Opinions on deal that went bad. Let me know what you think?

[Ventura]

As just PM'd:

I tried speaking with UPS at length today, and got nowhere, just as you didn't either. I explained to them the whole thing, I basically read them my whole diatribe from the forum thread to keep my facts in order, and she blew me off. She's the store manager, I don't have anywhere to escalate to beyond there. If there's someone you can yell at in UPS HQ, since you're an account holder, we should do that next.

I did explain to her that I'm trying to work out a deal to sell you an additional item, and have other items in the future I will need to ship, and that I won't be using their store if they can't help make this right, and they were unsurprisingly unresponsive.

I can't do $850 shipped - I'm saying let's assume the shipping ends up $50-75 based on the weight, how about we settle at $850 ppgift + shipping, I think that's very equitable for both of us. If you flip the amp, you'll easily recoup the difference we're fighting over now, and if you sell the Bogner Shiva + the cab you bought from me at the price you have it listed, you'll recoup much of your costs on that end as well.

Then phone corporate and tell them the verbal quote given from this lady manager was $40 but in the end, the pricetag was $400. An accurate quote needs to be given in any situation and in this case, she screwed up. Quit mincing about who did what and what the amp should be if its $850 - escalate this error to corporate, tell them that the quote was received verbally. The actual cost was 10x the amount. Error on the part of UPS. Not Brad, not the receiver or the shipper. UPS. Once again, if there is any way to prove that the onus did NOT fall on the shipper, then by default the onus rests upon the outlet and the manager's quote given.

V.

Hey, get anything in the mail yet?

Aw hey, Bro... Nothing yet - but I've not been to my other office yet this week. Damn straight you'll be the first to know as soon as I see whatever the hell it is ya sent.

Thanks again, Braddah!!
V.

 

[ke2]

Guys it's done. I tried ups and got nowhere. Brad told me tonight he will take legal action against me over this if I don't take his offer, based on principle. I have no satisfactory outcome here, so I have to protect my family and get out of this situation as fast as possible. Everyone can think what they want, and I appreciate that one member has already had his account deleted for sticking up for my story, but it doesn't matter anymore. Brad's offer is better than my being out the cash, and he's going to sue me otherwise, so it's done.

The one guy that "stuck up for you" was accusing Brad of trying to rip YOU off. I would hardly consider that to be someone worthy of thanks.

And it was Carl.

He`s been banned 50 times from this, and every other Internet forum.

He had no intentions of helping you, he just wanted to start shit.

 

[King Guitar]

The guy banned was Carl who gets banned every day here.

$850 sent via Pay Pal on the Mesa. Please ship it out today and send the tracking # to me.

Brad

 

[PWE Amplification]

I recently sent a 2x12 cab to a customer in California, he inisted on 2 day air, $550.00. Of course, I got a quote beforehand and he agreed to it. $40 more for air? I wish. If a UPS employee had said that to me I wouldn't believe them. Also, never give anyone your account number unless you know them well. They can't do much with it other than use the wrong service which can cost you plenty. I had a company send me a small package of tubes and parts and they decided to overnight it even though I requested ground. Ended up costing me $300.00 instead of $60.00, never did business with them again.

 

[marvcus]

Guys it's done. I tried ups and got nowhere. Brad told me tonight he will take legal action against me over this if I don't take his offer, based on principle. I have no satisfactory outcome here, so I have to protect my family and get out of this situation as fast as possible. Everyone can think what they want, and I appreciate that one member has already had his account deleted for sticking up for my story, but it doesn't matter anymore. Brad's offer is better than my being out the cash, and he's going to sue me otherwise, so it's done.

You need to be more assertive with UPS. If you really felt like you were misled and $400 is involved, you need to stand up for what you believe.

