed and Death...)
Rottweiler
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show starts at 1:00 but the 80's technology expo brings back some memories also. Look at the crowd size. Great time to be a kid.
Omnipotent1
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OMG
that looks like a Woodstock 69 crowd.. half a million damn people there… Sheeeeeesh!!!
DrewJD82
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I got lucky with fashion I guess; despite being a millenail, the Jnco thing only lasted a few months as I discovered Pantera and have been wearing cut off cargo shorts and black/band shirts for the last 30 years.
I can’t imagine what I would have been like in the 80’s, but if my mouth were anything like it was in the 90’s I would have been getting my ass kicked for making fun of the dudes wearing fuckin’ makeup, that’s for sure.
I can’t imagine what I would have been like in the 80’s, but if my mouth were anything like it was in the 90’s I would have been getting my ass kicked for making fun of the dudes wearing fuckin’ makeup, that’s for sure.
teestone
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Gross. I can smell the BO through the screen.
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