NAD - Soldano SLO-100 landed!

[ElectricVoodoo]

All kidding aside, EVH loved the SLO. Soldano wouldn't give him a free one or 10, so he went to Peavey to clone one. The 5150 was born....and the II, and then the Fender EVH....you get the picture. They're all an attempt at an SLO tone. Of course, they don't get there. There's only one. SLO is all over VHs FUCK album.

I would agree up to the fender EVH being an attempt at a SLO. I dont think that was his idea behind it.

 

[Racerxrated]

Who knows. What we can say for sure is EVH started getting more and more gain out of his amps after trying his first SLO in the late 80s. Culminating in the Stealth..which by all accounts is gain on top of gain lol...

 

[IntenseJim]

Someone needs to invent a delay pedal with a built-in load device so it can go between amp and speaker!

Fryette Power Station

I've thought about trying one with an SLO.

 

[godgrinder]

So who do you guys recommend for getting the loop upgraded. I checked with Dave Friedman and he said he can do it, will just take a long long while. He is 'slammed'. Any recommendations on someone who can do this upgrade without holding onto my amp for 5 or 6 months ??
Great sounding clip btw!

Even better yet, forget the loop altogether and run delay in the line out to another amp for a wet/dry setup. Time-based effects always sound better the farther down the chain they go. I'd put a delay unit between the amp and the speakers/cab if I could. Someone needs to invent a delay pedal with a built-in load device so it can go between amp and speaker!

Yeah dry/wet system with the slave out is the way to go. Just grab a high wattage SS combo to run the wet signal, that'd be way cheaper than modding the loop and yields a clearer wet sound.

Also when you mod the loop position, the sound of the amp changes slightly (because you'd be rearranging the gain stages). That's probably why Soldano never changed it although almost everyone thought the loop sucked. If you are picking up an used one with the loop already modded that'd be cool, but I wouldn't really go spend hundreds to mod a stock one.

 

[Shark Diver]

So who do you guys recommend for getting the loop upgraded. I checked with Dave Friedman and he said he can do it, will just take a long long while. He is 'slammed'. Any recommendations on someone who can do this upgrade without holding onto my amp for 5 or 6 months ??
Great sounding clip btw!

Even better yet, forget the loop altogether and run delay in the line out to another amp for a wet/dry setup. Time-based effects always sound better the farther down the chain they go. I'd put a delay unit between the amp and the speakers/cab if I could. Someone needs to invent a delay pedal with a built-in load device so it can go between amp and speaker!

Yeah dry/wet system with the slave out is the way to go. Just grab a high wattage SS combo to run the wet signal, that'd be way cheaper than modding the loop and yields a clearer wet sound.

Also when you mod the loop position, the sound of the amp changes slightly (because you'd be rearranging the gain stages). That's probably why Soldano never changed it although almost everyone thought the loop sucked. If you are picking up an used one with the loop already modded that'd be cool, but I wouldn't really go spend hundreds to mod a stock one.

Exactly. Why mod the loop when there are other answers without the tone being effected. I use to run W/D/W and used an SLO without a loop. But if I don't want to haul all that I am perfectly fine running the 2290 in the loop. If you want to mod the loop go ahead - but quit saying it sucks. It doesn't suck - it just doesn't work the way you want for your application. Plenty of guys that it is fine for. Plenty of major players who aren't saying the loop sucks. It's just ridiculous to keep saying because it doesn't do what YOU want it must suck. And time based fx don't ALWAYS sound better further down the chain. For what you are after that might hold true, but there are plenty of examples of people doing differently then the conventional opinion and it works out great. Proclaiming absolutes in regards to almost anything, and especially something as creative as music, is just wrong.

 

[FourT6and2]

So who do you guys recommend for getting the loop upgraded. I checked with Dave Friedman and he said he can do it, will just take a long long while. He is 'slammed'. Any recommendations on someone who can do this upgrade without holding onto my amp for 5 or 6 months ??
Great sounding clip btw!

Even better yet, forget the loop altogether and run delay in the line out to another amp for a wet/dry setup. Time-based effects always sound better the farther down the chain they go. I'd put a delay unit between the amp and the speakers/cab if I could. Someone needs to invent a delay pedal with a built-in load device so it can go between amp and speaker!

x
Yeah dry/wet system with the slave out is the way to go. Just grab a high wattage SS combo to run the wet signal, that'd be way cheaper than modding the loop and yields a clearer wet sound.

Also when you mod the loop position, the sound of the amp changes slightly (because you'd be rearranging the gain stages). That's probably why Soldano never changed it although almost everyone thought the loop sucked. If you are picking up an used one with the loop already modded that'd be cool, but I wouldn't really go spend hundreds to mod a stock one.

Exactly. Why mod the loop when there are other answers without the tone being effected. I use to run W/D/W and used an SLO without a loop. But if I don't want to haul all that I am perfectly fine running the 2290 in the loop. If you want to mod the loop go ahead - but quit saying it sucks. It doesn't suck - it just doesn't work the way you want for your application. Plenty of guys that it is fine for. Plenty of major players who aren't saying the loop sucks. It's just ridiculous to keep saying because it doesn't do what YOU want it must suck. And time based fx don't ALWAYS sound better further down the chain. For what you are after that might hold true, but there are plenty of examples of people doing differently then the conventional opinion and it works out great. Proclaiming absolutes in regards to almost anything, and especially something as creative as music, is just wrong.

