OT: Getting my life together

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Szar":1shjzp8w said:
And if you are crazy....there is always EOD. \:D/

20/20 vision needed and just passing the color test tells me he would be better off doing something else :lol: :LOL:

Hung with those guys whiole I was in San Diego, fun bunch :thumbsup:
 
You may get to ride in the new Raptor. Have not seen one yet, but read a lot about them. My dad worked on F-4's in the Air Force, and was on the development team who built the prototype F-15's. Great stuff, congrats, and thank you for serving your country :rock: :rock:
 
Vultures, have to agree with Scott/DJ on this one, the weapons/armament tech sounds cool, but to pick up some job skills I'd definately go for the crew chief/mechanic MOS. The availability for cross training means not only will you do airframe work, but power plant/turbine, avionics and electronics, and a slew of other stuff. Pick up your A&P license (airframe and powerplant) and you have some awesome credentials for the outside world later on. Additionally, a lot of that stuff transfers over to college credit. So, if you're interested in aviation, yes, go with mechanic/crew chief, and if they don't give you what you want, WALK AWAY from signing anything, they will find a way to make it work for you if you tested as well as you say you did. Be sure to look at which airframe you want to work on; F-16 is easily the prettiest, but there is more gee-whiz shit on the 22 or 15; JSF should be coming on-line soon, so inquire about that as well. Was a crew chief for UH-60s in the Army for a few years ;).
 
congrats dude. all the respect in the world for our soldiers, you just earned mine fo sho. :thumbsup:
 
grooveHT":2txpc3bg said:
Vultures, have to agree with Scott/DJ on this one, the weapons/armament tech sounds cool, but to pick up some job skills I'd definately go for the crew chief/mechanic MOS. The availability for cross training means not only will you do airframe work, but power plant/turbine, avionics and electronics, and a slew of other stuff. Pick up your A&P license (airframe and powerplant) and you have some awesome credentials for the outside world later on. Additionally, a lot of that stuff transfers over to college credit. So, if you're interested in aviation, yes, go with mechanic/crew chief, and if they don't give you what you want, WALK AWAY from signing anything, they will find a way to make it work for you if you tested as well as you say you did. Be sure to look at which airframe you want to work on; F-16 is easily the prettiest, but there is more gee-whiz shit on the 22 or 15; JSF should be coming on-line soon, so inquire about that as well. Was a crew chief for UH-60s in the Army for a few years ;).

Great advice dude, thanks! I'll definitely ask about the A&P license, really important to pick up all certifications/degrees/licenses when you can. And I'm definitely not signing until I'm satisfied, the Sgt who got me into this told me "Don't sign until you get every single thing they say in writing". How was your experience as crew chief? Were you assigned solo or with a team?


I'm looking at some pictures, I'm gonna have to know what every single one of these things mean :shocked:
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At least you would be tweaking a fighter plane instead of the Mark IV! :rock:

Congrats bro!
 
VoodooChild24":17io2ouk said:
At least you would be tweaking a fighter plane instead of the Mark IV! :rock:

Congrats bro!

Welcome to the brotherhood.

Of all the opportunities in the Air Force, My vote:

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vultures":ufiq6qvb said:
grooveHT":ufiq6qvb said:
Vultures, have to agree with Scott/DJ on this one, the weapons/armament tech sounds cool, but to pick up some job skills I'd definately go for the crew chief/mechanic MOS. The availability for cross training means not only will you do airframe work, but power plant/turbine, avionics and electronics, and a slew of other stuff. Pick up your A&P license (airframe and powerplant) and you have some awesome credentials for the outside world later on. Additionally, a lot of that stuff transfers over to college credit. So, if you're interested in aviation, yes, go with mechanic/crew chief, and if they don't give you what you want, WALK AWAY from signing anything, they will find a way to make it work for you if you tested as well as you say you did. Be sure to look at which airframe you want to work on; F-16 is easily the prettiest, but there is more gee-whiz shit on the 22 or 15; JSF should be coming on-line soon, so inquire about that as well. Was a crew chief for UH-60s in the Army for a few years ;).

