NPD Hey bastards listen to the new mix Aldrich vs AHB3..lol

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Mark Day":2tfagofw said:
Wow, there sure are a lot of strong feelings for both sides on all forums. Not what I would of thought at all. To me they both sound great.

Like I said I can easily dial the amp to be more aggressive for the Aldrich's. When I did this test the amp was setup for the Blackouts, which really isn't fair for the Aldrich's but I had no idea what the Aldrich's would sound like before I actually installed them :)

It sure shows that the saying "Different strokes for different folks." holds true in this case :)

Mark

Mark,

That makes a lot of sense. The tone being used did seem very much like you were using your Blackout settings. Maybe it's time to dial back the gain and compression and get some killer eighties rock tones going as opposed to the very contemporary sound you've been using... ;)
 
exellent vid mark,im going with the blackouts , i thought both pickups sounded great, but the blackouts for my taste were bigger slightly more aggresive with that edge that i love..nothing against the aldrich,that pickup is what im using instead of emgs ..but in your rig i like the blackouts better :thumbsup:
 
King Loudness":bjjlqmnk said:
Mark Day":bjjlqmnk said:
Wow, there sure are a lot of strong feelings for both sides on all forums. Not what I would of thought at all. To me they both sound great.

Like I said I can easily dial the amp to be more aggressive for the Aldrich's. When I did this test the amp was setup for the Blackouts, which really isn't fair for the Aldrich's but I had no idea what the Aldrich's would sound like before I actually installed them :)

It sure shows that the saying "Different strokes for different folks." holds true in this case :)

Mark

Mark,

That makes a lot of sense. The tone being used did seem very much like you were using your Blackout settings. Maybe it's time to dial back the gain and compression and get some killer eighties rock tones going as opposed to the very contemporary sound you've been using... ;)

Maybe this is a poke in fun at the master? Forgive me if so, but for the life of me, I can't name one person who's been able to emulate the vast array of tones from throughout the years and shared them as well as Mark has.
:rock:
I for one am glad that he's jazzed about chasing tone and sharing with this with those of us, less informed in the intricate ways of the world. My Suhr hosts Aldrich's as well, as I've said before, there's something magical about that combo...maybe John sprinkled pixie dust on it before he ships them out? Shit I dunno...but I do know that Mark has that "Big and Bouncing Buffalo Balls in your face" tone thing happening, no matter what he's playing on.

easy there Don...

Maybe the next step is a blind test? Dial in each pup set to the best his OD100 has to offer...and start a poll and then let us decide. Or, just let him evolve as the current configuration inspires him to make great music...either way...am content.
:checkthisout:
 
Beyond Black":2pu79pkl said:
Hey Mark, I would really love to see a comparison video of the SPC control wide open, then completely off. All of your vids have a similar grind to them that I absolutely love. I'm just curious to hear how much the SPC is contributing to your sound.


+1 on this please :rock:
 
King Loudness":2otwm07x said:
Mark,

I just watched the demo a couple more times and really listened for the nuances that make the Blackouts different from the Aldriches, and I can certainly say that the Aldriches win hands down. To my ears, the Blackouts seemed to have this very processed quality that doesn't allow much in the way of dynamnics (IE: they sounded "full on" all the time), at least with the setup that you are using here. There is a certain "air" to passive pickups that really allow a more satisfying range of tones. However, that's just my $.02.
At first I was thinking the Blackouts destroyed them (in the high gain) because of the "fullness", but after a few more listens I totally agree with the "full on on the time" thing. The Blackouts have the initial wow factor to my ears, but it would wear on me not having better dynamics. That said, the Aldriches still aren't quite full enough IMO. I had them in a Suhr & always felt while my sound was clear & the notes breathed it still needed a touch more fullness. I hear the same thing I always felt like I was missing here too. Maybe a little eq would do the trick....
 
Jimmie":2qs08esb said:
Maybe this is a poke in fun at the master? Forgive me if so, but for the life of me, I can't name one person who's been able to emulate the vast array of tones from throughout the years and shared them as well as Mark has.
:rock:
I for one am glad that he's jazzed about chasing tone and sharing with this with those of us, less informed in the intricate ways of the world. My Suhr hosts Aldrich's as well, as I've said before, there's something magical about that combo...maybe John sprinkled pixie dust on it before he ships them out? Shit I dunno...but I do know that Mark has that "Big and Bouncing Buffalo Balls in your face" tone thing happening, no matter what he's playing on.

easy there Don...

