New Van Halen video - They're back!

[Rogue]

I hear ya. But to me the trail was blazed with Eruption - VH 1. Everything after that is just a different flavor. VH 1 is what sent everyone into the woodshed to practice. - and work on their tone.

I certainly hope that isn't the expectations for the new album because I can say right now someone will be disappointed.

 

[ejecta]

I hear ya. But to me the trail was blazed with Eruption - VH 1. Everything after that is just a different flavor. VH 1 is what sent everyone into the woodshed to practice. - and work on their tone.

I certainly hope that isn't the expectations for the new album because I can say right now someone will be disappointed.

Not if the new album is recorded with a Cameron amp.

 

[Gainzilla]

A lot of post Roth era VH popularity had nothing to do with Roth era VH. They had more number 1 hits, more number 1 albums post Roth.

Horse hooey,They wrote poppier stuff with hagar, They were 2 different bands. Poppier stuff will bring in more mainstream listeneners but youre kidding yourself if you that Roth era fans werent a huge contributing factor. You can album sales and figures all you want, it certainly doesnt define what makes VH relevant..

Largely because they expanded beyond the 80s and evolved with the modern era that appealed to a larger base and still were different than everyone else....that and Sammy was a more appealing singer to the masses.

Nope, era had nothing to do with it IMHO, poppier tunes did. Was Sammy more appealing? who's to say? I happen to like them both but vastly prefer the bulk of Roth Material over Hagars. I happen to love For Unlawful Carnal Knowledge but it ended there.

Sure, a lot of 40+ year old men will go berserk for 80s material. That will not make them a relevant band today. And less face it, they aren't going to put out something like they did back in the day, and thus half or more of these people will be upset and dislike it. It's much more prudent to write music that fits in somewhere in the modern age. They did fine with this model even though old fans were kicking and screaming about the 80s.

They already are relevant, Always were, always will be. They dont have to do anything, prudent or otherwise. They can do whatever they want and it wont change a thing.

Nirvana was the only grunge band in the 90s? Were you stuck listening to 80s music in the 90s? There were a lot of bands in the 90s that faded away, just like any era. Typically because they were unable to come up with new material.

Im talking about the major players that are still out there today( Pearl Jam, AIC, Soundgarden), what bands were you talking about? why would you think that I was stuck in the 80's? Grunge came and went faster than any genre that Ive ever seen besides nu metal and rap metal LOL. Oh Yeah, they were 90's bands too LOL...

You ever listen to a band that releases a new song and you go "that's just a rehash of the great song they did". Did you EVER say, "cool!" I should hope not. Booooorrring.

Theres a difference between rehashing and writing in the spirit of. You also have to take into account with who youre dealing with. How many Metallica fans want an album that takes them back to any of the first 3? VH fans that want something like the first 5( not including Diver Down) How many GnR fans want something like the first 3? You think anyone is out there pining away for another Chinese Democracy or St Anger or VHIII or hopefully youre getting the point...

Theres rehashing and then theres writing in the same style. Ill gladly take either at this point and quite honestly, would prefer that since Roth is back. That said, Im totally open to completely new material as long as it rocks and EVH can still play.. IF he proceeds along the lines of VHIII or several other Hagar era releases, I can always find enjoyment in a bunch of their other material..

Either way, Vh is still the relevant band that they always were and always will be..

Yet, they are still popular and selling out shows. In fact, more than before. People like to hear old stuff, sure, but rehashing the same old stuff is boring as hell (see point above).

Maybe for you but that isnt exactly relevant is it?

 

[Gainzilla]

I hear ya. But to me the trail was blazed with Eruption - VH 1. Everything after that is just a different flavor. VH 1 is what sent everyone into the woodshed to practice. - and work on their tone.

I certainly hope that isn't the expectations for the new album because I can say right now someone will be disappointed.

yeah, Im not banking on that carrying much weight... My desires either for that matter but Ill be happy if they do...

 

[bsp01]

I'd say threads like this all over the internet are the prime example of why they'll probably do ok with a new record. There's is a huge amount of interest, regardless of the history. However, I think if they pull the plug and this all goes down the tubes they're finished. Fans of the band can't have yet another disappointment.

I'd be happy if the record had a couple of good tunes and some tasty EVH riffs here and there. I don't expect a lot from any record or band anymore, not even the once "mighty" Van Halen.

 

[romanianreaper]

I think people often expect too much when a new album comes out from an older band. For example, the new Sabbath album will be out within a year. Obviously they are not going to sound like the recorded "Paranoid" in someone's garage so people have to realize that age, equipment, etc. makes a huge difference.

I might be in the minority here but I really think the new album is going to kick ass. I just think they are back in a good place health-wise, family-wise, and equipment-wise and I'm expecting something sounding a bit like "1984" but with some songs sounding even older. There won't be any ballads, that's for sure.

 

[Gainzilla]

I think people often expect too much when a new album comes out from an older band. For example, the new Sabbath album will be out within a year. Obviously they are not going to sound like the recorded "Paranoid" in someone's garage so people have to realize that age, equipment, etc. makes a huge difference.

I might be in the minority here but I really think the new album is going to kick ass. I just think they are back in a good place health-wise, family-wise, and equipment-wise and I'm expecting something sounding a bit like "1984" but with some songs sounding even older. There won't be any ballads, that's for sure.

