NGD Gone Bad - Unwanted Chambering

[TheGreatGreen]

Someday you will regret returning it.

I dunno, if it was me and I wanted a solid body guitar and got a chambered one, I’d regret that it wasn’t a solid body every time I looked at it.

 

[Geo]

I dunno, if it was me and I wanted a solid body guitar and got a chambered one, I’d regret that it wasn’t a solid body every time I looked at it.

As we get older our tastes change and that guitar will double in value in about 5 years.

He should keep it and buy another.

 

[fusedbrain]

In my experience lighter weight guitars to tend to have more lively, acoustic qualities on clean to edge of breakup settings - and lack a bit of firmness and punch as gain increases. My 2 absolute best sounding guitars for higher gain settings are a pair of slap together partscasters with Northern Hard Ash bodies. Each one weighs a ton. The lightest guitar in my stable is a Roasted Swamp Ash partscaster. Really nice guitar - very light - very resonant. I can sit in the living room and play it with no amp and it is 'almost' like having one of those thin bodied Ovation acoustics. But it just doesn't deliver at higher gain settings like the two Northern Ash guitars.

This!
Just flipped a mid 2000's LP that weighed 7.5 lbs.
Played like a dream, and into a vox or a deluxe, was really nice for early Stones or Tom Petty type tones.
Into a 5150 or 4 gain stage Marshall type amp it was dog poop. No balls.
Tried about 10 different pickups, and no dice.
Gonzo!
This is probably the 3rd time this has happened to me with light and/or chambered guitars.
Never again.

 

[Rackman]

Man, that sucks

I prefer chambered LPs, but it sucks when you want one thing and got another.

Yeah this isn't even a bash on chambered LPs. If I was looking for something that filled the role my ES Supreme does, this would be a good option. It's got NICE cleans and jazz/blues sounds.

But it does suck because that's not what I wanted it for.

 

[Rackman]

As we get older our tastes change and that guitar will double in value in about 5 years.

He should keep it and buy another.

No space for that - it's gotta be the 1-in/1-out plan for better or worse.

 

[Mike Oxhuge]

I had 3 chambered Les Pauls and none of them sounded as good as my old cheap import Hamer double cut. All of the 2019 up non chambered ones Ive owned or played aounded amazing.

 

[napalmdeath]

I have two 68 ri's, both 2007. Both are chambered. I thought all 68 ri's were chambered.

Some are. It comes down to the year, and specific finish. Some were dealer exclusives, M2M, quilt tops, etc. I think this seller just made an assumption, and didn't have the facts, or research the particular model. They're not all created equal, just because it's a 68 reissue LPC. There were variations, especially the year.

 

[harddriver]

First off... shit costs way too much to not get exactly what you want. If you don't you will never be 100% happy with it.

If you asked up front if this was chambered and they said no, then they should have no problem taking it back. Either way Reverb will/should allow you to return it since it was misrepresented either by mistake or knowingly.

 

[harddriver]

As we get older our tastes change and that guitar will double in value in about 5 years.

He should keep it and buy another.

If it's not what he wants he would never be happy with it, speaking from all my past experiences buying guitars.

 

[TheGreatGreen]

Funny enough, I find the best sounding LP’s for high gain are completely solid body with an ABR-1 bridge, the kind with the two posts screwed directly into the wood. I know that sounds weirdly specific but those bridges do something good to the resonance of the guitar, they even things out and minimize the honk.

 

[thegame]

False advertising, either though willful deception or uninformed ignorance, is false advertising. You deserve a 100% refund + anything you’re out of pocket for, from this transaction.

 

[GOHOINC]

Some are. It comes down to the year, and specific finish. Some were dealer exclusives, M2M, quilt tops, etc. I think this seller just made an assumption, and didn't have the facts, or research the particular model. They're not all created equal, just because it's a 68 reissue LPC. There were variations, especially the year.

Certainly appears so. Did Gibson do a chambered body in 68? How does one justify calling something a reissue if it differs from the original? Suppose it doesn't really matter but it leads to confusion. Leads back to the idea of play it before you buy it, make sure you like it, whatever it is...

 

[napalmdeath]

False advertising, either though willful deception or uninformed ignorance, is false advertising. You deserve a 100% refund + anything you’re out of pocket for, from this transaction.

I think the seller was misinformed. Ignorance is no excuse, however. If OP wanted non-chambered, and paid for it with those expectations, he's certainly within his rights to return it.

That said, I've never heard of chambering having an effect on high gain tones? I've had many Les Pauls, chambered, weight relieved, and a few that had neither. Could be just the pickups. Some Gibson pickups aren't all that, regardless of price. They make some I absolutely hate.

 

[SgtThump]

Some are. It comes down to the year, and specific finish. Some were dealer exclusives, M2M, quilt tops, etc. I think this seller just made an assumption, and didn't have the facts, or research the particular model. They're not all created equal, just because it's a 68 reissue LPC. There were variations, especially the year.

He asked the seller directly if it was chambered and they said no. That’s pretty good research.

I’ve owned a couple of chambered guitars and never want another one. In all cases, they sounded “soft” and wimpy with no bite. Not for me.

 

[napalmdeath]

He asked the seller directly if it was chambered and they dais no. That’s pretty good research.

I’ve owned a couple of chambered guitars and never want another one. In all cases, they sounded “soft” and wimpy with no bite. Not for me.

I was referring to the seller. They failed to understand what they were selling. Either a liar, or misinformed. If they bought it new, he would have known better. If he bought it used under the assumption it was chambered, he passed on that assumption.

 

[SgtThump]

I was referring to the seller. They failed to understand what they were selling. Either a liar, or misinformed. If they bought it new, he would have known better. If he bought it used under the assumption it was chambered, he passed on that assumption.

Oh gotcha! That makes sense.

I was in Tulsa 2 weeks ago and thought I found the ultimate super light ‘54 RI Les Paul.

I noticed the C in the serial number and looked it up. Yep, chambered. Glad I didn’t buy that only to find out later!

 

[japetus]

Oh gotcha! That makes sense.

I was in Tulsa 2 weeks ago and thought I found the ultimate super light ‘54 RI Les Paul.

I noticed the C in the serial number and looked it up. Yep, chambered. Glad I didn’t buy that only to find out later!

Am I wrong in feeling like I would never want to buy a chambered/weight relief LP? I want the full pull, the real thick body and full top. I guess the "c" could mean many things.....