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Just getting my brain a new portal blown through it listening to the build up at the 9:30 mark of Pneuma...

It's akin to taking a hit of DMT for chrissakes.
 
I've been a Tool fan for maybe 3-4 months now and I think the new album is fantastic. It sounds like Tool (Go figure) but its more reserved in a good way. This was the path that they were going on and I don't mind this at all cause like I said I've been a fan for a very short time and honestly like the newer albums better than the old ones. Gimme Lateralus, 10,000 Days and Fear Inoculum over the older stuff and I'm good. I do enjoy some of the older songs but there's something about the newer writing method and production that I'm a major fan of. It feels like a modern Pink Floyd listening experience where its best just to press play and take it in.
 
Personally I feel like they took all of their previous efforts and mashed them up and released the product as this new album. Thought many times listening to it “I’ve heard this riff before”. Yes, it sounds like Tool, but 13 years for something I couldn’t make it through without falling asleep is disappointing. $50 or whatever it was for the CD just made it worse. I feel like the angst is gone and with it went the inspiration. 26 year fan here just stating my opinion, not meant to bash or start an argument but 10,000 days was a perfect ending chapter.
 
Ventura":33samv1g said:
Just getting my brain a new portal blown through it listening to the build up at the 9:30 mark of Pneuma...

It's akin to taking a hit of DMT for chrissakes.

Possibly the greatest moment on the album. The mix is simply stunning, not just in that part but the entire album. And the ending after that point in the song is incredible.

I was going to go through and nominate the tracks and highlights, but to be honest I like them all for different reasons. I previously had Pneuma on high rotation, but now it’s 7empest.

The whole album is a masterpiece, there is no doubt about that. I have not stopped listening to it and probably won’t for the next month. I can’t get enough!!!!
 
I’ve only heard a few songs, and staying interested has been a chore.
I don’t mind being labeled disloyal and disillusioned by fanbois for not wading thru boring, rehashed poo.
Same thing happened when I fell asleep on my first listen to Load. Still haven’t cared enough to attempt a second listen.
I will listen to the whole album at some point. Hope it doesn’t put me to sleep.
 
Been listening to this album all day because I've been testing out a bunch of new headphones and the production on this album makes for a good test piece to compare cans. It's growing on me. Especially Pneuma. Man... such a great song. Also the drum solo track is incredible through a pair of Nuraphone headphones. Man... it's like I'm sitting there in front of Danny's drum set getting a private show. Those are some cool headphones, btw. You can quite literally feel the kick drum like it's in the room.
 
Supergroup sans badge, in stack fotos
funny on the plymouth badge. is that some dino randall ?
 
talpa":cnxppmkt said:
Supergroup sans badge, in stack fotos
funny on the plymouth badge. is that some dino randall ?
You talk weird.
 
Pneuma is an outstanding track. Felt like coming home on the first listen.

I'm seriously contemplating on flying down to Los Angeles to see them perform at the Staples Center next month.
 
Yeah the buildup at 9:30 on Pneuma is sweeeeet. It hits like a sledgehammer.
 
RyeDaddy":3rm68kjf said:
Personally I feel like they took all of their previous efforts and mashed them up and released the product as this new album. Thought many times listening to it “I’ve heard this riff before”. Yes, it sounds like Tool, but 13 years for something I couldn’t make it through without falling asleep is disappointing. $50 or whatever it was for the CD just made it worse. I feel like the angst is gone and with it went the inspiration. 26 year fan here just stating my opinion, not meant to bash or start an argument but 10,000 days was a perfect ending chapter.

Couldn't have said it better. They're just going through the motions, but it doesn't mean anything anymore. It's like they have become their own simulation. The real thing is long gone.
I don't blame them for having running out of new ideas. Who doesn't? I blame them for not calling it a day.
The last Zeppelin albums had new things to offer. Tool does not.
 
60 minutes of repetitive BS, but hey the 30 seconds in that one song was great!

I’m sure I’ll like it more as I listen to it, but I wish the songs would rock out a little more. Not the album I wanted, but I guess it’s the album I expected.
 
Vin Diezel":27os9b6d said:
RyeDaddy":27os9b6d said:
Personally I feel like they took all of their previous efforts and mashed them up and released the product as this new album. Thought many times listening to it “I’ve heard this riff before”. Yes, it sounds like Tool, but 13 years for something I couldn’t make it through without falling asleep is disappointing. $50 or whatever it was for the CD just made it worse. I feel like the angst is gone and with it went the inspiration. 26 year fan here just stating my opinion, not meant to bash or start an argument but 10,000 days was a perfect ending chapter.

