glip22
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Exactly. Custom made guitars. PeriodJackTripper":1mf2l5th said:
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JackTripper
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sah5150":3flomo02 said:
Specifically, take a look at serial 4302 and 4512. Same color and odd layout. Probably the same batch.
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I'm going to attribute the anomalies to how stoned everyone was while building them... Still, relatively rare to see the volume knob not centered on the bridge hum on Charvel strat bodies...JackTripper":gs81mvmd said:
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Racerxrated
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If you ever get to the Eau Claire area let me know...swing by and give it a whirl.cecilbag":10jpltzy said:
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JackTripper
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sah5150":nbb00p66 said:
You're probably right, it was the 80s afterall. I also agree about knob/toggle layout, it's one of the first things my eyes gravitate toward when looking at originals.
This one is still cool, I like the matching headstock.
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Just pulled the neck and its marked 11-16-84 on the neck and body insert..sah5150":1bgj2tz6 said:
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There is no doubt in my mind that it is legit and with the matching headstock is KILLER! Much congrats!Racerxrated":2v4bza6u said:
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Thanks!sah5150":td4fgyy9 said:
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Chubtone":198ypu84 said:
Is that so? Well then... I'm gonna have to disagree since I have myself (poorly!
What can I say... I'm an innovator... And look where I put the volume knob!
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cecilbag":28zzgge8 said:
This is exactly what happened to me in 1984. I had a Les Paul Custom that I got brand new in 1980. I played the hell out of that thing. Every day I played it for hours. It was the guitar I grew up on. The guitar I went from lower intermediate to pretty good on. Then in 1983 I played a Kramer Pacer and I liked it a lot. I started saving my pizza delivery money for the Kramer . The Kramer was $595 and when I had finally scraped $600 together I went to downtown Chicago with a friend to buy the Kramer. (I wasn't allowed to drive to downtown Chicago, hell I wasn't even allowed to go to downtown Chicago)
I walked into that Guitar Center with $600 burning a hole in my pocket. The sales guy steered me toward the Kramers and hung back a little bit while I checked them out. After a few minutes he came up and asked me if I had ever played a Charvel. I had barely even heard of a Charvel in 1983. I had heard the name in Van Halen and Randy Rhoads interviews but had never seen one in person. He pulled down a Charvel from the wall and in 10 seconds, I no longer wanted the Kramer. I was instantly a better player on that Charvel meaning I could pull off things that I could only partially pull off on my Les Paul.
So I left Guitar Center with $600 still in my pocket and went back to delivering pizza's until I could scrape up another $300. The sales guy at GC took my phone number to let me know when more Charvels came in. About a month later I was up to $700 in savings and he called and said they just got in 7 or 8 new Charvels. All I talked about at work was that Charvel and when I told my friends there that a bunch of new Charvels had just come in, my boss overheard me. He pulled me aside and asked me how close I was to being able to buy one. He pulled $200 out of his pocket, explained the loan terms and gave me the day off.
I enlisted my buddy to drive me downtown again that night and the sales guy let me play all the new Charvels until I decided on this one.
I did not choose this black Charvel that George Lynch picked up a week or so later from Chicago GC:
And my sales guy was Dave Anderson from local Chicago band Eric Steel. He was endorsed and is #4 in this famous ad.
glip22
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That's just awesome. I bet you miss that CharvelChubtone":2dd2i06e said:cecilbag":2dd2i06e said:
This is exactly what happened to me in 1984. I had a Les Paul Custom that I got brand new in 1980. I played the hell out of that thing. Every day I played it for hours. It was the guitar I grew up on. The guitar I went from lower intermediate to pretty good on. Then in 1983 I played a Kramer Pacer and I liked it a lot. I started saving my pizza delivery money for the Kramer . The Kramer was $595 and when I had finally scraped $600 together I went to downtown Chicago with a friend to buy the Kramer. (I wasn't allowed to drive to downtown Chicago, hell I wasn't even allowed to go to downtown Chicago)
I walked into that Guitar Center with $600 burning a hole in my pocket. The sales guy steered me toward the Kramers and hung back a little bit while I checked them out. After a few minutes he came up and asked me if I had ever played a Charvel. I had barely even heard of a Charvel in 1983. I had heard the name in Van Halen and Randy Rhoads interviews but had never seen one in person. He pulled down a Charvel from the wall and in 10 seconds, I no longer wanted the Kramer. I was instantly a better player on that Charvel meaning I could pull off things that I could only partially pull off on my Les Paul.
