New Tool

[Racerxrated]

Ever feel like “damned if you do, damned if you don’t”? This feels like one of those moments. To me, it’s Tool how they’ve always been..couple forceful tunes and the rest not so much. Compare Tool to Metallica, when they came out with Load it got destroyed by many who thought they totally got away from who they are. This Tool album isn’t that different from 10000 days in many ways, yet some want them to change or evolve into something different. Can’t have everything I guess.

 

[espquade]

It's Tool on Decaf .... Like somebody took away their espresso and now their drinking decaf green tea...

 

[CEG85]

lol @ Danny playing guitar.

I'm a huge Tool fan. I actually went into this album expecting to be disappointed after listening, a handful of times, to the one or two of the songs released already. They sound good, but I was like meh... 10K Days V2. Totally forgot about the album release today until a friend posted a photo of her limited edition CD on FB this morning. So I stopped by Target and grabbed one. Listened to a few tracks in my Uber on the way home and I was impressed by how great the production sounded...

At home listening now on some headphones. And wow... the album is in a word: Gorgeous.

The production is jaw dropping. Just incredible. I've not heard an album with sound quality like this before. You can hear EVERYTHING. Like you're there in the room with the band, surrounded by the music. And this is just regular MP3 quality (you get a free download with the album) on my Macbook. Just godly production quality here.

The music is great. Not as angry and aggressive as their past stuff, but it fits the theme of the album and of the band growing older. The song "Invincible" is a perfect allegory for the band at this phase of their careers and of their lives I guess. The music is powerful and grooves in typical Tool fashion.

Also I love that there's an actual drum solo track where Danny grooves along to a synth riff. Pretty rad.

Agree 100%, well said.
I'm not a big fan of this album, But the sound they get on this record is one of the best ive heard from Tool.
You can tell they really took they're time to dial that in.

 

[Beyond Black]

Personally I feel like they took all of their previous efforts and mashed them up and released the product as this new album. Thought many times listening to it “I’ve heard this riff before”. Yes, it sounds like Tool, but 13 years for something I couldn’t make it through without falling asleep is disappointing. $50 or whatever it was for the CD just made it worse. I feel like the angst is gone and with it went the inspiration. 26 year fan here just stating my opinion, not meant to bash or start an argument but 10,000 days was a perfect ending chapter.

Couldn't have said it better. They're just going through the motions, but it doesn't mean anything anymore. It's like they have become their own simulation. The real thing is long gone.
I don't blame them for having running out of new ideas. Who doesn't? I blame them for not calling it a day.
The last Zeppelin albums had new things to offer. Tool does not.

Nah, you just come across as having hate in your heart and jumping on the Tool bashing bandwagon because it's trendy right now. Your claim doesn't hold water. Just because your expectations weren't meant, doesn't mean they missed they missed the mark. I don't want another angst-ridden 90s album. I'm past that. But apparently a lot of others aren't and are still living in the past and unable to embrace the future.

I do not hate them. I even feel a bit sad about it.
I was a huge fan for many years and saw them live 3 months ago. It was a great concert, but the new songs also sucked live. You can ask my wife.
This experience also proves once and for all that music is not about amps and gear. In the end only the music counts.

It's just weak songwriting - like painting by numbers. It's not my fault. I just cannot lie. Tool certainly appreciates my sincerity.
They probably also feel that it is lame and laboured in comparison to the stuff they've done.
I am real fan of their music, just not of the music they're making now. I am not a blind follower that accepts anything only because it says TOOL. Everybody is fallible, even the big heros.

Think for yourself
Question authority



Saw the Pumkpins as well. Good performance but weak new songs.
Chris Cornell, in contrast, made a quite good last album before he died.

So let’s get this straight, people who dig the new album are “blind followers” who don’t think for themselves or question authority, simply because they disagree with your expert analysis, or possibly hear something that you don’t? Ok, got it...Dude, get the fuck over yourself...

