Ok, let's face it guys....the Les Paul is the KING of TONE!

[polaris20]

Sorry, but in my 23 years of playing I have come to one conclusion.... nothing but a Les Paul sounds like a Les Paul. Look in the used market. If you want that tone, then but the guitar that gets you there without all the work. Just sayin...

Sorry, but bullshit. Heritage guitars have the LP sound. Cloning an LP isn't rocket science. Even my buddy, who's a massive LP fanboy with stuff from the 50's, 60's, and even 70's, now has a couple Heritage guitars for playing out. He won't buy new LP's.

 

[charveldan]

Yes, it's the King.

 

[Dimebag11]

Charveldan, I want that middle LP Wouldn't mind the goldtop either!

 

[King Crimson]

You're a funny guy...now go and grab your shine box.

Nothing beats a Gibson Les Paul...

 

[charveldan]

Charveldan, I want that middle LP Wouldn't mind the goldtop either!

The G0 haz 57' Classics, but toanwise they're all very similar including the Orville.

 

[racerevlon]

I'm probably going to get flamed for this, but I have three Epiphone LPs that I bought back in the early 2000's. Now, I know everything is hit and miss, but the three that I kept (I had four at one time) play exceptionally well, and after some simple setup, electronics upgrades, and pickup matches, these guitars look, feel, sound, and play great. I would not be embarrassed at all to play one of these on stage, either for the tone or the name on the headstock.

 

[SFW]

So you think it has to say Gibson on the headstock? It's a Mahoganey body, 24.75 scale, 2 humbuckers, it's not rocket science. But Tom Anderson KILLED my thinking that a singlecut guitar needs a set neck to sound great. The Bulldog i just got i prefer in everyway over my LP Custom i recently sold.

I played a McNaught that sounded better than tons of LP's i played. And there's plenty of other's out there who make Gibson killers.

No, it's doesn't have to say "Gibson" on the headstock. There are some clone Les Paul out there that sound good too. But it has to be a Les Paul. No PRS, or Anderson is going to sound like a Les Paul. Will they sound killer? Sure, but it's not going to be a Les Paul. And for the record, I never claimed that the Les Paul was the "ultimate" tone machine. It has a tone that works well for some people, and doesn't for others. I love mine, and haven't found a better guitar for how and what I play. It has "that" sound. There are plenty of great sounding guitars out there. Find the one that works for you and go with it...

 

[Spaceboy]

I've never played a Les Paul that stunned me, and I actually preferred my old Agile LP to an original.

 

[rupe]

So you think it has to say Gibson on the headstock? It's a Mahoganey body, 24.75 scale, 2 humbuckers, it's not rocket science. But Tom Anderson KILLED my thinking that a singlecut guitar needs a set neck to sound great. The Bulldog i just got i prefer in everyway over my LP Custom i recently sold.

I played a McNaught that sounded better than tons of LP's i played. And there's plenty of other's out there who make Gibson killers.

No, it's doesn't have to say "Gibson" on the headstock. There are some clone Les Paul out there that sound good too. But it has to be a Les Paul. No PRS, or Anderson is going to sound like a Les Paul. Will they sound killer? Sure, but it's not going to be a Les Paul. And for the record, I never claimed that the Les Paul was the "ultimate" tone machine. It has a tone that works well for some people, and doesn't for others. I love mine, and haven't found a better guitar for how and what I play. It has "that" sound. There are plenty of great sounding guitars out there. Find the one that works for you and go with it...

Sorry but I'm not down with that. I've bought and sold dozens of Les Pauls and was also a Gibson dealer for a large portion of the 90's. There can be quite a bit of tonal variation from one guitar to the next within the exact same model, not to mention the differences across all model lines. Who's to say which is the "definitive" Les Paul sound? It's really something that doesn't exist, even though we can all have our personal favorites. Page, Greene, Gibbons, Kossoff, the list goes on...all of them have revered Les Paul tones and none of them sound alike.

To the OP, play a bunch of them and find the one that speaks to YOU...its out there

 

[Digital Jams]

So you think it has to say Gibson on the headstock? It's a Mahoganey body, 24.75 scale, 2 humbuckers, it's not rocket science. But Tom Anderson KILLED my thinking that a singlecut guitar needs a set neck to sound great. The Bulldog i just got i prefer in everyway over my LP Custom i recently sold.

