New Judas Priest 2014

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I love old Priest, but when Painkiller arrived my mind was blown. It was so much better than anything else out there, including Rust in Peace. I also admired the changes they made- hardly anybody strives to evolve once established. I hope the rest of this release has some more energy
 
crankyrayhanky":2gclu2kl said:
I love old Priest, but when Painkiller arrived my mind was blown. It was so much better than anything else out there, including Rust in Peace. I also admired the changes they made- hardly anybody strives to evolve once established. I hope the rest of this release has some more energy
I agree 100 percent!! :rock:
That CD just brings it! Listened to it the other week and am still blown away. Great guitars....vocals....DRUMS were off the hook. :thumbsup:
 
I love Priest ,Screaming defenders all ahead of their time and huge anthem

This to me was just meh .Angel of Retribution was much better.

This too me seems like a tired band going through the motions . They are not innovators any more

and this recording is awful flat and washed out ,.,No bite to the guitars .No high cut to Rob's voice

love 80s Priest .this not so much
 
crankyrayhanky":o8hbxohz said:
I love old Priest, but when Painkiller arrived my mind was blown. It was so much better than anything else out there, including Rust in Peace. I also admired the changes they made- hardly anybody strives to evolve once established. I hope the rest of this release has some more energy

You smokin crack cranky?? lol... rust in peace is monumental! That said, Painkiller was bitchin. Parts of it seemed really simple and almost childish compared to older Priest but at the same time it killed and I loved Glenn's playing.

I'm not sure what people are talking about when they talk about going back to "real amps"? This sounds a lot like the Ram it down/ Painkiller era, what were they rocking back then and now? Just sounds like a shit ton of chorus to me.
 
I love RIP- I was a huge Marty fan from Shrapnel and a big Megadeth fan from the earlier discs- I was totally stoked to hear this release. But when they both came out, I grabbed them the same day-Painkiller hardly left the player for months. It doesn't help that on the tour it was Testament, Megadeth, Judas Priest. Just on pure sound quality, Testament sounded like white noise, Megadeth was only slightly better, but JP put on a huge and clear sonic & visual performance. I know that's the strategy of engineers, but Priest probably put on the best show I ever saw that night. :yes:
 
Defenders of the faith = Jcm 800's a real amplifier... painkiller and that thrashy crap they started doing = a jmp 1 preamp or rocktron preamp into a separate power amp. Sorry, a rack preamp does not sound like a conventional amp IMO.
 
crankyrayhanky":2jmgerbv said:
I love RIP- I was a huge Marty fan from Shrapnel and a big Megadeth fan from the earlier discs- I was totally stoked to hear this release. But when they both came out, I grabbed them the same day-Painkiller hardly left the player for months. It doesn't help that on the tour it was Testament, Megadeth, Judas Priest. Just on pure sound quality, Testament sounded like white noise, Megadeth was only slightly better, but JP put on a huge and clear sonic & visual performance. I know that's the strategy of engineers, but Priest probably put on the best show I ever saw that night. :yes:

I saw a tour like that in Boston called Operation Rock n Roll. Alice in Chains and Motorhead opened up. But I think Alice Cooper was on it as well. It was at whatever the big open amphitheater is there. Around 1991. Unfortunately Priest sounded awful and it was my first time seeing them having just come from Australia. It was a major bummer. Motorhead had a crappie 25 minute set slot during the afternoon and destroyed everybody. That was when they still had Wurzel.
 
Business":27anib9j said:
The vocals aren't bad, typical Halford
The rhythm section is repetitive, sounds like a lazy version of Hell Patrol, at least the drums/bass were recorded correctly
The chorus sucks IMO, sounds too much like power metal
The post-chorus section is the best part guitar-wise
Who recorded the guitar tracks? They sound horrible. They went for their chorus-metallic sound of the 80s, but it's very poorly recorded. Not heavy at all, doesn't sit well in the mix
The first solo was almost nonexistent
The second solo, probably by Faulkner, sounds like a poor man's Dave Murray and doesn't fit the mix at all.

Overall pretty lazy effort, could have been much better with just a bit more involvement

Hey, when you release your seventeenth studio album on a major label be sure to post it here for a full review.
 
BrokenFusion":29jesf7b said:
Business":29jesf7b said:
The vocals aren't bad, typical Halford
The rhythm section is repetitive, sounds like a lazy version of Hell Patrol, at least the drums/bass were recorded correctly
The chorus sucks IMO, sounds too much like power metal
The post-chorus section is the best part guitar-wise
Who recorded the guitar tracks? They sound horrible. They went for their chorus-metallic sound of the 80s, but it's very poorly recorded. Not heavy at all, doesn't sit well in the mix
The first solo was almost nonexistent
The second solo, probably by Faulkner, sounds like a poor man's Dave Murray and doesn't fit the mix at all.

Overall pretty lazy effort, could have been much better with just a bit more involvement

Hey, when you release your seventeenth studio album on a major label be sure to post it here for a full review.

BRB, sending that memo to every music critic in the world

_facepalm.png
 
lespaul6":1oxttcuw said:
Defenders of the faith = Jcm 800's a real amplifier... painkiller and that thrashy crap they started doing = a jmp 1 preamp or rocktron preamp into a separate power amp. Sorry, a rack preamp does not sound like a conventional amp IMO.