Maybe the next step is a blind test? Dial in each pup set to the best his OD100 has to offer...and start a poll and then let us decide. Or, just let him evolve as the current configuration inspires him to make great music...either way...am content.
:checkthisout:


Thanks for the very kind words Jimmie. I've decided that I will do another demo with the Aldrich's but I will set the OD100se+ the way I want it to sound with the Aldrich's :)

I'm sure I can get them just as aggressive as the Blackouts with my rig :)

Mark
 
On the dirty stuff the Black Outs sound better to me and on the clean the Aldrich sound better. Knowing you and having played with you several times I would say WTF bro you dont play clean ever. ;)

But that said how bout a Blackout in the bridge and the Suhr in the neck. All bases covered. :thumbsup:
 
What I'm hearing is the Blackouts are more direct in that they give you what you ask for. Want G, here! The Aldrich seems to give you G and something on the side, harmonic? Just a bit more complex. I like both.
 
hthomas":3bp5nxrc said:
Cool demo Mark. Aldrich's sounded much clearer and organic. I just prefer that than the blackouts.
I agree 100%. The blackouts sounded really good, but when the Aldrich clip came on, it was like wax build up taken out of my ears.
 
King Guitar":2s9qoni1 said:
On the dirty stuff the Black Outs sound better to me and on the clean the Aldrich sound better. Knowing you and having played with you several times I would say WTF bro you dont play clean ever. ;)

But that said how bout a Blackout in the bridge and the Suhr in the neck. All bases covered. :thumbsup:


All I need to do is turn the presence up slightly on the OD100 and I'll get the agressiveness from the Aldrich's. They feel better and have something extra that the Blackouts don't have.

I will do another vid with the amp setup for the Aldrich's :)

I really like both sets both the Aldrich's just seem to have more texture and bounce.

Mark
 
Mark Day":2ajms341 said:
All I need to do is turn the presence up slightly on the OD100 and I'll get the agressiveness from the Aldrich's. They feel better and have something extra that the Blackouts don't have.


O.K., O.K., enough already .... You've got the OD-100 "doped-out" ..., MOVE ON to the Axe-Fx aready ! :D
 
Mark, if your set on the Aldrich's I'll buy your AHB 3 pickup. PM me :thumbsup:
 
Great video Mark as usual :rock:
Honestly the AHB-s are bringing the good old Mark Day over the top gain sound I always crap my pants to. The Aldrich is a great pickup but sounds "hollow" compared. The AHBs got a certain amount of mid punch and attack the Aldrich cannot cope with. (I usually hate active pickups)
The Aldrich have a more vintage sound and I don't even like them on the cleans. They sound like a really high output pickup struggling keeping the clean transients intact. The last chord sounds more natural compared to the AHB. The AHB sounds quite unnatural on cleans. But hey we are looking at a Mard Day vid. we want GAINZILLA attack :D
 
I am in the process of uploading a remix. I have a feeling I used the wrong export settings for the Aldrich audio. Anyway I'll post when it's complete :)

Mark
 
Jimmie":3i4wu3bi said:
King Loudness":3i4wu3bi said:
Mark Day":3i4wu3bi said:
Wow, there sure are a lot of strong feelings for both sides on all forums. Not what I would of thought at all. To me they both sound great.

Like I said I can easily dial the amp to be more aggressive for the Aldrich's. When I did this test the amp was setup for the Blackouts, which really isn't fair for the Aldrich's but I had no idea what the Aldrich's would sound like before I actually installed them :)

It sure shows that the saying "Different strokes for different folks." holds true in this case :)

Mark

Mark,

That makes a lot of sense. The tone being used did seem very much like you were using your Blackout settings. Maybe it's time to dial back the gain and compression and get some killer eighties rock tones going as opposed to the very contemporary sound you've been using... ;)

Maybe this is a poke in fun at the master? Forgive me if so, but for the life of me, I can't name one person who's been able to emulate the vast array of tones from throughout the years and shared them as well as Mark has.
:rock:
I for one am glad that he's jazzed about chasing tone and sharing with this with those of us, less informed in the intricate ways of the world. My Suhr hosts Aldrich's as well, as I've said before, there's something magical about that combo...maybe John sprinkled pixie dust on it before he ships them out? Shit I dunno...but I do know that Mark has that "Big and Bouncing Buffalo Balls in your face" tone thing happening, no matter what he's playing on.

easy there Don...

Maybe the next step is a blind test? Dial in each pup set to the best his OD100 has to offer...and start a poll and then let us decide. Or, just let him evolve as the current configuration inspires him to make great music...either way...am content.
:checkthisout:
Definitely not. I have nothing but the highest respect for Mark. If my post came across wrongfully, I apologize. Either way it sounds good... I just felt that maybe the Aldrich rig would benefit from more of an eighties type of tone... especially since Mark plays that type of stuff so well, and because that's what Doug himself plays with Whitesnake or his other projects.
 
New mix. I think I screwed up the export settings on the first video for the Aldrich audio...whoops that's why it wasn't so clear or loud as the Blackouts :(

 
Mark Day":18pcvaup said:
Like the title says...lol


Damn those Aldrich's are Fookin Brruuuttaaaalllll!!!

The stunned silence, speaks volumes....
 
There we go... definitely a marked improvement over the Blackouts IMO.
 
:thumbsup: still going with the blackout,the aldrich kicks arsh but i still prefer the more focused blackouts :rock:
 
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