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Aynirar27 said:
It’s easy to “blindly follow” as you would put it something when you understand that many others have spent years or decades scrutinizing it to the Nth degree, and have formed conclusions on it.
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Okay, so whether personal or philosophical difference, we weigh this aspect differently — you more, me less. But while you (they) might be right, you can’t claim they are right because there are many people spending a lot of time scrutinizing it. That would be a logical fallacy. The weighting is also a subjective matter, so you can’t claim your weighting is right and mine wrong. I concede it would be foolish to dismiss what the experts say without investigating it at least, and perhaps foolish to dismiss even then. But the fact is that they could be wrong and/or likewise deceived.
 
japetus said:
I have always wondered how people that believe in the Flat Earth Theory explain Lunar Eclipses
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From what I’ve read, which is a lot, they believe there is a “shadow object” that also floats around whatever it is they believe the sun and moon are in.
And well sometimes it blocks the moon
 
VonBonfire said:
The shape of our world.

Because of our limited visual perspective as humans it's not something you can actually determine with 100 percent accuracy. Every available model has problems with it unless you just say that earth is a realm.
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OK. Earth is a realm :D
 
Aynirar27 said:
From what I’ve read, which is a lot, they believe there is a “shadow object” that also floats around whatever it is they believe the sun and moon are in.
And well sometimes it blocks the moon
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I knew it all along.
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denialist said:
Okay, so whether personal or philosophical difference, we weigh this aspect differently — you more, me less. But while you (they) might be right, you can’t claim they are right because there are many people spending a lot of time scrutinizing it. That would be a logical fallacy. The weighting is also a subjective matter, so you can’t claim your weighting is right and mine wrong. I concede it would be foolish to dismiss what the experts say without investigating it at least, and perhaps foolish to dismiss even then. But the fact is that they could be wrong and/or likewise deceived.
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By scrutinizing it, I mean testing and over again. How many times do you touch the shower before getting in to make sure it’s not too hot? Science “touches the water” thousands of times until it gets repeated, calculable, verifiable results.

There is a ton of theoretical science out there that does not try and hide it. Something like this is pretty simple as far as physics goes though. It’s a safe bet.

It’s ironic that the more you try and learn about something, the more you realize how little we really know about things. When someone can admit they are unsure about something, it makes me more likely to believe them when they say they are sure about something.
Like the James Webb mentioned earlier is changing so much. They are questioning the age of the universe, the size of the universe, how fast it is expanding, almost everything they thought they knew. And they are ok with that because scientists don’t want to be right, they just want to know what is right
 
Aynirar27 said:
How many times do you touch the shower before getting in to make sure it’s not too hot?
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That’s not science btw, that’s just the physical world we live in and experience. Science wants to explain the properties of water and why it may feel hot.
 
denialist said:
Okay, what tests? And don’t say the Cavendish experiment.
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Test for what? I mentioned 3 day to day examples you can experience yourself on why we doing feel the earth moving through space. Are you implying there is another explanation?
 
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