My turn...what's a great rack effects processor?

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If you're happy with your Intellifex and Replifex, why bother?
 
I just got the G-Major II, and I've owned both devices you currently have, Dave. I've also owned an Axe-Fx Ultra and Eventide Eclipse, among others.

Pros on the G-Major II:
It's like a combination of both devices you currently have and then some
It's fairly transparent
I got it brand new for $365 shipped
Effects are very good

Cons of the G-Major II:
It's still not quite as transparent as the Intellifex pre-HUSH, but it's very close
Chorus isn't as good as the 8 voice chorus on the Intellifex, but it's definitely usable
Interface is a touch harder to get used to, but that could just be because I've used the Rocktron stuff for ages. There's a PC/Mac editor that makes this VERY simple, however
There is a little bit of lag with certain effects coming in (like the Through Zero Flanger and when changing certain routings on the fly), but the sound still comes through. On the Eventide, the sound would literally cut out as it was loading, and I couldn't deal with that

Overall, the G-Major II is the best buy on the market at the moment, IMO. It's very nicely priced, has great effects and doesn't seem to have quite the reliability problems that the original G-Major did. The G-Force is better in terms of routing, but it's A) more expensive B) is known to suck tone and C) is starting to get a bit dated. The Eventide Eclipse's lag was unbearable for me, and the signal cutting while it was loading presets in a serial loop was the deal breaker. The Axe-Fx Ultra kills them all, but it was way too expensive for me to justify it just for effects. If you need any other info, hit me up.
 
Code001":kccgptd2 said:
I just got the G-Major II, and I've owned both devices you currently have, Dave. I've also owned an Axe-Fx Ultra and Eventide Eclipse, among others.

Pros on the G-Major II:
It's like a combination of both devices you currently have and then some
It's fairly transparent
I got it brand new for $365 shipped
Effects are very good

Cons of the G-Major II:
It's still not quite as transparent as the Intellifex pre-HUSH, but it's very close
Chorus isn't as good as the 8 voice chorus on the Intellifex, but it's definitely usable
Interface is a touch harder to get used to, but that could just be because I've used the Rocktron stuff for ages. There's a PC/Mac editor that makes this VERY simple, however
There is a little bit of lag with certain effects coming in (like the Through Zero Flanger and when changing certain routings on the fly), but the sound still comes through. On the Eventide, the sound would literally cut out as it was loading, and I couldn't deal with that

Overall, the G-Major II is the best buy on the market at the moment, IMO. It's very nicely priced, has great effects and doesn't seem to have quite the reliability problems that the original G-Major did. The G-Force is better in terms of routing, but it's A) more expensive B) is known to suck tone and C) is starting to get a bit dated. The Eventide Eclipse's lag was unbearable for me, and the signal cutting while it was loading presets in a serial loop was the deal breaker. The Axe-Fx Ultra kills them all, but it was way too expensive for me to justify it just for effects. If you need any other info, hit me up.
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Very well said :thumbsup:
 
interesting, my eclipse doesn't drop all the way out, just the effects if spillover isn't running. I run mine serial, too.

I prefer the eventide because of the transparent "eventide sound". for chorus, verb, delay, its my favorite. I didn't think the Axe-FX was as transparent.. it seemed more in your face. Which is fine, but overall it just wasn't for me in comparison. Eventide sounded more musical to me. that eventide sound. ya I'm stuck in the 80's LOL

Have yet to try the 8000 :D
 
What's wrong with the Rocktron stuff? I love the Replifex.

For live use I just have a one space fx unit. Different ones for different rigs.

At home TC2290 and PCM 70 mainly. But I will probably get a H8000 soon. But live if you run parallel it's really hard to tell much difference in a band situation.
 
Hacksaw":3b6w2pdk said:
interesting, my eclipse doesn't drop all the way out, just the effects if spillover isn't running. I run mine serial, too.

I prefer the eventide because of the transparent "eventide sound". for chorus, verb, delay, its my favorite. I didn't think the Axe-FX was as transparent.. it seemed more in your face. Which is fine, but overall it just wasn't for me in comparison. Eventide sounded more musical to me. that eventide sound. ya I'm stuck in the 80's LOL

Have yet to try the 8000 :D
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Could have easily been user error, and that was another issue with the Eclipse. Programming the thing was a PITA. The overall lag time on the Eclipse (I had V4.something) was still greater than the G-Major II.
 
Personally I think TC stuff is junk. Doesn't matter. All sounds like processed shit. yeah I said it! :gethim:
 
Code001":qf5ezyc5 said:
I just got the G-Major II, and I've owned both devices you currently have, Dave. I've also owned an Axe-Fx Ultra and Eventide Eclipse, among others.

Pros on the G-Major II:
It's like a combination of both devices you currently have and then some
It's fairly transparent
I got it brand new for $365 shipped
Effects are very good

Cons of the G-Major II:
It's still not quite as transparent as the Intellifex pre-HUSH, but it's very close
Chorus isn't as good as the 8 voice chorus on the Intellifex, but it's definitely usable
Interface is a touch harder to get used to, but that could just be because I've used the Rocktron stuff for ages. There's a PC/Mac editor that makes this VERY simple, however
There is a little bit of lag with certain effects coming in (like the Through Zero Flanger and when changing certain routings on the fly), but the sound still comes through. On the Eventide, the sound would literally cut out as it was loading, and I couldn't deal with that

Overall, the G-Major II is the best buy on the market at the moment, IMO. It's very nicely priced, has great effects and doesn't seem to have quite the reliability problems that the original G-Major did. The G-Force is better in terms of routing, but it's A) more expensive B) is known to suck tone and C) is starting to get a bit dated. The Eventide Eclipse's lag was unbearable for me, and the signal cutting while it was loading presets in a serial loop was the deal breaker. The Axe-Fx Ultra kills them all, but it was way too expensive for me to justify it just for effects. If you need any other info, hit me up.
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I dont know what g force you have heard, but I have owned 2 of them and played through many different ones and they are the least tone sucking unit out. I am a maniac about my tone and the G force is the most transparent unit I have found.
 
duodecim":7nn808oh said:
If you're happy with your Intellifex and Replifex, why bother?
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this. What kind of "problem" are you having with what you have? I'm still using an alesis quadraverb. For what I do, reverb +/- delay it works great. Sometimes I go crazy and add some chorus. :jerkit: Go ahead laugh :lol: :LOL: . I will use it until it stops working. Yes, it colors the tone. In a good way IMO.
 