1. Brad posts he wants a cabinet.
2. You have a cabinet and offer your cab for a price to Brad.
3. Brad accepts your offer and pays you $$ with the caveat that you ship ground.
4. You package the cab, go to the UPS store with good intentions.
5. UPS tells you they cannot ship ground. They offer another solution.
6. YOU ACCEPT THE ALTERNATIVE SOLUTION OFFERED FROM UPS.
7. Brad is out the $$$ on his account and you have breached the original deal.
8. You do not want to repay/cure the defect in the deal because you feel UPS cheated you.

Therein is your issue. Unfortunately, even with good intentions, you accepted the UPS deal without checking with Brad first. Fight it with UPS. If not, that is your $400 mistake - accept the consequences of the mistake, chalk it up to a lesson learned, and move on with your life.

 

[Spaceboy]

This is too much stink for what is really a simple situation.

 

[Mailman1971]

The guy banned was Carl who gets banned every day here.

Thats the same guy that claims his "Man boobs" are lactating??

I really wouldn't want him to be on my side. Dont think his word means shit around here or anywhere.

 

[prsdiezel]

Guys it's done. I tried ups and got nowhere. Brad told me tonight he will take legal action against me over this if I don't take his offer, based on principle. I have no satisfactory outcome here, so I have to protect my family and get out of this situation as fast as possible. Everyone can think what they want, and I appreciate that one member has already had his account deleted for sticking up for my story, but it doesn't matter anymore. Brad's offer is better than my being out the cash, and he's going to sue me otherwise, so it's done.

WOW $400 shipping

Look the UPS store isn't owned by UPS. Those are "franchises" privately owned. They can charge what ever they want. Or sya what ever they want. Call 1-800-UPS they will tell you this!!!

You made a mistake and now because of your ignorance it cost the buyer in this case 'Brad"$400. I don't care if it is Brad you messed up. You didn't follow terms of the binding verbal/email contract. Anyone in there right mind knows shipping a 2x12 "2 day Air" is going to be outrages"

Now.......Brad will buy your amp that no one else was going to buy for $1250 anyway. Can you say "bad economy"
to resolve this. I would make things right if it was me. Be the the bigger man and except the action for your $400 mistake.

Then I would ship the amp and not "2 day air" at a real "UPS HUB" and be thankful. Next time grow up and have some common sense about things.

really??!!

 

[King Guitar]

Mesa was shipped today via FedEx Ground. As long as it shows up and is as described we will be cool and I will be locking this thread. Anybody wanna buy a boogie electro dyne?

 

[Mailman1971]

Mesa was shipped today via FedEx Ground. As long as it shows up and is as described we will be cool and I will be locking this thread. Anybody wanna buy a boogie electro dyne?

Will you ship 2nd day air?


Sorry man........couldnt resist!

 

[prsdiezel]

well thats good to hear Brad.

Not exactly how you thought the deal for a bogner 2x12 would go down but.....

And way to make things right sdhupelia.

Alot of people will respect you on Rig -talk more for making things right

 

[King Guitar]

by the way I traded the cab today as I didnt want to look at it after all the drama.

 

[Hollywood]

by the way I traded the cab today as I didnt want to look at it after all the drama.

That is very understandable..........considering.

 

[prsdiezel]

by the way I traded the cab today as I didnt want to look at it after all the drama.

That is very understandable..........considering.

should of just order a brand new one from Bogner for the price + shipping

 

[the rossness]

The seller is at fault. If he couldn't ship it for the agreed upon price, he should have offered you a refund or should have paid the difference. Once in a while when I ship international, I have to pay a little more than the agreed upon price if the item requires it. In either case, he should have contacted you first and let you know there was a problem and discussed solutions with you.

In any case, I'd contact UPS. If You did not authorize that form of shipping they can't charge you for something just because someone ships you something with you're account number.

 

[Metlupass2]

What ever happend with this? Did you get the amp?

I actually bought something in person from sdhupelia and it went smoothly.

 

[King Guitar]

All finally worked out and the SDhupelia made it right.