I played a McNaught that sounded better than tons of LP's i played. And there's plenty of other's out there who make Gibson killers.

No, it's doesn't have to say "Gibson" on the headstock. There are some clone Les Paul out there that sound good too. But it has to be a Les Paul. No PRS, or Anderson is going to sound like a Les Paul. Will they sound killer? Sure, but it's not going to be a Les Paul. And for the record, I never claimed that the Les Paul was the "ultimate" tone machine. It has a tone that works well for some people, and doesn't for others. I love mine, and haven't found a better guitar for how and what I play. It has "that" sound. There are plenty of great sounding guitars out there. Find the one that works for you and go with it...

Sorry but I'm not down with that. I've bought and sold dozens of Les Pauls and was also a Gibson dealer for a large portion of the 90's. There can be quite a bit of tonal variation from one guitar to the next within the exact same model, not to mention the differences across all model lines. Who's to say which is the "definitive" Les Paul sound? It's really something that doesn't exist, even though we can all have our personal favorites. Page, Greene, Gibbons, Kossoff, the list goes on...all of them have revered Les Paul tones and none of them sound alike.

To the OP, play a bunch of them and find the one that speaks to YOU...its out there

God damn if you were a chic I would fuck you right now...........................

RIP "The LP Tone" internet belief


FUCK YES!!!!!!!!!!!!


10 years of asking which one was "the one" and Rupe fucking launched that shit into orbit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Of course I was sort of saying the same thing for 10 years

 

[Loudness250]

I love Les Pauls, they are my favorite, but I would not say that it's the only thing I will play, there are some sounds I might want that I can't get out of one. Like VH tone. Or some 80's metal tones. I do think that there are some guitars, like Ibanez Artists, the Washburn pictured earlier in the thread, LTD EC1000, and such, the Anderson Bulldog, those guitars will have that Les Paul thing going too. And it definitely Does Not have to be a Gibson LP, the Japanese and korean knock offs are awesome, I have no problem saving some coin on a Burny, old Epiphone, Bacchus etc...... instead of buying a Gibson.

 

[rupe]

So you think it has to say Gibson on the headstock? It's a Mahoganey body, 24.75 scale, 2 humbuckers, it's not rocket science. But Tom Anderson KILLED my thinking that a singlecut guitar needs a set neck to sound great. The Bulldog i just got i prefer in everyway over my LP Custom i recently sold.

I played a McNaught that sounded better than tons of LP's i played. And there's plenty of other's out there who make Gibson killers.

No, it's doesn't have to say "Gibson" on the headstock. There are some clone Les Paul out there that sound good too. But it has to be a Les Paul. No PRS, or Anderson is going to sound like a Les Paul. Will they sound killer? Sure, but it's not going to be a Les Paul. And for the record, I never claimed that the Les Paul was the "ultimate" tone machine. It has a tone that works well for some people, and doesn't for others. I love mine, and haven't found a better guitar for how and what I play. It has "that" sound. There are plenty of great sounding guitars out there. Find the one that works for you and go with it...

Sorry but I'm not down with that. I've bought and sold dozens of Les Pauls and was also a Gibson dealer for a large portion of the 90's. There can be quite a bit of tonal variation from one guitar to the next within the exact same model, not to mention the differences across all model lines. Who's to say which is the "definitive" Les Paul sound? It's really something that doesn't exist, even though we can all have our personal favorites. Page, Greene, Gibbons, Kossoff, the list goes on...all of them have revered Les Paul tones and none of them sound alike.

To the OP, play a bunch of them and find the one that speaks to YOU...its out there

God damn if you were a chic I would fuck you right now...........................

RIP "The LP Tone" internet belief


FUCK YES!!!!!!!!!!!!


10 years of asking which one was "the one" and Rupe fucking launched that shit into orbit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Of course I was sort of saying the same thing for 10 years

What's that thing they say about great minds?
And if I were a chick, I'd be a lesbian

 

[Shredmonster]

Personally I can't stand Les Pauls. That is just me. Most sound muddy to my ears. Something about their sound I have never liked.
Have found some with decent neck shapes but again at the higher frets - yuck. Personally I think they are ugly as hell.

I will take a Hamer any day. They have longer neck talons and better tone IMO.

For you guys that like Les Pauls great as this is just me saying my own personal opinion is I don't like them at all. Never have.