I run a w/d/w rig and use a line mixer which lets me add the desired amount of wet or dry signal into it. I dont use a loop and the g force sounds incredible with my rig.
 
parntz145":prqfc1s4 said:
I run a w/d/w rig and use a line mixer which lets me add the desired amount of wet or dry signal into it. I dont use a loop and the g force sounds incredible with my rig.
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I agree that the G-Force is an incredible piece of gear, and running any unit in a W/D/W setup is the best way to get the most out of a processor. For the price, however, I thought the new G-Major II was the better buy. It's all relevant. If you need the extra routing capability of the G-Force, then look into getting that. If you need the most powerful 1u effects processor, get an Eclipse. If you want some of the most versatile effects and modeling, get the Axe-Fx. TC units definitely have a certain "sound" to them, as crwnedblasphemy pointed out in a not so subtle way. :lol: :LOL: An ideal rig would be something like Zachman has, but I don't have the pocketbook he has. I also have a bad back, which means those heavier rigs aren't exactly convenient for me.
 
My experience went like this:

Eclipse, nice - but had issues and didn't do as much as it ought to have at the price. Yes, there was lagging issues, no this wasn't user error, but it could be rememdied by additional adjuncts in the programming (read: pain in the f'n ass). Nice unit, 1U rack size, smooth looking, Eventide.

Eventide Holy Trinity - NOTHING wrong with these pedals. Shit, they're works of art - programmable, upgradeable, completely seamless in DAW interface AND you can step on them. They are 100% THE BEST pedal out there, and I don't give a shit about what anyone esle says. Eventide stomps are the best - period. I see them in more studios across the globe, in more racks of more musicians, and on more boards of more engineers than ANY other pedal out there. They are the best. OF THESE pedals, surprisingly enough, it's the PitchFactor that can do the most - once you learn how to make it do these things. It can do beautiful time delays, gorgeous rich ambient stuff, and wicked pitch based stuff. It's the strongest and most potent out of the three (I'm sorry I have yet to use SPACE). TimeFactor?? Amazing - replicates ALL the greats. ModFactor?? TONNES of good stuff, but just too much good stuff for this ol' guy :D Remember, buying all three of these will run you $1200 retail, not including the SPACE.

Axe-Ultra - did it all in one fell swoop, same price as all 3 Eventides + SPACE.

There ya have it.
V.
 
TC have a problem with their A/D converters and always have had.

Every piece I've ever owned ( and still own ) had failed.

Bought the G Force and it lasted 2 days.
They sent me a G major to use while it was in for repair and it was faulty straight from the box !!
I also use the C300 and it's converters have also failed twice.

Everyone I know who has the G Major2 has also experienced problems.. inc the guy from the Sam Hill band.. his G Major 2 appears to have failed.

I still use the G Major and C300 as I can't afford to upgrade, but if I can ever afford to replace them, I won't go with TC again.
 
Owned the G-Force, 3 G Majors (2 had problems, one was replaced under warranty), Eventide H3000se, G Major II and the AxeFx.

I would not use any TC without a line mixer and running it with KILLDRY....I hate the phase issues when not using a line mixer, sounds like it is stuck in phaser mode...to me anyway.

G Major 1's sounds ok, I had 1 that was great as far as reliabilty, the other 2 sucked. My G MajorII sounds fine but crapped out and lost it for 6 wks for warranty repair...seems to work fine now.

I hate programming the spillover on the GForce, the G Maj's have wicked easy to use easy spillovers.

The Eventide took 3 weeks to change presets and wasn't exactly friendly to program, wound up being a $3000 chorus(pitch detune).

The AxeFx's FX are amazing..period. Lots of money if you are just using delay and reverb.

The old Digitech Studio Quads (V2) sound great and are a steal used for about $75.

I have no problem with the Rocktron stuff :) except for the wallwarts.

Mark
 
Mark Day":2yi1bazh said:
I have no problem with the Rocktron stuff :) except for the wallwarts.
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Who the hell was behind the bright idea to build a 9V AC adaptor with a 2.5mm barrel end?
:gethim:

I might have considered using a different barrel end than used on oh, something like a ba-zillion 9V DC adaptors using the same end.
:lol: :LOL:
 
:D "Meester, may I buy your replifex when you get axed?""
 
wolf5150":99xy2t5l said:
TC have a problem with their A/D converters and always have had.

Every piece I've ever owned ( and still own ) had failed.

Bought the G Force and it lasted 2 days.
They sent me a G major to use while it was in for repair and it was faulty straight from the box !!
I also use the C300 and it's converters have also failed twice.

Everyone I know who has the G Major2 has also experienced problems.. inc the guy from the Sam Hill band.. his G Major 2 appears to have failed.

I still use the G Major and C300 as I can't afford to upgrade, but if I can ever afford to replace them, I won't go with TC again.
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When you say the converters fail what exactly is the symptom? No sound at all? Just curious because I've had my GM2 now for 2 years and gigged/practiced with it hundreds of times with no issues (at least as far as I can tell).
 
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