Great advice dude, thanks! I'll definitely ask about the A&P license, really important to pick up all certifications/degrees/licenses when you can. And I'm definitely not signing until I'm satisfied, the Sgt who got me into this told me "Don't sign until you get every single thing they say in writing". How was your experience as crew chief? Were you assigned solo or with a team?


I'm looking at some pictures, I'm gonna have to know what every single one of these things mean :shocked:
F-16_Cockpit.jpg

Vultures, life in Army Aviation functions a little differently than that in the Air Force, of course our organization is a little different, but on our H-60's, crew chiefs get to fly as well; if that appeals to you, definately look into the rotary wing field as Air Force has dedicated flight engineer types that fly along with the pilots, manning mini-guns and performing flight duties, not a bad gig at all! If the maintenance side of the house appeals to you more, definately put in to be a crew chief/mechanic with an eye towards what you might want to work on down the road; if you want to get out and do airline work, any maintenance experience would be a huge bonus, but particularly on the heavies, or if you like rotary wing, put in for H-60s or 53s. The AF spares no expense on their helo fleet, so there's plenty of awesome stuff to be found there as well.

To answer you question, I was in various flight companies, where the crew chiefs performed flight duties and certain maintenance tasks. There were higher levels of maintenance where the bigger jobs were pulled by dedicated mechanics who didn't fly; the flight crews performed daily tasks, preflights, went off to fly, then post-flight and servicing. It's not quite analogous in the AF, but similar.

Like Thump has told you, get every iota in writing, including GI Bill, bonuses, any training that they may promise you as far as extra schools, whatever. If it isn't to you liking, don't sign your life away to a job you're not happy with, I've seen too many folks go that way. For sure, don't let the MEPS guy pressure you into a job THEY want to fill, they have shortages they need to get filled; think diner owner when they tell waiters to "push the fish" and you get the idea. And for my own full court press, go here: http://www.guncopter.com/

If you have any more questions I can help with, please let me know!

Jeff
 
Fiesta Red":2ice9hru said:
Digital Jams":2ice9hru said:
Welcome to the military family man :thumbsup: Former E6 Electronics Tech Navy.


Heeeeyyyy!!!!

I worked on the Looking Glass EC-135s in the Air Force. I believe it was the Navy E-6s that took over our mission shortly after I got my commission and got out.

Small world.

:thumbsup:
 
vultures":aw4pylyk said:
Hey guys, been a while since I posted anything serious, but I'm just so excited about what's been going on. I lost 15-20 pounds healthy, getting back into good shape and I'm joining the Air Force :D

I didn't know how well I'd do, but I scored really high on the testing and just went through MEPS today. Man, I cannot even begin to express the sheer excitement for the opportunities/experiences and jobs I have open to me. I NEVER thought I'd score so well for the Air Force, but I studied, put my mind to it and did it!

So far I'm stuck between 3 really great jobs; Tactical Air Command and Control, F-16 Crew Chief/Tactical Aircraft Maint. or other select jobs working with the munitions/armaments of the fighters. The recruiter put these and a list of others in front of me and I was BLOWN away. I cannot believe the responsibilities/training/opportunities that have been put in front of me.

I've always wanted to join the Armed Services, but was always too nervous or didn't think I'd cut it. But now, I think I've taken the right path.

Sorry if this is a "brag" post, but I feel like I've finally found a REAL direction in my life, and I have to share it. Anyone who's curious about armed services, study up and give the test a shot.. you just never know what will happen. :D

Send me an email if you want any questions answered. I am in the Air Force and I have been in for 26 years. I have worked F4, F16, C141, and C5 aircraft. I am a Jet Engine Technican and I know alot about aircraft maintenance. My daughter is in the Air Force and is an Air Traffic Controller stationed in Vegas. I have been every where in the world. I have been as far North as Greenland and as far South as Antartica. Joining the AF is one of the best decisions I have ever made. Questions are great. Ask away. bdrobinegg@aol.com
 