So I left Guitar Center with $600 still in my pocket and went back to delivering pizza's until I could scrape up another $300. The sales guy at GC took my phone number to let me know when more Charvels came in. About a month later I was up to $700 in savings and he called and said they just got in 7 or 8 new Charvels. All I talked about at work was that Charvel and when I told my friends there that a bunch of new Charvels had just come in, my boss overheard me. He pulled me aside and asked me how close I was to being able to buy one. He pulled $200 out of his pocket, explained the loan terms and gave me the day off.
I enlisted my buddy to drive me downtown again that night and the sales guy let me play all the new Charvels until I decided on this one.
I did not choose this black Charvel that George Lynch picked up a week or so later from Chicago GC:
And my sales guy was Dave Anderson from local Chicago band Eric Steel. He was endorsed and is #4 in this famous ad.
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He still has it!glip22":18hppdky said:That's just awesome. I bet you miss that CharvelChubtone":18hppdky said:cecilbag":18hppdky said:
This is exactly what happened to me in 1984. I had a Les Paul Custom that I got brand new in 1980. I played the hell out of that thing. Every day I played it for hours. It was the guitar I grew up on. The guitar I went from lower intermediate to pretty good on. Then in 1983 I played a Kramer Pacer and I liked it a lot. I started saving my pizza delivery money for the Kramer . The Kramer was $595 and when I had finally scraped $600 together I went to downtown Chicago with a friend to buy the Kramer. (I wasn't allowed to drive to downtown Chicago, hell I wasn't even allowed to go to downtown Chicago)
I walked into that Guitar Center with $600 burning a hole in my pocket. The sales guy steered me toward the Kramers and hung back a little bit while I checked them out. After a few minutes he came up and asked me if I had ever played a Charvel. I had barely even heard of a Charvel in 1983. I had heard the name in Van Halen and Randy Rhoads interviews but had never seen one in person. He pulled down a Charvel from the wall and in 10 seconds, I no longer wanted the Kramer. I was instantly a better player on that Charvel meaning I could pull off things that I could only partially pull off on my Les Paul.
So I left Guitar Center with $600 still in my pocket and went back to delivering pizza's until I could scrape up another $300. The sales guy at GC took my phone number to let me know when more Charvels came in. About a month later I was up to $700 in savings and he called and said they just got in 7 or 8 new Charvels. All I talked about at work was that Charvel and when I told my friends there that a bunch of new Charvels had just come in, my boss overheard me. He pulled me aside and asked me how close I was to being able to buy one. He pulled $200 out of his pocket, explained the loan terms and gave me the day off.
I enlisted my buddy to drive me downtown again that night and the sales guy let me play all the new Charvels until I decided on this one.
I did not choose this black Charvel that George Lynch picked up a week or so later from Chicago GC:
And my sales guy was Dave Anderson from local Chicago band Eric Steel. He was endorsed and is #4 in this famous ad.
Steve
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Racerxrated
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If you look closely....I think....pretty sure....yup, I own JAKE E LEE's old guitar!! I'll take 10k....
Chubtone
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glip22":12gpic13 said:
I was sitting in a lesson one time and left that Charvel outside the room, leaning into a corner near my office. I could see it sitting outside through the glass on the side of the lesson room door. The kid who worked for me knew how much I loved that guitar and ALWAYS told me I should never leave it there. What does a dumbass kid know? I am the boss. So, I'm sitting in my room giving a lesson and can see my favorite guitar sitting in that spot. And I hear the vacuum going. Good, that punk is actually doing some work. I see him walk by vacuuming the whole area and he keeps going down the hallway. My guitar still sitting there looking pretty.
You all know what is coming. I'm sitting there and I see the vaccum cord snag on the Floyd Rose bar and before I could get out of my chair, the cord pulled the guitar over and SNAP!!!!! There went my headstock. Fortunately I had about 5 other original Charvel necks at that time so I was back in business in no time. That guitar has had about 10 necks on it since then since I no longer like the wide, thin feel of those pointy necks. They feel like a yardstick with frets. I like the rounder feeling necks like what is on my 1980 Charvel pre-pro.
