Ok, one more time...amp used on the 87 Whitesnake CD...

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So I am speaking with my guitar tech and we start yacking about Bradshaw and John Suhr and the conversation moves towards Sykes and what he used for the 87 Whitesnake album.....of course I state MK III Colis and he says no :confused:

He said he met Sykes at NAMM and John stated in the studio it was an early 80s JMP 50 watter.....I just do not hear this though.

He does know his stuff and is a killer guitar man but I aint buying this.
 
Digital Jams":f088b said:
So I am speaking with my guitar tech and we start yacking about Bradshaw and John Suhr and the conversation moves towards Sykes and what he used for the 87 Whitesnake album.....of course I state MK III Colis and he says no :confused:

He said he met Sykes at NAMM and John stated in the studio it was an early 80s JMP 50 watter.....I just do not hear this though.

He does know his stuff and is a killer guitar man but I aint buying this.

I've seen comments about John using Mark III Colliseums everywhere.

http://www.johnsykes.com/gear.html
 
Digital Jams":9e499 said:
So I am speaking with my guitar tech and we start yacking about Bradshaw and John Suhr and the conversation moves towards Sykes and what he used for the 87 Whitesnake album.....of course I state MK III Colis and he says no :confused:

He said he met Sykes at NAMM and John stated in the studio it was an early 80s JMP 50 watter.....I just do not hear this though.

He does know his stuff and is a killer guitar man but I aint buying this.

. I have an article with Sykes in an old guitar rag about it being a slaved Boogie. The srticle never mentioned the model and later on it was mentioned on Johns website that it was the coliseum heads .Its also possible that the album was double tracked a few times and maybe he added a marshall track or two... Who knows!

With that said... If i am wrong and John did use something else... It was a highly modded JMP 50 watter or one using a shitload of boosts because I am familiar as MOFO with the old JMPS and they don't souind like that stock.
 
Jakem":3e414 said:
Digital Jams":3e414 said:
So I am speaking with my guitar tech and we start yacking about Bradshaw and John Suhr and the conversation moves towards Sykes and what he used for the 87 Whitesnake album.....of course I state MK III Colis and he says no :confused:

He said he met Sykes at NAMM and John stated in the studio it was an early 80s JMP 50 watter.....I just do not hear this though.

He does know his stuff and is a killer guitar man but I aint buying this.

I've seen comments about John using Mark III Colliseums everywhere.

http://www.johnsykes.com/gear.html

That is what I said, it is everywhere they are Mesas and it is plain as day. :aww:
 
Digital Jams":ff3af said:
So I am speaking with my guitar tech and we start yacking about Bradshaw and John Suhr and the conversation moves towards Sykes and what he used for the 87 Whitesnake album.....of course I state MK III Colis and he says no :confused:

He said he met Sykes at NAMM and John stated in the studio it was an early 80s JMP 50 watter.....I just do not hear this though.

He does know his stuff and is a killer guitar man but I aint buying this.

John had about 4 Jose modded JCM800 50watters, the 4Input models!

But i heard he used one of his Jose modded JCM800s for the Is This Love solo and a couple other solos on the 1987 CD. The main amp for rhythms and leads was a MKIII Coli!
 
Gainfreak":bc744 said:
Digital Jams":bc744 said:
So I am speaking with my guitar tech and we start yacking about Bradshaw and John Suhr and the conversation moves towards Sykes and what he used for the 87 Whitesnake album.....of course I state MK III Colis and he says no :confused:

He said he met Sykes at NAMM and John stated in the studio it was an early 80s JMP 50 watter.....I just do not hear this though.

He does know his stuff and is a killer guitar man but I aint buying this.

. I have an article with Sykes in an old guitar rag about it being a slaved Boogie and later on it was mentioned that it was the coliseum heads .Its also possible that the album was double tracked a few times and maybe he added a marshall track or two... Who knows!

With that said... If i am wrong and John did use something else... It was a highly modded JMP 50 watter or one using a shitload of boosts because I am familiar as MOFO with the old JMPS and they don't souind like that stock.

Here is the kicker, he said gunned no boost and I flat out said no way was an early 80s marshall getting that kind of grind and upper mid sizzle going unless it was rodded out.
 
Oh and BTW, im pretty sure he used those JCM800s that Jose modded, on the tour for the first Blue Murder album. In those Blue Murder live 1989 vids on youtube, you can clearly see a roadcase holding 4 modded JCM800s stacked tall.
 
MrDan666":c8d35 said:
Digital Jams":c8d35 said:
So I am speaking with my guitar tech and we start yacking about Bradshaw and John Suhr and the conversation moves towards Sykes and what he used for the 87 Whitesnake album.....of course I state MK III Colis and he says no :confused:

He said he met Sykes at NAMM and John stated in the studio it was an early 80s JMP 50 watter.....I just do not hear this though.