Couldn't have said it better. They're just going through the motions, but it doesn't mean anything anymore. It's like they have become their own simulation. The real thing is long gone.
I don't blame them for having running out of new ideas. Who doesn't? I blame them for not calling it a day.
The last Zeppelin albums had new things to offer. Tool does not.
Nah, you just come across as having hate in your heart and jumping on the Tool bashing bandwagon because it's trendy right now. Your claim doesn't hold water. Just because your expectations weren't meant, doesn't mean they missed they missed the mark. I don't want another angst-ridden 90s album. I'm past that. But apparently a lot of others aren't and are still living in the past and unable to embrace the future.
 
D-Rock":2cg2yiqd said:
Vin Diezel":2cg2yiqd said:
RyeDaddy":2cg2yiqd said:
Personally I feel like they took all of their previous efforts and mashed them up and released the product as this new album. Thought many times listening to it “I’ve heard this riff before”. Yes, it sounds like Tool, but 13 years for something I couldn’t make it through without falling asleep is disappointing. $50 or whatever it was for the CD just made it worse. I feel like the angst is gone and with it went the inspiration. 26 year fan here just stating my opinion, not meant to bash or start an argument but 10,000 days was a perfect ending chapter.

Couldn't have said it better. They're just going through the motions, but it doesn't mean anything anymore. It's like they have become their own simulation. The real thing is long gone.
I don't blame them for having running out of new ideas. Who doesn't? I blame them for not calling it a day.
The last Zeppelin albums had new things to offer. Tool does not.
Nah, you just come across as having hate in your heart and jumping on the Tool bashing bandwagon because it's trendy right now. Your claim doesn't hold water. Just because your expectations weren't meant, doesn't mean they missed they missed the mark. I don't want another angst-ridden 90s album. I'm past that. But apparently a lot of others aren't and are still living in the past and unable to embrace the future.

I had a longer post written out, but I think maybe it can be more succinct.

Every album from every artist guarantees that some fan leave the bandwagon. Others may jump on, though sometimes they don't.

This Tool album--like every other Tool album--is polarizing. Given the age of their average listener and general landscape of music today, it's unlikely that as many people will jump on the bandwagon as jump off... though I wouldn't be surprised if the children of Tool fans who are really digging this album, come to find this as their gateway into Tool. Because, guys, Tool is on the verge of being Classic Rock.

The listener market always evolves. Either it evolves with the band, or it evolves in a different direction.

Vin Diezel":2cg2yiqd said:
I blame them for not calling it a day.

This actually really irks me. Straight up behind-the-keyboard judgmental BS against a group of grown men doing something they love to do, that isn't hurting anyone, and that happens to still bring a lot of joy to millions of people. And you want to "blame" them for not stopping? GMAFB. They don't owe you a god damned thing. If you're so offended by them putting out this album, maybe just, you know, stop listening and stop caring. They're not for you anymore. Move on.
 
I was prepared to be disappointed by this record. Although I enjoyed the latest APC release, it had all but lost its rock edge. If Adam decided to play piano on the new Tool instead of guitar I don't know wtf I'd do. But this is a masterpiece. The whole band is talented, but I feel this is Adam's best work ever. I'm absolutely blown away. I'm a fan of a wide variety of music, not just heavy stuff (but I love heavy stuff too). I wonder if the people who are critical of this record are big metal heads or something like that? A lot of people just don't like things that are new, and I get that.

Anyway, everyones's entitled to their own opinion, but there's gotta' be a million critics for every 1 artist out there. Artistic critiques are of value, but c'mon. Critique less, create more. The world is a bandwagon (music, movies, clothes, cars, food, religion, politics etc.). Hop off and live a little.
 
I wasn't going to weigh in on this, but fuck it, lets do this....

had it a week before release, also bought the physical, at first listen, was hugely disappointed, seemed recycled, which era in their own music the influence is VERY obvious, certain parts sound VERY much like previous works, if not so much that makes me think, "I've heard this before", it's weird.... I get that tool have "found their sound" and use it, hell I'm an AC/DC and Slayer fan, I get that, but some of this strikes me as "Phoned in".

I'm on my 5th listen. it's slowly growing on me, this is the first tool album I didn't immediately love. We'll see how this goes. The mix on this, HOLY SHIT, does it sound good.