Dude. 30 years. This amp has been out 30 years. Mike Soldano said in an interview he thinks the loop sucks. Why don't you write him an angry letter instead of arguing about it on a forum. Give him a call and ask him, If he had it his way, he wouldn't even put a loop in any of his amps (he doesn't like them in general). But he's not gonna change the SLO because people would get their panties in a wad.

 

[Shark Diver]

So who do you guys recommend for getting the loop upgraded. I checked with Dave Friedman and he said he can do it, will just take a long long while. He is 'slammed'. Any recommendations on someone who can do this upgrade without holding onto my amp for 5 or 6 months ??
Great sounding clip btw!

Even better yet, forget the loop altogether and run delay in the line out to another amp for a wet/dry setup. Time-based effects always sound better the farther down the chain they go. I'd put a delay unit between the amp and the speakers/cab if I could. Someone needs to invent a delay pedal with a built-in load device so it can go between amp and speaker!

x
Yeah dry/wet system with the slave out is the way to go. Just grab a high wattage SS combo to run the wet signal, that'd be way cheaper than modding the loop and yields a clearer wet sound.

Also when you mod the loop position, the sound of the amp changes slightly (because you'd be rearranging the gain stages). That's probably why Soldano never changed it although almost everyone thought the loop sucked. If you are picking up an used one with the loop already modded that'd be cool, but I wouldn't really go spend hundreds to mod a stock one.

Exactly. Why mod the loop when there are other answers without the tone being effected. I use to run W/D/W and used an SLO without a loop. But if I don't want to haul all that I am perfectly fine running the 2290 in the loop. If you want to mod the loop go ahead - but quit saying it sucks. It doesn't suck - it just doesn't work the way you want for your application. Plenty of guys that it is fine for. Plenty of major players who aren't saying the loop sucks. It's just ridiculous to keep saying because it doesn't do what YOU want it must suck. And time based fx don't ALWAYS sound better further down the chain. For what you are after that might hold true, but there are plenty of examples of people doing differently then the conventional opinion and it works out great. Proclaiming absolutes in regards to almost anything, and especially something as creative as music, is just wrong.

Dude. 30 years. This amp has been out 30 years. Mike Soldano said in an interview he thinks the loop sucks. Why don't you write him an angry letter instead of arguing about it on a forum. Give him a call and ask him, If he had it his way, he wouldn't even put a loop in any of his amps (he doesn't like them in general). But he's not gonna change the SLO because people would get their panties in a wad.

I've had dinner with him. Heard him talk about it. Asked him about it. He made it to accommodate rack gear in the late '80s. If he says it sucks now then he caved to public panties in a wad pressure And yes 3 of the 4 SLOs I have do not have a loop. So he doesn't think of it as OEM. But since I spoke to him directly, in person, it isn't an argument, it's a fact. If he has since re-evaluated then so be it - it still works for me, and if I'm the only person alive who doesn't think it sucks then so be it. I didn't say it was the Holy Grail, but I find it works great in the right equipment - so suck is a little harsh. Peace out as they say .

 

[FourT6and2]

So who do you guys recommend for getting the loop upgraded. I checked with Dave Friedman and he said he can do it, will just take a long long while. He is 'slammed'. Any recommendations on someone who can do this upgrade without holding onto my amp for 5 or 6 months ??
Great sounding clip btw!

Even better yet, forget the loop altogether and run delay in the line out to another amp for a wet/dry setup. Time-based effects always sound better the farther down the chain they go. I'd put a delay unit between the amp and the speakers/cab if I could. Someone needs to invent a delay pedal with a built-in load device so it can go between amp and speaker!

x
Yeah dry/wet system with the slave out is the way to go. Just grab a high wattage SS combo to run the wet signal, that'd be way cheaper than modding the loop and yields a clearer wet sound.

Also when you mod the loop position, the sound of the amp changes slightly (because you'd be rearranging the gain stages). That's probably why Soldano never changed it although almost everyone thought the loop sucked. If you are picking up an used one with the loop already modded that'd be cool, but I wouldn't really go spend hundreds to mod a stock one.

Exactly. Why mod the loop when there are other answers without the tone being effected. I use to run W/D/W and used an SLO without a loop. But if I don't want to haul all that I am perfectly fine running the 2290 in the loop. If you want to mod the loop go ahead - but quit saying it sucks. It doesn't suck - it just doesn't work the way you want for your application. Plenty of guys that it is fine for. Plenty of major players who aren't saying the loop sucks. It's just ridiculous to keep saying because it doesn't do what YOU want it must suck. And time based fx don't ALWAYS sound better further down the chain. For what you are after that might hold true, but there are plenty of examples of people doing differently then the conventional opinion and it works out great. Proclaiming absolutes in regards to almost anything, and especially something as creative as music, is just wrong.