This, they sounded huge going though jm800s with passive pickups. I like Painkiller, but much prefere their organic, earlier sound. I think Priest peaked on Defenders, & when it didn't sell like Screaming, they released Turbo, still a great cd, but I didn't like their new direction(pop). I just won't buy that they're too old to bring it, I can understand Halford losing some of his voice, but there's no excuse for crappy guitar playing, such a shame to see Tipton phoning it in. 66 ain't old in my book"
 
Business":3vk3s9x3 said:
BrokenFusion":3vk3s9x3 said:
Business":3vk3s9x3 said:
The vocals aren't bad, typical Halford
The rhythm section is repetitive, sounds like a lazy version of Hell Patrol, at least the drums/bass were recorded correctly
The chorus sucks IMO, sounds too much like power metal
The post-chorus section is the best part guitar-wise
Who recorded the guitar tracks? They sound horrible. They went for their chorus-metallic sound of the 80s, but it's very poorly recorded. Not heavy at all, doesn't sit well in the mix
The first solo was almost nonexistent
The second solo, probably by Faulkner, sounds like a poor man's Dave Murray and doesn't fit the mix at all.

Overall pretty lazy effort, could have been much better with just a bit more involvement

Hey, when you release your seventeenth studio album on a major label be sure to post it here for a full review.

BRB, sending that memo to every music critic in the world

_facepalm.png
:lol: :LOL:
 
skoora":2b4t8bjh said:
crankyrayhanky":2b4t8bjh said:
I love RIP- I was a huge Marty fan from Shrapnel and a big Megadeth fan from the earlier discs- I was totally stoked to hear this release. But when they both came out, I grabbed them the same day-Painkiller hardly left the player for months. It doesn't help that on the tour it was Testament, Megadeth, Judas Priest. Just on pure sound quality, Testament sounded like white noise, Megadeth was only slightly better, but JP put on a huge and clear sonic & visual performance. I know that's the strategy of engineers, but Priest probably put on the best show I ever saw that night. :yes:

I saw a tour like that in Boston called Operation Rock n Roll. Alice in Chains and Motorhead opened up. But I think Alice Cooper was on it as well. It was at whatever the big open amphitheater is there. Around 1991. Unfortunately Priest sounded awful and it was my first time seeing them having just come from Australia. It was a major bummer. M otorhead had a crappie 25 minute set slot during the afternoon and destroyed everybody. That was when they still had Wurzel.
I saw that tour as well, though I didn't have to travel around the world to get to the venue. If I recall, Metal Church was supposed to be there but cancelled? It was a decent show but I would have much rather seen them on Defenders. I liked Painkiller, though I will definitely agree the tones were much better in earlier times. Not really sure who convinced them to go the tonal route they ended up going. Their discography really only has a few minor blemishes (Ripper era and Nostradaumus). I liked some of Turbo actually :lol: :LOL: It's cool they are still at it but at the same time; I probably won't be getting this cd.
 
lespaul6":19oautqg said:
Defenders of the faith = Jcm 800's a real amplifier... painkiller and that thrashy crap they started doing = a jmp 1 preamp or rocktron preamp into a separate power amp. Sorry, a rack preamp does not sound like a conventional amp IMO.

You just listed two tube preamps into what i assume were tube poweramps.... what you are saying is that you like their tone with jcm800's over their tone with higher gain preamps.... you like the design of the preamp and output stages of an 800 and not the separate preamp and power amp. Has nothing to do with it not being a "conventional" sound does it? Might just be splitting hairs. Maiden uses the JMP-1's today don't they? I think they run them into the power section of a DSL though. Or is that Phil Collen of Def Lep...
 
Dingleberries":3l0huzek said:
lespaul6":3l0huzek said:
Defenders of the faith = Jcm 800's a real amplifier... painkiller and that thrashy crap they started doing = a jmp 1 preamp or rocktron preamp into a separate power amp. Sorry, a rack preamp does not sound like a conventional amp IMO.

This, they sounded huge going though jm800s with passive pickups. I like Painkiller, but much prefere their organic, earlier sound. I think Priest peaked on Defenders, & when it didn't sell like Screaming, they released Turbo, still a great cd, but I didn't like their new direction(pop). I just won't buy that they're too old to bring it, I can understand Halford losing some of his voice, but there's no excuse for crappy guitar playing, such a shame to see Tipton phoning it in. 66 ain't old in my book"
I agree with this, except for your comment on the preamp/power amp vs complete amp. Plug a Mesa/Boogie Quad preamp into a Peavey 50/50 Classic, and tell me that isn't some of the best sounding raw gain tone you've ever heard. As far as JP is concerned, I stopped listening to them after POE.

Actually, the more I listen to ROS, the more I like it. Can't wait to hear more of the album. Richie Faulkner's live work with JP is amazing! Rob doesn't have the range he once had, but at least he can sing. If I hear another 'cookie monster' vocalist, I'm filing a formal protest with Keebler.

Here's a personal favorite of mine. We played this at a country bar, and the crowd loved it!

 
Old Priest has some killer straight up rock tunes. Even Rocka Rolla, I dig the chorus. My brother called his first boat Rocka Rolla and painted it coca cola red. Priest was iconic.
 
Kapo_Polenton":2z2d1xez said:
Old Priest has some killer straight up rock tunes. Even Rocka Rolla, I dig the chorus. My brother called his first boat Rocka Rolla and painted it coca cola red. Priest was iconic.

So iconic that, as early as 1984, they already had at least 2 big influences on This Is Spinal Tap
Let's see if everybody knows which ones I'm talking about
 
zewango":1pmuecyp said:
It's Judas Priest. Sounds like Judas Priest. I like Judas Priest.
This. It might help that I have no expectations of EVER getting "Defenders Pt. II" ...
 
Kapo_Polenton":17avnimf said:
Old Priest has some killer straight up rock tunes. Even Rocka Rolla, I dig the chorus. My brother called his first boat Rocka Rolla and painted it coca cola red. Priest was iconic.

People from the 70s who like Rocka Rolla might think Screaming for Vengence is to abrasive:
 
I have been a huge Preist fan since British Steel. This track is meh!!!
 
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