And the kid who broke the neck didn't get in that much trouble either. He had warned me AND he was actually working AND he still works for me probably 18-20 years later.
glip22
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You dumbass Curt.Chubtone":xrgnryxk said:glip22":xrgnryxk said:
I was sitting in a lesson one time and left that Charvel outside the room, leaning into a corner near my office. I could see it sitting outside through the glass on the side of the lesson room door. The kid who worked for me knew how much I loved that guitar and ALWAYS told me I should never leave it there. What does a dumbass kid know? I am the boss. So, I'm sitting in my room giving a lesson and can see my favorite guitar sitting in that spot. And I hear the vacuum going. Good, that punk is actually doing some work. I see him walk by vacuuming the whole area and he keeps going down the hallway. My guitar still sitting there looking pretty.
You all know what is coming. I'm sitting there and I see the vaccum cord snag on the Floyd Rose bar and before I could get out of my chair, the cord pulled the guitar over and SNAP!!!!! There went my headstock. Fortunately I had about 5 other original Charvel necks at that time so I was back in business in no time. That guitar has had about 10 necks on it since then since I no longer like the wide, thin feel of those pointy necks. They feel like a yardstick with frets. I like the rounder feeling necks like what is on my 1980 Charvel pre-pro.
And the kid who broke the neck didn't get in that much trouble either. He had warned me AND he was actually working AND he still works for me probably 18-20 years later.
You have some very cool stories. Appreciate you sharing them.
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CaseyCor
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I demand more cool stories like this one! That was great Curt.
Congrats to the OP one the new pointy. Looks sharp as can be.
Congrats to the OP one the new pointy. Looks sharp as can be.
charvelstrat81
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Racerxrated":2zy1zy6v said:
Jake did have a red pointy head in that pic
cecilbag
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Great story Curt. It's such a great glimpse at that moment in time. Thank you for sharing. Until a few years ago, I didn't really know the backstory of Charvel. I just assumed they were cheaper Jacksons until I really went through and searched about it. If anyone knows a great book on early Charvel, I'd love to read it.
Chubtone
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cecilbag":1f577aoy said:
There is no great book on early Charvel. There is a book about Wayne Charvel and I am interviewed in it BUT it is full of errors and features pictures of a bunch of guitars that Wayne had no hand in designing or building which is actually every Charvel in history.
If you look at the Wayne guitars you see what looks like a guy building guitars based on his history and heritage. The strange thing is he is building guitars based on what Grover came up with years after Wayne left. Wayne is copying and living off of Grover's ideas and designs and builds. Everyone thinks Grover just took what Wayne started and ran with it. That was not the case at all. Here is why Wayne sold the company:
At the 1977 or 1978 NAMM show, Wayne and Grover were excited to showcase their new brass hardware that they were selling for guys to use on their Fender and Gibson guitars. Remember there was no such thing as a Charvel yet. Well the interest in their products was overwhelming. They took orders for over $60k worth of brass products (which was a crazy amount in those days) and Wayne panicked and thought there was no way that little local shop that made the brass parts for them (I know this shop and they are STILL making most of the brass parts for Charvel. I snag OEM stuff from them all the time. Whad'ya need?) would be able to build them all the brass parts they needed in time. Wayne wanted out. He looked at the whole NAMM show pessimistically as being the end of the little repair business he had formed and Grover looked at it as the start of something much bigger. Grover borrowed money from his dad and bought Wayne out and the rest of Charvel's cool history, heck all of Charvel's cool history except selling a Boogie Bodies body and neck to a young Eddie Van Halen was because of Grover.
Chubtone
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glip22":2sv5mddo said:You dumbass Curt.
CaseyCor":2sv5mddo said:
Bah, I'm an old man. I have to be inspired to do things these days. This forum doesn't get me riled up like it used to. If ever a forum needed a little blue pill, it's this one.
Did I ever tell you the story about when I was an old bull and I was up on top of a hill with a young bull and we saw a herd of cows down in the pasture below?