I always get guitars that are somewhere between the mahogany sound of a Gibson and the Fender tone - usually super strats of some sort with better playability. I prefer this tone combination to the straight sound of either a Gibson or Fender unless you are specifically trying to get a tone you heard before or have to have ie. Tele or something.

 

[thiswaythatway]

So you think it has to say Gibson on the headstock? It's a Mahoganey body, 24.75 scale, 2 humbuckers, it's not rocket science. But Tom Anderson KILLED my thinking that a singlecut guitar needs a set neck to sound great. The Bulldog i just got i prefer in everyway over my LP Custom i recently sold.

I played a McNaught that sounded better than tons of LP's i played. And there's plenty of other's out there who make Gibson killers.

No, it's doesn't have to say "Gibson" on the headstock. There are some clone Les Paul out there that sound good too. But it has to be a Les Paul. No PRS, or Anderson is going to sound like a Les Paul. Will they sound killer? Sure, but it's not going to be a Les Paul. And for the record, I never claimed that the Les Paul was the "ultimate" tone machine. It has a tone that works well for some people, and doesn't for others. I love mine, and haven't found a better guitar for how and what I play. It has "that" sound. There are plenty of great sounding guitars out there. Find the one that works for you and go with it...

Sorry but I'm not down with that. I've bought and sold dozens of Les Pauls and was also a Gibson dealer for a large portion of the 90's. There can be quite a bit of tonal variation from one guitar to the next within the exact same model, not to mention the differences across all model lines. Who's to say which is the "definitive" Les Paul sound? It's really something that doesn't exist, even though we can all have our personal favorites. Page, Greene, Gibbons, Kossoff, the list goes on...all of them have revered Les Paul tones and none of them sound alike.

To the OP, play a bunch of them and find the one that speaks to YOU...its out there

God damn if you were a chic I would fuck you right now...........................

RIP "The LP Tone" internet belief


FUCK YES!!!!!!!!!!!!


10 years of asking which one was "the one" and Rupe fucking launched that shit into orbit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Of course I was sort of saying the same thing for 10 years

You know, some of the best rock tones ever were NOT recorded with Les Paul's. Back In Black probably has the thickest meaty growl I've ever heard on record, no LP's there. The first 4 VH records? How about Eric Johnson who has one of the most creamy singing lead tones, no LP's there.

And some of my favorite Gibson tones were not recorded with LP's either. Michael and Rudolph Schenker and Mathias Jabbs used V's and Explorers and DAMM, i loved their tones. Wolf Hoffman is another V user with one of the best crunch tones I've heard.

 

[thegame]

Les Pauls; Kings of tone, Jokers of staying in tune.

 

[mchn13]

I've owned a couple pauls over the years, but now have two sg's, and I get all the raunch and grind of my pauls with half the weight. Love them. Plus, I can wear them a litlle higher, and play them more like a superstrat if im so inclined. Win.
Not to mention, half the price of a paul...

 

[Dimebag11]

Les Pauls; Kings of tone, Jokers of staying in tune.

I also love the Explorer tone too.....although, I gotta say if you want a brighter, tighter LP type sound the Edwards are hard to beat for the $.

 

[Digital Jams]

So you think it has to say Gibson on the headstock? It's a Mahoganey body, 24.75 scale, 2 humbuckers, it's not rocket science. But Tom Anderson KILLED my thinking that a singlecut guitar needs a set neck to sound great. The Bulldog i just got i prefer in everyway over my LP Custom i recently sold.

I played a McNaught that sounded better than tons of LP's i played. And there's plenty of other's out there who make Gibson killers.

No, it's doesn't have to say "Gibson" on the headstock. There are some clone Les Paul out there that sound good too. But it has to be a Les Paul. No PRS, or Anderson is going to sound like a Les Paul. Will they sound killer? Sure, but it's not going to be a Les Paul. And for the record, I never claimed that the Les Paul was the "ultimate" tone machine. It has a tone that works well for some people, and doesn't for others. I love mine, and haven't found a better guitar for how and what I play. It has "that" sound. There are plenty of great sounding guitars out there. Find the one that works for you and go with it...