 

[jsp]

It seems like some people expected a group of guys in their 50's to be as aggressive as they were 25 years ago but in some groundbreakingly new way There's nothing "rehashed" here, that's their sound, and it's executed perfectly. The songwriting is exceptional, though not everyone is going to have the attention span for it. With all the anticipation I was prepared to be disappointed, but the album is an absolute masterpiece.

 

[rottingcorpse]

I wasn't going to weigh in on this, but fuck it, lets do this....

I am a tool.

Fixed. Because it made me laugh.

 

[Vin Diezel]

Personally I feel like they took all of their previous efforts and mashed them up and released the product as this new album. Thought many times listening to it “I’ve heard this riff before”. Yes, it sounds like Tool, but 13 years for something I couldn’t make it through without falling asleep is disappointing. $50 or whatever it was for the CD just made it worse. I feel like the angst is gone and with it went the inspiration. 26 year fan here just stating my opinion, not meant to bash or start an argument but 10,000 days was a perfect ending chapter.

Couldn't have said it better. They're just going through the motions, but it doesn't mean anything anymore. It's like they have become their own simulation. The real thing is long gone.
I don't blame them for having running out of new ideas. Who doesn't? I blame them for not calling it a day.
The last Zeppelin albums had new things to offer. Tool does not.

Nah, you just come across as having hate in your heart and jumping on the Tool bashing bandwagon because it's trendy right now. Your claim doesn't hold water. Just because your expectations weren't meant, doesn't mean they missed they missed the mark. I don't want another angst-ridden 90s album. I'm past that. But apparently a lot of others aren't and are still living in the past and unable to embrace the future.

I do not hate them. I even feel a bit sad about it.
I was a huge fan for many years and saw them live 3 months ago. It was a great concert, but the new songs also sucked live. You can ask my wife.
This experience also proves once and for all that music is not about amps and gear. In the end only the music counts.

It's just weak songwriting - like painting by numbers. It's not my fault. I just cannot lie. Tool certainly appreciates my sincerity.
They probably also feel that it is lame and laboured in comparison to the stuff they've done.
I am real fan of their music, just not of the music they're making now. I am not a blind follower that accepts anything only because it says TOOL. Everybody is fallible, even the big heros.

Think for yourself
Question authority



Saw the Pumkpins as well. Good performance but weak new songs.
Chris Cornell, in contrast, made a quite good last album before he died.

So let’s get this straight, people who dig the new album are “blind followers” who don’t think for themselves or question authority, simply because they disagree with your expert analysis, or possibly hear something that you don’t? Ok, got it...Dude, get the fuck over yourself...

If you could read at primary school level, you would have realized that I did not state that "people who dig the new album are “blind followers” who don’t think for themselves or question authority".
Don't you even know that TOOL themselves used this Timothy Leary quote, you tool? Do I really have to explain jokes to you?
It's really getting tedious. Tomorrow is harvest day...

 

[Juggernaut]

I wasn't going to weigh in on this, but fuck it, lets do this....

I am a tool.

Fixed. Because it made me laugh.

and don't you forget it

 

[D-Rock]

Personally I feel like they took all of their previous efforts and mashed them up and released the product as this new album. Thought many times listening to it “I’ve heard this riff before”. Yes, it sounds like Tool, but 13 years for something I couldn’t make it through without falling asleep is disappointing. $50 or whatever it was for the CD just made it worse. I feel like the angst is gone and with it went the inspiration. 26 year fan here just stating my opinion, not meant to bash or start an argument but 10,000 days was a perfect ending chapter.

Couldn't have said it better. They're just going through the motions, but it doesn't mean anything anymore. It's like they have become their own simulation. The real thing is long gone.
I don't blame them for having running out of new ideas. Who doesn't? I blame them for not calling it a day.
The last Zeppelin albums had new things to offer. Tool does not.

