NAD Mesa/Rhodes Content

[The Hoff]

Dayum!

GAS inducing...so good.

 

[mchn13]

What channel? Settings? Ive got a rhodes modded dual that i love. Been usin orange vintage. Sick amp!


Steve

 

[JCDenton6]

Hey benduncan. I'm new here and am in the market for a new head. The Pittbull and the 2Ch TR/DR are the main 2 on my list. Do you have a preference of one over the other? Which is more crushing in the low mids, cuts through a mix better, and is just plain more pissed off sounding? I currently have an Engl Savage 120. Love the gain but it's way to thin for what I want to do.

The 2 channels triples are tighter meaner and have more low mids, also more overall headroom.

 

[rokket2005]

Hey benduncan. I'm new here and am in the market for a new head. The Pittbull and the 2Ch TR/DR are the main 2 on my list. Do you have a preference of one over the other? Which is more crushing in the low mids, cuts through a mix better, and is just plain more pissed off sounding? I currently have an Engl Savage 120. Love the gain but it's way to thin for what I want to do.

As a fellow dual rec/pittbull owner, I find that I use my rec more often, and generally has a more massive tone than my vht does, though the vht is kind of a singular tone that is unique in it's own right. If you are looking for an amp that blends well with your savage I'd probably go for the rec as recs seem to mix well with most everything. I haven't played a savage, but I have an invader 100 and it mixes with my rec a lot better than it does with my vht.

 

[acalaf]

This is a revision F. However, with the mods, I don't think that really matters too much anymore because the original sound has been altered.

From my experience of having a rev f and a rev g at the same time, the red channel on the rev F sounds different than the rev g, which is the version that made the amp popular. Some people prefer the voicing of the F because the mids sit on a higher frequency than the ones on later versions. Since the mids are closer to a marshall or an SLO, it provides a better gateway for players that are used to higher voiced mids to use and like this amp. Frequently marshall players play a rev g and hate it because the mids are in a frequency that is too different to what they are used. the rev f sounds more familiar to them. As a point of reference, even the red channel on the peavey 5150 has lower voiced mids than the rev f.

The orange channel is the same one both rev f and rev g. I a/b'd back and forth and could not detect any difference between both amp versions.

These are just my observations from comparing all these amp directly. Hope this helps.

 

[benduncan]

Hey benduncan. I'm new here and am in the market for a new head. The Pittbull and the 2Ch TR/DR are the main 2 on my list. Do you have a preference of one over the other? Which is more crushing in the low mids, cuts through a mix better, and is just plain more pissed off sounding? I currently have an Engl Savage 120. Love the gain but it's way to thin for what I want to do.

Welcome!

I agree with most of what's been said in here, so far. I use para EQ's in front and in the loop of both amps and my Mesa has been modded, so I'm not sure how much I can really tell you about what your amp would sound like, should you choose to buy one. I'll do my best to be of some help though

I currently use my Pittbull more, but the Mesa's tubes have been acting up for a while and I haven't been able to replace them yet. I used the Mesa more before that, but it was during the honeymoon phase, so who knows. Honestly, I can't choose between them, they are both very different amps. The VHT is dry and articulate while the Mesa is wet and fat. The VHT can be a bit thin, so I boost a little at 100 and a ton at 250 using the on board GEQ. That will give you lots of low end, to the point of being overloaded and mushy. To tighten it back up, I cut at around 200 with a PEQ in the loop, and that works for me. I'm pretty sure that I couldn't get the Mesa to sound thin if I tried, lol.

Which one sounds more pissed off? That's the easiest question to answer here, the Pittbull for sure. The Mesa probably has more low mids and it definitely has more low end. The VHT probably cuts better, not sure about that though. Your playing style would be a factor to. I would for for sure try using an EQ or something in the loop of your Savage before getting another amp. Find the frequency that it's lacking. I hear that the Savage is more like the VHT rather than the Mesa

 

[benduncan]

What channel? Settings? Ive got a rhodes modded dual that i love. Been usin orange vintage. Sick amp!


Steve

Hey, thanks. This is a really old thread, but if I remember correctly it was:

Master: 9 or 10 o'clock
Presence: 3 o'clock
Bass: full
Mid: full
Treb: full
Gain: 2 o'clock
Channel: Orange
Mode: Vintage
Rectifier: Tube
Power: Bold

 

[benduncan]

This is a revision F. However, with the mods, I don't think that really matters too much anymore because the original sound has been altered.