Thanks for all the great advice guys! :rock:

grooveHT":jjct80s4 said:
For sure, don't let the MEPS guy pressure you into a job THEY want to fill, they have shortages they need to get filled; think diner owner when they tell waiters to "push the fish" and you get the idea. And for my own full court press, go here: http://www.guncopter.com

Oh man, I don't have to worry about that. I got out of MEPS and met up with my recruiter ASAP. I've got this really great recruiter, bending over backwards for me. He's taking me down an hour out of the way to check out the other base. The thing is about these jobs, they DO need people to fill them, but they're offering me a $20k bonus, college credits for training and automatic rank up to E-3 as soon as I get out of training among other things. If I don't want these jobs I've got others, but the Crew Chief sounds too good to pass up :)

SgtThump":jjct80s4 said:
Hey man, CONGRATS! I went in the Air Force when I was 21 (older than most) and stayed for 6-years. It was THE best career decision I ever made. I made other decisions during that time that really helped me out in the long run.

Keep in mind that even though the Air Force Basic Training is probably the easiest of all the branches (I think it's changed to be harder physically, though), it's still very stressful. There's still tons of pressure. I don't care who you are or how prepared you are, you will absolutely lay in bed that first week and ask yourself why in the hell you did this. I've seen big tough grown men break down crying when they called their family for the first time (after a week or so.) It's the stress.

After a week or two, you get into the groove and even though it sucks, it's no longer a huge deal. It also feels like you're there for 10 years, but it's really only weeks (how long is it now?) And if you ever question why the heck you did this, just think about the future. The rest of the Air Force is NOTHING like Basic Training, so the grass is absolutely greener on the other side.

As other said, don't raise your hand or even talk in Basic Training unless you're spoken to first. They will ask who has drivers license and those that raise their hand will get trash duty or something crazy like that. lol! Just sit there quietly and don't do a thing but what you're told. Also, do EXACTLY as you're told. NO MORE! That's a test. They want you to follow directions EXACTLY. Don't think "I'm sure he meant this too" or anything like that. lol! It's a TARP!

Absolutely go into a job that translates to skills on the outside. My advice? Go into anything related to Information Technology. No, it's not cool like the jobs you mentioned. But believe me, there's tons of money to be made in the IT fields and you will set yourself up very well in the future if you go that route. Really...

The military is a great experience for everyone. I think you made a great decision! And no matter what the tough guys in the other branches say, you'll be VERY happy you joined the AIR FORCE after you see the crap they go through. Everything is better in the Air Force UNLESS you want to kill people. lol... The food is better, the dorms are better, the bases are nicer, the living conditions even in wartime are better, etc, etc, etc...

But yeah, if you want to crawl through mud, learn hand-to-hand combat, and kill people, go elsewhere. If you want to be taken care of, join the AF. :thumbsup:

Also, I think that "Tactical Air Command and Control" used to be called "TAC-P" or something. That's alot of physical training, similar to special forces stuff. I think so anyway. So if you're not into that stuff, don't go that route.

Keep in mind that I was in from Jan 1994 to Dec 1999, so things could have changed alot since then.

But anyway, GOOD LUCK AND GREAT DECISION!!!!

I'm 21 too, it was a little weird in MEPS being around people 17-18, but it wasn't too bad. They say basic is 8 weeks now and a piece of cake, but I'm working my ass off right now to get in great shape for it. This is a huge opportunity, so I'm gonna try my best to SUCK IT UP and deal with all the pressure. Thanks for the advice, I try to be an over-achiever to impress people, but I'll be sure to just do as told. I'll definitely look into the IT fields too

Ben Dover":jjct80s4 said:
Send me an email if you want any questions answered. I am in the Air Force and I have been in for 26 years. I have worked F4, F16, C141, and C5 aircraft. I am a Jet Engine Technican and I know alot about aircraft maintenance. My daughter is in the Air Force and is an Air Traffic Controller stationed in Vegas. I have been every where in the world. I have been as far North as Greenland and as far South as Antartica. Joining the AF is one of the best decisions I have ever made. Questions are great. Ask away. bdrobinegg@aol.com

I've got a bunch of questions, I'll send you an email sometime tonight :salute:
 
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