I dont know if its expecting too much as much as it hoping that it will play to their own personal preferences. I dont need a band to evolve for them to be considered good or relevant and I certainly dont think that its necessary in the least, especially when youre talking about a band with the status of VH. Like I said earlier, VH established their relevance years ago.

Ive seen VH on every tour since my first show with them when they opened up for Sabbath at MSG in 78(Maybe 79? damn...). regardless of how felt about whatever album they were touring behind, I was there to see Eddie, first and foremost( Though the DLR era shows were FUN!!)

I liked the Sammy stuff but not as much as the earlier stuff , its obvious where my preference lies. Truthfully, If Eddie is throwing it down, Im going to be happy, regardless of whatever style he chooses to deliver it..

 

[megamike]

Im sick and tired of hearing about Micheal Anthony!

MA is gone!...adios....outta there!...aint coming back Of course it wont be the same. Why have judgement on something that you havent even heard yet? Give it a chance for cryin' out loud. Ed is sober and probably feels like a major jackass for his past behavior. Alcoholism and drugs are no joke...especially when you're a gazillionaire. The guy is a rock legend and has a prodigy son that has grew up his entire life in the studio and around musicians. I think they both have something to prove wouldnt you think?

Who knows...this music may be 'fresh' with the added input of a younger person in the band

I'm looking forward to it

i totally agree, I'm sooo amped for this. i wish Mike was still in the band just like everyone else, he was a major part of the VH sound. but i don't feel sorry for him ,he's out playin in a cool band now,that actually puts out music.

 

[zewango]

Jan 10th the single and video Feb 7th the album.
Here we go. Can't wait.

 

[70strathead]

The good thing is that everyone on this board has always been irrelevant when it comes to playing/releasing music that matters, so there is no worries about losing what you never had in the first place!!

VH could shit out better stuff even today, than anyone on here could produce( myself included )

At least this release is from a group of guys that have a chance at making some magic

Good post!

 

[James Lugo]

It's funny to read that Eddie's not relevant on the forum that every other thread is about Jose mod this, Cameron that... Very suspect.

 

[Mailman1971]

I would rather Have Dave back...Wolfie on Bass....
then EVER ........EVER.......see this again.....

 

[Rogue]

I would rather Have Dave back...Wolfie on Bass....
then EVER ........EVER.......see this again.....

What the hell was that at 2:16?

 

[Mailman1971]

I would rather Have Dave back...Wolfie on Bass....
then EVER ........EVER.......see this again.....

What the hell was that at 2:16?

Think he learned that from Gary Cherone....

 

[marvcus]

Very intrigued to hear the new stuff. All the hype (good or bad) is just that. Van Halen is by far the best band at keeping everybody out of the loop. There have always been so many untrue rumors associated with this band. Anyone recall the VH "Pleasure Dome" board rumors (a) Terrence Trent D'arby or (b) Independent's Day? Am I legit on this subject now?

I will admittedly be listening with discerning and judgmental ears. I don't think anybody expects a "VHI" or even a "1984" here, but I am rooting for them and hope the fire is still there after 30+ years. If they can create anything close to the two "Best of" songs - MWM and CGTSNM - it'll be a winner.

 

[verderacer]

LAME They were great once, hoped it would be again but have my doubts..

 

[Red_Label]

The good thing is that everyone on this board has always been irrelevant when it comes to playing/releasing music that matters, so there is no worries about losing what you never had in the first place!!

VH could shit out better stuff even today, than anyone on here could produce( myself included )

At least this release is from a group of guys that have a chance at making some magic

On the one hand, I hear your sentiment.

On the other, I think you're full of shit. There are some DAMN fine players on this board who've produced some damn cool music. Certainly more interesting to me than anything VH has done in a little while. I could give a rat's ass anymore what bands the record industry wants to push on us. So "popular" and "radio airplay" mean jack squat to me.

VH's new album will either stand on its own/rock/etc, or it will fail/suck/meh/whatever. Just because they were once a serious game changer doesn't make everything they "shit" out relevant for time and all eternity. And just because internet boards are full of wanna-bes, posers, and complete failures... doesn't mean that EVERY one who participates on them belongs in that same class. There are a few players on this very board that are a helluva lot more interesting and relevant to my interests these days than modern VH has been. Nothing can ever take away the fact that Eddie changed the game immeasurably. I still feel like a friggin giddy teenager sometimes when I crank up "Mean Streets" and play along with it. But this rock star bullshit whereby anything a washed-up has-been shits-out automatically turns to gold because of something said rock star once did... is TOTAL HORSESHIT and one of the big problems with the music industry. Either something IS shit, or it's NOT shit. Doesn't matter who did it.


Oh... and to repeat... I'm ROOTING for VH to tear the roof off with their new album. But based on the past two decades plus of their track record... I ain't holdin my breath.

 

[DeezDemos]

I would rather Have Dave back...Wolfie on Bass....
then EVER ........EVER.......see this again.....

Different strokes I guess, but I thought that was pretty cool..........

 

[racerevlon]

Screw the band... let's talk about what look to be 6 x 12's on their side under the heads on Ed's side of the stage. New product release, or are those just rectangular 4 x 12's?

 

[ejecta]

I would rather Have Dave back...Wolfie on Bass....
then EVER ........EVER.......see this again.....

I'd much rather have Mike in the band and Gary singing than ever hear this again.

Honestly I think the line up matters very little.... it's Ed's state of mind that really seems to matter.