From my experience of having a rev f and a rev g at the same time, the red channel on the rev F sounds different than the rev g, which is the version that made the amp popular. Some people prefer the voicing of the F because the mids sit on a higher frequency than the ones on later versions. Since the mids are closer to a marshall or an SLO, it provides a better gateway for players that are used to higher voiced mids to use and like this amp. Frequently marshall players play a rev g and hate it because the mids are in a frequency that is too different to what they are used. the rev f sounds more familiar to them. As a point of reference, even the red channel on the peavey 5150 has lower voiced mids than the rev f.

The orange channel is the same one both rev f and rev g. I a/b'd back and forth and could not detect any difference between both amp versions.

These are just my observations from comparing all these amp directly. Hope this helps.

Having owned both(though one modded) I would say that this is spot on

and IT IS ABSOLUTELY A GATEWAY AMP! First you get a rev f, it may seem harmless, but eventually you'll let one of your cooler, older friends pressure you into getting a rev g. Then, before you know it you have dyed black braided hair, an all black wardrobe, black painted fingernails and only play in drop tuning. Somebody think of the children

 

[MississippiMetal]

I just modded a Revision E Triple Recto to early specs with a few tweaks. So much fun to play.

 

[Erock]

I must have missed this the first time, that sounds great man! I'm kinda surprised someone modded an old chromeface Rev F, but I guess you can't argue with the results. Nice demo too. One of the best rectos I ever played was an old chromeface Rev F TRec. That thing still haunts me because I had the chance to buy it years ago, and didn't have the loot.

 

[benduncan]

...I had the chance to buy it years ago, and didn't have the loot.

The same thing almost happened to me but luckily I was able to get a loan from someone It pays to have good credit with people, literally

And thanks!

 

[locoed]

I had a dual rec modded by Kyle and it was the worst mistake selling it.
That said, I'll trade you my Pittbull ultra for your Mesa, if you ever wanna
Get rid of it.

 

[protoplasma]

I just now saw this video -- great work, and sounds killer!!

 

[Intimidator333]

Hey thanks for your replies guys. As far as messing with outboard eq's on my Engl before the amp and in the loop, I've tried that. I've owned the amp for 7 years. It just simply is not giving me what I want. Plus it's unreliable as hell. As far as what tone I'm after that's tough. I guess my holy grail of tone would be Fear Factory Demanufacture. I want something that just crushes. Punches hard in the low mids and is really thick and growly but also tight and clear. I have 2 bands I'm trying to start. One is abstract and drony and low tuned and I just want a thick crushing wall of sound. Like Neurosis, Isis, Cult Of Luna, but I don't want the sludgy sound that those kind of bands have. The other is going to be a really fast pissed off crazy thrash band. Thanks guys. Sorry OP didn't mean to jack your thread.

 

[benduncan]

OP didn't mean to jack your thread.

No! You have given it new life

I think that Dino used a modded jcm800 on that record, and has since used line6, axe fx, ect. Out of the two that I own, the Pittbull would be best for that kind of tone and could do it well(i think), after a lot of tweaking. You'd probably have to boost it though

 

[benduncan]

I just now saw this video -- great work, and sounds killer!!

Thanks Kyle

 

[hopkinWFG]

oh my... that sounds great ! how much for the mods ?

 

[fretout]

Nice score man! I have a Revision D (pre-500) and a Revision G, and after swapping the same exact tubes back and forth, there are some big differences. Maybe someday I'll remember to get some clips up to compare the Rev. D to your Rev. F. I haven't seen too many Triple Rectifiers before Revision G, so that is one rare Triple.

 

[Racerxrated]

That tone on Demanufacture is from a metalhead modded Marshall. You can usually tell one(they are rare) by a "urinal cake" inside the chassis to protect the mods..some type of round epoxy. I almost grabbed one on ebay a few years ago but it was gone pretty fast. He didn't know who modded it but it had that "urinal cake" next to the FX loop jacks..

 

[hopkinWFG]

think the recto metal heads would mostly be fans of cannibal corpse ?

whats different from the original rectos to the roadster and the road king ?