He does know his stuff and is a killer guitar man but I aint buying this.

John had about 4 Jose modded JCM800 50watters, the 4Input models!

But i heard he used one of his Jose modded JCM800s for the Is This Love solo and a couple other solos on the 1987 CD. The main amp for rhythms and leads was a MKIII Coli!


I did not know this!!

Yeah, those rhythms are boogies though :thumbsup:
 
Digital Jams":8b793 said:
Gainfreak":8b793 said:
Digital Jams":8b793 said:
So I am speaking with my guitar tech and we start yacking about Bradshaw and John Suhr and the conversation moves towards Sykes and what he used for the 87 Whitesnake album.....of course I state MK III Colis and he says no :confused:

He said he met Sykes at NAMM and John stated in the studio it was an early 80s JMP 50 watter.....I just do not hear this though.

He does know his stuff and is a killer guitar man but I aint buying this.

. I have an article with Sykes in an old guitar rag about it being a slaved Boogie and later on it was mentioned that it was the coliseum heads .Its also possible that the album was double tracked a few times and maybe he added a marshall track or two... Who knows!

With that said... If i am wrong and John did use something else... It was a highly modded JMP 50 watter or one using a shitload of boosts because I am familiar as MOFO with the old JMPS and they don't souind like that stock.

Here is the kicker, he said gunned no boost and I flat out said no way was an early 80s marshall getting that kind of grind and upper mid sizzle going unless it was rodded out.
Then your tech is either lying or John was ribbing him Bigtime. Ask anyone who has played a cranked JMP with no boost and they will tell you the same thing I am. That tone aint in there..... Early VH maybe but W/S no fucking way unless its modded or using a boost or even using multiple JMP's preamped together.
 
Digital Jams":a673e said:
I did not know this!!

Yeah, those rhythms are boogies though :thumbsup:


They are 110% Boogies for all the rhythms and for most of the leads. When i plug my R7 LP into the MKIII with no boost, and plugged into a 4x12 cab with 25w Greenies.. i can pretty much nail the 1987 sound!! and i dont just mean a little bit, im talking about 99% of the way there!
 
MrDan666":d63d2 said:
Oh and BTW, im pretty sure he used those JCM800s that Jose modded, on the tour for the first Blue Murder album. In those Blue Murder live 1989 vids on youtube, you can clearly see a roadcase holding 4 modded JCM800s stacked tall.
You are correct sir! In the article I have John said that he would be using Marshalls live and he used the boogs in the studio. After hearing teh tone he got on the Youtube Vids... Theres something underneath the hood of them Marshalls.. Most likely Joses work :D
 
I also wouldn't be surprised if he tracked a few tracks of teh Marshall and mixed it into the boogie sound.

Maybe Drew will chime in!!
 
Gainfreak":3623d said:
MrDan666":3623d said:
Oh and BTW, im pretty sure he used those JCM800s that Jose modded, on the tour for the first Blue Murder album. In those Blue Murder live 1989 vids on youtube, you can clearly see a roadcase holding 4 modded JCM800s stacked tall.
You are correct sir! In the article I have John said that he would be using Marshalls live and he used the boogs in the studio. After hearing teh tone he got on the Youtube Vids... Theres something underneath the hood of them Marshalls.. Most likely Joses work :D

I wonder if Mark Cameron ever had the chance to see the guts in those Marshalls??

I know Mark is very familiar with all things Jose, so maybe he has an idea??

I agree though, those amps were Rodded to hell. No way were they stock. They must've had a good few gainstages added because Sykes never boosts those ones he still uses now, and they have tons of gain!!
 
Gainfreak[quote="Gainfreak":9b008 said:
Digital Jams":9b008 said:
So I am speaking with my guitar tech and we start yacking about Bradshaw and John Suhr and the conversation moves towards Sykes and what he used for the 87 Whitesnake album.....of course I state MK III Colis and he says no :confused:

He said he met Sykes at NAMM and John stated in the studio it was an early 80s JMP 50 watter.....I just do not hear this though.

He does know his stuff and is a killer guitar man but I aint buying this.

. I have an article with Sykes in an old guitar rag about it being a slaved Boogie and later on it was mentioned that it was the coliseum heads .Its also possible that the album was double tracked a few times and maybe he added a marshall track or two... Who knows!

With that said... If i am wrong and John did use something else... It was a highly modded JMP 50 watter or one using a shitload of boosts because I am familiar as MOFO with the old JMPS and they don't souind like that stock.