Nah, you just come across as having hate in your heart and jumping on the Tool bashing bandwagon because it's trendy right now. Your claim doesn't hold water. Just because your expectations weren't meant, doesn't mean they missed they missed the mark. I don't want another angst-ridden 90s album. I'm past that. But apparently a lot of others aren't and are still living in the past and unable to embrace the future.

I do not hate them. I even feel a bit sad about it.
I was a huge fan for many years and saw them live 3 months ago. It was a great concert, but the new songs also sucked live. You can ask my wife.
This experience also proves once and for all that music is not about amps and gear. In the end only the music counts.

It's just weak songwriting - like painting by numbers. It's not my fault. I just cannot lie. Tool certainly appreciates my sincerity.
They probably also feel that it is lame and laboured in comparison to the stuff they've done.
I am real fan of their music, just not of the music they're making now. I am not a blind follower that accepts anything only because it says TOOL. Everybody is fallible, even the big heros.

Think for yourself
Question authority



Saw the Pumkpins as well. Good performance but weak new songs.
Chris Cornell, in contrast, made a quite good last album before he died.

So let’s get this straight, people who dig the new album are “blind followers” who don’t think for themselves or question authority, simply because they disagree with your expert analysis, or possibly hear something that you don’t? Ok, got it...Dude, get the fuck over yourself...

If you could read at primary school level, you would have realized that I did not state that "people who dig the new album are “blind followers” who don’t think for themselves or question authority".
Don't you even know that TOOL themselves used this Timothy Leary quote, you tool? Do I really have to explain jokes to you?
It's really getting tedious. Tomorrow is harvest day...

 

[technomancer]

Comedy: the guy complaining about something being tedious and repetitive posting the same thing 10 times in a thread...

Anyways, not a huge Tool fan but I didn't dislike what I've heard so far so I'll be giving it a listen this afternoon.

 

[Beyond Black]

Personally I feel like they took all of their previous efforts and mashed them up and released the product as this new album. Thought many times listening to it “I’ve heard this riff before”. Yes, it sounds like Tool, but 13 years for something I couldn’t make it through without falling asleep is disappointing. $50 or whatever it was for the CD just made it worse. I feel like the angst is gone and with it went the inspiration. 26 year fan here just stating my opinion, not meant to bash or start an argument but 10,000 days was a perfect ending chapter.

Couldn't have said it better. They're just going through the motions, but it doesn't mean anything anymore. It's like they have become their own simulation. The real thing is long gone.
I don't blame them for having running out of new ideas. Who doesn't? I blame them for not calling it a day.
The last Zeppelin albums had new things to offer. Tool does not.

Nah, you just come across as having hate in your heart and jumping on the Tool bashing bandwagon because it's trendy right now. Your claim doesn't hold water. Just because your expectations weren't meant, doesn't mean they missed they missed the mark. I don't want another angst-ridden 90s album. I'm past that. But apparently a lot of others aren't and are still living in the past and unable to embrace the future.

I do not hate them. I even feel a bit sad about it.
I was a huge fan for many years and saw them live 3 months ago. It was a great concert, but the new songs also sucked live. You can ask my wife.
This experience also proves once and for all that music is not about amps and gear. In the end only the music counts.

It's just weak songwriting - like painting by numbers. It's not my fault. I just cannot lie. Tool certainly appreciates my sincerity.
They probably also feel that it is lame and laboured in comparison to the stuff they've done.
I am real fan of their music, just not of the music they're making now. I am not a blind follower that accepts anything only because it says TOOL. Everybody is fallible, even the big heros.

Think for yourself
Question authority



Saw the Pumkpins as well. Good performance but weak new songs.
Chris Cornell, in contrast, made a quite good last album before he died.

So let’s get this straight, people who dig the new album are “blind followers” who don’t think for themselves or question authority, simply because they disagree with your expert analysis, or possibly hear something that you don’t? Ok, got it...Dude, get the fuck over yourself...