Sorry but I'm not down with that. I've bought and sold dozens of Les Pauls and was also a Gibson dealer for a large portion of the 90's. There can be quite a bit of tonal variation from one guitar to the next within the exact same model, not to mention the differences across all model lines. Who's to say which is the "definitive" Les Paul sound? It's really something that doesn't exist, even though we can all have our personal favorites. Page, Greene, Gibbons, Kossoff, the list goes on...all of them have revered Les Paul tones and none of them sound alike.

To the OP, play a bunch of them and find the one that speaks to YOU...its out there

God damn if you were a chic I would fuck you right now...........................

RIP "The LP Tone" internet belief


FUCK YES!!!!!!!!!!!!


10 years of asking which one was "the one" and Rupe fucking launched that shit into orbit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Of course I was sort of saying the same thing for 10 years

You know, some of the best rock tones ever were NOT recorded with Les Paul's. Back In Black probably has the thickest meaty growl I've ever heard on record, no LP's there. The first 4 VH records? How about Eric Johnson who has one of the most creamy singing lead tones, no LP's there.

And some of my favorite Gibson tones were not recorded with LP's either. Michael and Rudolph Schenker and Mathias Jabbs used V's and Explorers and DAMM, i loved their tones. Wolf Hoffman is another V user with one of the best crunch tones I've heard.

There are great LP tones out there, I am just happy that "The Tone" is dead. The internet produced label is dead

 

[blackba]

Heritage.

They look like nice guitars, but their headstock just puts me off. Even living pretty close to the heritage factory, I have yet to see one in person. At least in my city they are not popular for a gigging guitar anyway.

 

[rupe]

So you think it has to say Gibson on the headstock? It's a Mahoganey body, 24.75 scale, 2 humbuckers, it's not rocket science. But Tom Anderson KILLED my thinking that a singlecut guitar needs a set neck to sound great. The Bulldog i just got i prefer in everyway over my LP Custom i recently sold.

I played a McNaught that sounded better than tons of LP's i played. And there's plenty of other's out there who make Gibson killers.

No, it's doesn't have to say "Gibson" on the headstock. There are some clone Les Paul out there that sound good too. But it has to be a Les Paul. No PRS, or Anderson is going to sound like a Les Paul. Will they sound killer? Sure, but it's not going to be a Les Paul. And for the record, I never claimed that the Les Paul was the "ultimate" tone machine. It has a tone that works well for some people, and doesn't for others. I love mine, and haven't found a better guitar for how and what I play. It has "that" sound. There are plenty of great sounding guitars out there. Find the one that works for you and go with it...

Sorry but I'm not down with that. I've bought and sold dozens of Les Pauls and was also a Gibson dealer for a large portion of the 90's. There can be quite a bit of tonal variation from one guitar to the next within the exact same model, not to mention the differences across all model lines. Who's to say which is the "definitive" Les Paul sound? It's really something that doesn't exist, even though we can all have our personal favorites. Page, Greene, Gibbons, Kossoff, the list goes on...all of them have revered Les Paul tones and none of them sound alike.

To the OP, play a bunch of them and find the one that speaks to YOU...its out there

God damn if you were a chic I would fuck you right now...........................

RIP "The LP Tone" internet belief


FUCK YES!!!!!!!!!!!!


10 years of asking which one was "the one" and Rupe fucking launched that shit into orbit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Of course I was sort of saying the same thing for 10 years

You know, some of the best rock tones ever were NOT recorded with Les Paul's. Back In Black probably has the thickest meaty growl I've ever heard on record, no LP's there. The first 4 VH records? How about Eric Johnson who has one of the most creamy singing lead tones, no LP's there.

And some of my favorite Gibson tones were not recorded with LP's either. Michael and Rudolph Schenker and Mathias Jabbs used V's and Explorers and DAMM, i loved their tones. Wolf Hoffman is another V user with one of the best crunch tones I've heard.

There are great LP tones out there, I am just happy that "The Tone" is dead. The internet produced label is dead

It should be dead but you know some douchenozzle will read something somewhere and profess to "know Les Paul tone" all over again.

Great examples above BTW (AC/DC, Scorpions, Accept)...huge tones that rival any Les Paul recordings for big fat balls. Conversely, I recall a clip by Mark (Rockstah) of VH that sounded damn near nuts on using a Les Paul. Classic VH...hardly a tone anyone thinks of as a "Les Paul" tone, yet produced by a Les Paul (which also Eddie used back in the day).