(equal to a hit of DMT? really?)
 
dirtyfunkg":1w57jrtb said:
D-Rock":1w57jrtb said:
Vin Diezel":1w57jrtb said:
RyeDaddy":1w57jrtb said:
Personally I feel like they took all of their previous efforts and mashed them up and released the product as this new album. Thought many times listening to it “I’ve heard this riff before”. Yes, it sounds like Tool, but 13 years for something I couldn’t make it through without falling asleep is disappointing. $50 or whatever it was for the CD just made it worse. I feel like the angst is gone and with it went the inspiration. 26 year fan here just stating my opinion, not meant to bash or start an argument but 10,000 days was a perfect ending chapter.

Couldn't have said it better. They're just going through the motions, but it doesn't mean anything anymore. It's like they have become their own simulation. The real thing is long gone.
I don't blame them for having running out of new ideas. Who doesn't? I blame them for not calling it a day.
The last Zeppelin albums had new things to offer. Tool does not.
Nah, you just come across as having hate in your heart and jumping on the Tool bashing bandwagon because it's trendy right now. Your claim doesn't hold water. Just because your expectations weren't meant, doesn't mean they missed they missed the mark. I don't want another angst-ridden 90s album. I'm past that. But apparently a lot of others aren't and are still living in the past and unable to embrace the future.

I had a longer post written out, but I think maybe it can be more succinct.

Every album from every artist guarantees that some fan leave the bandwagon. Others may jump on, though sometimes they don't.

This Tool album--like every other Tool album--is polarizing. Given the age of their average listener and general landscape of music today, it's unlikely that as many people will jump on the bandwagon as jump off... though I wouldn't be surprised if the children of Tool fans who are really digging this album, come to find this as their gateway into Tool. Because, guys, Tool is on the verge of being Classic Rock.

The listener market always evolves. Either it evolves with the band, or it evolves in a different direction.

Vin Diezel":1w57jrtb said:
I blame them for not calling it a day.

This actually really irks me. Straight up behind-the-keyboard judgmental BS against a group of grown men doing something they love to do, that isn't hurting anyone, and that happens to still bring a lot of joy to millions of people. And you want to "blame" them for not stopping? GMAFB. They don't owe you a god damned thing. If you're so offended by them putting out this album, maybe just, you know, stop listening and stop caring. They're not for you anymore. Move on.


My point is not bullshit.
You don't seem to understand the concept of art and criticism/critique in general. Every piece of art can be criticised by people who know something about the craft and by ignorants as well.
You'll just have to live with that. It's is my personal and substantiated opinion that they should have quit after Lateralus and done other things.
If you want to listen to this rehashed bogus, go for it.
They owe everything to people like me who bought their albums and merch so they could make a living playing music and being artsy types.
Got that? ;)
 
D-Rock":2crngqtx said:
Vin Diezel":2crngqtx said:
RyeDaddy":2crngqtx said:
Personally I feel like they took all of their previous efforts and mashed them up and released the product as this new album. Thought many times listening to it “I’ve heard this riff before”. Yes, it sounds like Tool, but 13 years for something I couldn’t make it through without falling asleep is disappointing. $50 or whatever it was for the CD just made it worse. I feel like the angst is gone and with it went the inspiration. 26 year fan here just stating my opinion, not meant to bash or start an argument but 10,000 days was a perfect ending chapter.

Couldn't have said it better. They're just going through the motions, but it doesn't mean anything anymore. It's like they have become their own simulation. The real thing is long gone.
I don't blame them for having running out of new ideas. Who doesn't? I blame them for not calling it a day.
The last Zeppelin albums had new things to offer. Tool does not.
Nah, you just come across as having hate in your heart and jumping on the Tool bashing bandwagon because it's trendy right now. Your claim doesn't hold water. Just because your expectations weren't meant, doesn't mean they missed they missed the mark. I don't want another angst-ridden 90s album. I'm past that. But apparently a lot of others aren't and are still living in the past and unable to embrace the future.

I do not hate them. I even feel a bit sad about it.
I was a huge fan for many years and saw them live 3 months ago. It was a great concert, but the new songs also sucked live. You can ask my wife. :lol: :LOL:
This experience also proves once and for all that music is not about amps and gear. In the end only the music counts.

It's just weak songwriting - like painting by numbers. It's not my fault. I just cannot lie. Tool certainly appreciates my sincerity. :D
They probably also feel that it is lame and laboured in comparison to the stuff they've done.
I am real fan of their music, just not of the music they're making now. I am not a blind follower that accepts anything only because it says TOOL. Everybody is fallible, even the big heros.

Think for yourself
Question authority




Saw the Pumkpins as well. Good performance but weak new songs. :dunno:
Chris Cornell, in contrast, made a quite good last album before he died.
 
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