If you could read at primary school level, you would have realized that I did not state that "people who dig the new album are “blind followers” who don’t think for themselves or question authority".
Don't you even know that TOOL themselves used this Timothy Leary quote, you tool? Do I really have to explain jokes to you?
It's really getting tedious. Tomorrow is harvest day...

Yeah, I got the quote. And I also got it's meaning and what you were insinuating by using it. It really wasn't as clever as you think. So again, get the fuck over yourself....

 

[Beyond Black]

Comedy: the guy complaining about something being tedious and repetitive posting the same thing 10 times in a thread...

No doubt! Talk about a broken fucking record. You don't like the new Tool, WE GET IT!!!

 

[311boogieman]

You can tell they really took they're time to dial that in.

That's an understatement



This thread is as polarizing as the band itself.

 

[jlb32]

I've always liked A Perfect Circle better than Tool but I am personally loving this new Tool album.

I've liked previous Tool albums ok but not as much as A Perfect Circle. IMO this one sounds like Tool but with a twist that they have never done. Great riffs, great production, etc... I like it!! Haters can hate. Everyone likes what they like.

 

[Pulsonic]

Supergroup sans badge, in stack fotos
funny on the plymouth badge. is that some dino randall ?

You talk weird.

haha alcohol/late night does that. what i was trying to say, in the Joe Baresi IG photos linked by Diezel123, in the photo w/ the stack of heads, it looks like a Laney Supergroup 100 without the badging (below the old Dual Rec)..one of my fav heads, still looking for one.

the Plymouth reference is that FURY amp gif/photo. that Fury badge is from an old 60's (Chrysler) Plymouth sedan. when you play the gif, you can see Randall just below the power light - so what model ? looks ancient (dino-saur).

 

[jemplayer]

Its lateralus 2. Take that how you will...

It's no Anemia, but that was a career zenith for them I think.

Its growing on me and there are some great moments for sure.

It does have some of the best production I've ever heard period. Wish they could go back and remix Anemia in this detail.

 

[FourT6and2]

It does have some of the best production I've ever heard period. Wish they could go back and remix Anemia in this detail.

Yes. I would pay a lot of money for a true remaster of Aenima and Undertow with whatever studio magic was done on this record. I can't stop listening to it because of the production and now the songs have grown on me lol

 

[Vin Diezel]

It does have some of the best production I've ever heard period. Wish they could go back and remix Anemia in this detail.

Yes. I would pay a lot of money for a true remaster of Aenima and Undertow with whatever studio magic was done on this record. I can't stop listening to it because of the production and now the songs have grown on me lol

I think Aenima sounds a lot better than their latest records. It's darker and not as crystal-clear - much more ineresting to listen to.
I highly doubt that a perfectly clear, sterile mix would help the music on Aenima. It takes away the mystery and atmosphere.

 

[stephen sawall]

"I was really blown away by the Rivera stuff; those amps sound so amazing and the guys at Rivera are so helpful. I'm kind of scratching my head about moving over to Rivera because I was so impressed with their stuff"

From the Guitar World interview. The Knucklehead Tre and Knucklehead Reverb was used. Sounds like there might be a change from Diezel to Rivera in his main rig.

The other amps used for the heavy sounds was a Ubershall and his modified Diezel VH4 and Marshall Super Bass. A SoloDallas and MXR Micro Amp Plus was used to drive the amps.

For cleans Orange, Peavey, Fryette / Sound City, Kustom and Naylor amps were used.

 

[japetus]

Smart way to weed out the disloyal and disillusioned listeners though. Don't let the door hit you on the way out!

You make being a fan of Tool sound like a cult, and I don't think it's that far off. "Disloyal"...so if you don't bow to the altar of Tool and like everything, then you aren't a REAL fan. That is just so damn weird. I know fans of bands like Led Zeppelin, Rush, Rolling Stones...all fans of those bands have albums and songs they like, some they don't. Sometimes entire albums they don't care for. But you are not allowed that in Tool fandom...or you are DISLOYAL.