Here is the kicker, he said gunned no boost and I flat out said no way was an early 80s marshall getting that kind of grind and upper mid sizzle going unless it was rodded out.[/quote]
Then your tech is either lying or John was ribbing him Bigtime. Ask anyone who has played a cranked JMP with no boost and they will tell you the same thing I am. That tone aint in there..... Early VH maybe but W/S no fucking way unless its modded or using a boost or even using multiple JMP's preamped together.[/quote]

He has been known to get stories backwards and reading Dan this may be the case because my tech said Boogies on the road and Marshalls in the studio...................bet that is it now :D
 
Digital Jams":2fc59 said:
He has been known to get stories backwards and reading Dan this may be the case because my tech said Boogies on the road and Marshalls in the studio...................bet that is it now :D


Had to be bro. There is no way.

Lets do this from a logical perspective. Listen to Live Clips of John before the 87 album was recorded. That's a cranked Marshall Sound with a possible boost or daisy chained to another Marshall. Then listen to his tone after and during the 87 album. Way different tone!!
You can even go back further to Tigers of Pantang. If Sykes could have gotten that tone out of his Marshalls back then, Im sure he would have ;)

Now fast forward to Sykes now that he doesn't use the Boogies..... Way different tone again.
 
MrDan666":5a5da said:
Oh and BTW, im pretty sure he used those JCM800s that Jose modded, on the tour for the first Blue Murder album. In those Blue Murder live 1989 vids on youtube, you can clearly see a roadcase holding 4 modded JCM800s stacked tall.

I saw Blue Murder in a medium sized club and he was using Rectos. There were no Marshalls on stage. This was probably 91 or 92.
 
danyeo":f3dd8 said:
MrDan666":f3dd8 said:
Oh and BTW, im pretty sure he used those JCM800s that Jose modded, on the tour for the first Blue Murder album. In those Blue Murder live 1989 vids on youtube, you can clearly see a roadcase holding 4 modded JCM800s stacked tall.

I saw Blue Murder in a medium sized club and he was using Rectos. There were no Marshalls on stage. This was probably 91 or 92.


I saw him front row in 93-4? in a med sized club touring for the second blue Murder Album and he was using a Recto. it appeared that he was slaving the recto because I saw a rocktron Juice extractor and a VHT poweramp and a Lexicon Pcm70. His tone was Freaking killer but it was not the Blue Murder Boogie sound. If I had to use a description, his tone that night sounded like a rockman on steroids. Total mid hump sustain for days but very different.
 
Gainfreak":8fd09 said:
Digital Jams":8fd09 said:
So I am speaking with my guitar tech and we start yacking about Bradshaw and John Suhr and the conversation moves towards Sykes and what he used for the 87 Whitesnake album.....of course I state MK III Colis and he says no :confused:

He said he met Sykes at NAMM and John stated in the studio it was an early 80s JMP 50 watter.....I just do not hear this though.

He does know his stuff and is a killer guitar man but I aint buying this.

. I have an article with Sykes in an old guitar rag about it being a slaved Boogie. The srticle never mentioned the model and later on it was mentioned on Johns website that it was the coliseum heads .Its also possible that the album was double tracked a few times and maybe he added a marshall track or two... Who knows!

With that said... If i am wrong and John did use something else... It was a highly modded JMP 50 watter or one using a shitload of boosts because I am familiar as MOFO with the old JMPS and they don't souind like that stock.
I was told they did the rhythm tracks (bed tracks) in the States...then because John and David really couldn't get along anymore, John came up here to Toronto to finish the solos for the album. I guy I knew, who worked at 'The 12th Fret' here in Toronto, said he personally brought over a Marshall head and helped John set it up...I don't know how many solos were done with the Marshall on that at CD, but I absolutely believe the guy who told me...and I think his Mesa tone just kills on the rhythm tracks.
 
Gainfreak":60d5b said:
danyeo":60d5b said:
MrDan666":60d5b said:
Oh and BTW, im pretty sure he used those JCM800s that Jose modded, on the tour for the first Blue Murder album. In those Blue Murder live 1989 vids on youtube, you can clearly see a roadcase holding 4 modded JCM800s stacked tall.

I saw Blue Murder in a medium sized club and he was using Rectos. There were no Marshalls on stage. This was probably 91 or 92.


I saw him front row in 93-4? in a med sized club touring for the second blue Murder Album and he was using a Recto. it appeared that he was slving the recto because I saw a rocktron Juice extractor and a VHT poweramp and a Lexicon Pcm70. His tone was Freaking killer but it was not the Blue Murder Boogie sound. If I had to use a description, his tone that night sounded like a rockman on steroids. Total mid hump sustain for days but very different.

AS twisted as I am....I think that rig freaking kills from the looks of it :D
 
Digital Jams":7c4b2 said:
AS twisted as I am....I think that rig freaking kills from the looks of it :D

It was the best recto tone that I have ever heard that sounded nothing like a recto lol :D
 
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