Dude. 30 years. This amp has been out 30 years. Mike Soldano said in an interview he thinks the loop sucks. Why don't you write him an angry letter instead of arguing about it on a forum. Give him a call and ask him, If he had it his way, he wouldn't even put a loop in any of his amps (he doesn't like them in general). But he's not gonna change the SLO because people would get their panties in a wad.

I've had dinner with him. Heard him talk about it. Asked him about it. He made it to accommodate rack gear in the late '80s. If he says it sucks now then he caved to public panties in a wad pressure And yes 3 of the 4 SLOs I have do not have a loop. So he doesn't think of it as OEM. But since I spoke to him directly, in person, it isn't an argument, it's a fact. If he has since re-evaluated then so be it - it still works for me, and if I'm the only person alive who doesn't think it sucks then so be it. I didn't say it was the Holy Grail, but I find it works great in the right equipment - so suck is a little harsh. Peace out as they say .

A lot changes in 30 years.

 

[Shark Diver]

So who do you guys recommend for getting the loop upgraded. I checked with Dave Friedman and he said he can do it, will just take a long long while. He is 'slammed'. Any recommendations on someone who can do this upgrade without holding onto my amp for 5 or 6 months ??
Great sounding clip btw!

Even better yet, forget the loop altogether and run delay in the line out to another amp for a wet/dry setup. Time-based effects always sound better the farther down the chain they go. I'd put a delay unit between the amp and the speakers/cab if I could. Someone needs to invent a delay pedal with a built-in load device so it can go between amp and speaker!

x
Yeah dry/wet system with the slave out is the way to go. Just grab a high wattage SS combo to run the wet signal, that'd be way cheaper than modding the loop and yields a clearer wet sound.

Also when you mod the loop position, the sound of the amp changes slightly (because you'd be rearranging the gain stages). That's probably why Soldano never changed it although almost everyone thought the loop sucked. If you are picking up an used one with the loop already modded that'd be cool, but I wouldn't really go spend hundreds to mod a stock one.

Exactly. Why mod the loop when there are other answers without the tone being effected. I use to run W/D/W and used an SLO without a loop. But if I don't want to haul all that I am perfectly fine running the 2290 in the loop. If you want to mod the loop go ahead - but quit saying it sucks. It doesn't suck - it just doesn't work the way you want for your application. Plenty of guys that it is fine for. Plenty of major players who aren't saying the loop sucks. It's just ridiculous to keep saying because it doesn't do what YOU want it must suck. And time based fx don't ALWAYS sound better further down the chain. For what you are after that might hold true, but there are plenty of examples of people doing differently then the conventional opinion and it works out great. Proclaiming absolutes in regards to almost anything, and especially something as creative as music, is just wrong.

Dude. 30 years. This amp has been out 30 years. Mike Soldano said in an interview he thinks the loop sucks. Why don't you write him an angry letter instead of arguing about it on a forum. Give him a call and ask him, If he had it his way, he wouldn't even put a loop in any of his amps (he doesn't like them in general). But he's not gonna change the SLO because people would get their panties in a wad.

I've had dinner with him. Heard him talk about it. Asked him about it. He made it to accommodate rack gear in the late '80s. If he says it sucks now then he caved to public panties in a wad pressure And yes 3 of the 4 SLOs I have do not have a loop. So he doesn't think of it as OEM. But since I spoke to him directly, in person, it isn't an argument, it's a fact. If he has since re-evaluated then so be it - it still works for me, and if I'm the only person alive who doesn't think it sucks then so be it. I didn't say it was the Holy Grail, but I find it works great in the right equipment - so suck is a little harsh. Peace out as they say .

A lot changes in 30 years.

True. And I wouldn't use that loop the way I run things today - it does suck for that,

 

[Rick Lee]

I run a HOF Mini in the loop in my SLO and the rest of my pedals out front. Works perfectly. I regularly use my Boss DD-3 out front and sounds awesome. I think I ran the pedalboard in the loop once long ago and it sucked. But the current setup works just fine.

Oh, and this amp is a whole different ball of wax when the OD volume gets to 6 or 7. Whole different amp. You will feel unworthy.

 

[Racerxrated]

The SLO is such a killer amp that I just ran it dry without delay. I didn't care. If I really needed effects I'd have the sound guy run some delay/verb and give me a monitor next to my rig. Or run wet/dry. Really, the best way to hear unaltering effects loops is to not use them and run wet/dry. After hearing my amps line out to a nice Poweramp with effects, its so much better than any amps loop that I've heard. Hard to go back to a regular loop. Lots of stuff to lug though.

 

[reverymike]

I never really had a problem with the loop. I've only ever put either a roland sde3000 or a chandler echo in it, and it worked and sounded great each time.

I think it might sound bad with pedals or other effects, but like Shark said, it was designed for the rack gear of the 80s like Lexicon PCM70, 41, 42, TC 2290, Sde3000s, etc.

 

[godgrinder]

A lot changes in 30 years.

True. And I wouldn't use that loop the way I run things today - it does suck for that,

Didn't Soldano say that he prefers the SLO without a loop at all?

 

[guitarplayerone]

Any chance of another clip with the poweramps cooking?