Ozzy - Shot In The Dark - Jimmy Kimmel Live

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[Marshall Freak]

Really good performance, but I don't like the guitar tone very well, especially the lead tone. It sounds like he's fighting it, particularly at the end IMHO. I need to listen to it on something besides my laptop, but I don't think that's it.

 

[crwnedblasphemy]

Wall of Blackstars huh? :

 

[gbsmusic]

It looks like he's reading every line anymore. I love Ozzy so much but man he's showing his age. He still sounds pretty good though.

 

[Gainfreak]

This video should be stickied on this site for all the people here who stress out over amp tone and live playing blah blah blah. This is a typical example of a horrid tone with no sustain and what can happen live IMHO. Notice I said my opinion but given the fact of how many great amps there are out now and the amount of information, that tone stunk IMHO.
Ive heard better live tones comming from most of the guys here and I have most definitely heard better live tones comming from the axe-fx which seems to take a beating here sometimes. My words are in no way meant to bag on Gus or promote the axe. I just wanted to point out that there are so many variables to getting a good tone and sometimes I think we all get lost in the debate and facts get lost in the heat of the argument

 

[jerrydyer]

I remember meeting the blackstar guys a few years back when they were unknown. Congrats. I wish I had a marketing team and money. Cool guys, one of them has one of my t shirts from an amp show back a few years. I heard those amps in person at the show they sounded way better.

 

[Gainfreak]

I remember meeting the blackstar guys a few years back when they were unknown. Congrats. I wish I had a marketing team and money. Cool guys, one of them has one of my t shirts from an amp show back a few years. I heard those amps in person at the show they sounded way better.

Yeah, That's kind of what Im getting at. I'm pretty sure that those amps do sound better then that but you never know what's going to happen Live!! I'm just saying that sometime we stress so much on tone or Amp models vs real amp etc etc that it get's pointless because most of the time no one can predict what it's going to sound like once it hit's the PA unless you can control a lot of variables!!

 

[Gainfreak]

I remember meeting the blackstar guys a few years back when they were unknown. Congrats. I wish I had a marketing team and money. Cool guys, one of them has one of my t shirts from an amp show back a few years. I heard those amps in person at the show they sounded way better.

Yeah, That's kind of what Im getting at. I'm pretty sure that those amps do sound better then that but you never know what's going to happen Live!! I'm just saying that sometime we stress so much on tone or Amp models vs real amp etc etc that it get's pointless because most of the time no one can predict what it's going to sound like once it hit's the PA unless you can control a lot of variables!!

and also with you....memorex vocals.

We lift up our hearts and we lift the vocal tracks off of the tape!!

 

[mrp5150]

So weird seeing Gus G. as his guitarist.

 

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I just wanted to point out that there are so many variables to getting a good tone and sometimes I think we all get lost in the debate and facts get lost in the heat of the argument

Well Ralphie, I'll just say this - a large portion of the people listening to this round here or elsewhere need to invest in a quality listening source as much as they invest in their guitars and amps because I think its ridiculous that defacto good "tone" is judged by whats coming out of a massive 2" computer speaker. 99% of the time what you're hearing through the God Box speakers is not what it sounds like to the guy playing or the audience -we all (I hope) can agree on that. Listen back to that fully produced clip again - do you hear the faded in and out applause track ??? gimme a break. Does dudes mix in the edited clip sound thin and weak? yep. Does it sound like what it did on that stage? highly unlikely. Anymore I put zero faith in clips for judging what something will actually be like in person, like you said "too many variables"...so in the end I agree with appx 62.3% of your post

 

[fickle]

I have always liked Gus G... I think its cool he is playing with Ozzy now.

 

[Jeff Hilligan]

holy lip sync!

 

[Marshall Freak]

I just wanted to point out that there are so many variables to getting a good tone and sometimes I think we all get lost in the debate and facts get lost in the heat of the argument

Well Ralphie, I'll just say this - a large portion of the people listening to this round here or elsewhere need to invest in a quality listening source as much as they invest in their guitars and amps because I think its ridiculous that defacto good "tone" is judged by whats coming out of a massive 2" computer speaker. 99% of the time what you're hearing through the God Box speakers is not what it sounds like to the guy playing or the audience -we all (I hope) can agree on that. Listen back to that fully produced clip again - do you hear the faded in and out applause track ??? gimme a break. Does dudes mix in the edited clip sound thin and weak? yep. Does it sound like what it did on that stage? highly unlikely. Anymore I put zero faith in clips for judging what something will actually be like in person, like you said "too many variables"...so in the end I agree with appx 62.3% of your post

I disagree with some of that, because you can hear him fighting it, losing sustain, and not able to hold out harmonics etc. That was on stage too.

 

[Anonymous]

why does Ozzy keep playing this horrid song?!?!

 

[gibson5413]

Wow, is he a shell of his former self or what? Staring down at a teleprompter for the words and looking as wooden as Keanu Reeves when he claps his hands. I prefer to remember Ozzy from the early to mid 80s. Gus is a great player but his tone does stink. I think I saw him in an ad in Guitar World pimping the Blackstar amps. I don't have an opinion since I haven't played one but he calls it the best metal tone ever.

Personally, I would love to see Jake doing this but it will never happen.

 

[ke2]

Lip syncing..?

He`s singing out of key, do they record a track where he sings flat in some parts, and then reproduce it as "live" singing?

But yes, the guitar tone is bad.

 

[Gainfreak]

I just wanted to point out that there are so many variables to getting a good tone and sometimes I think we all get lost in the debate and facts get lost in the heat of the argument

Well Ralphie, I'll just say this - a large portion of the people listening to this round here or elsewhere need to invest in a quality listening source as much as they invest in their guitars and amps because I think its ridiculous that defacto good "tone" is judged by whats coming out of a massive 2" computer speaker. 99% of the time what you're hearing through the God Box speakers is not what it sounds like to the guy playing or the audience -we all (I hope) can agree on that. Listen back to that fully produced clip again - do you hear the faded in and out applause track ??? gimme a break. Does dudes mix in the edited clip sound thin and weak? yep. Does it sound like what it did on that stage? highly unlikely. Anymore I put zero faith in clips for judging what something will actually be like in person, like you said "too many variables"...so in the end I agree with appx 62.3% of your post

62.3% is still more then 50% so I'll take it. One of the points I'm making is that a lot of people will stress out looking for gear or cut down a piece of equipment but in the end... when It comes to a live gig...Anything can happen and just because you have the biggest and baddest gear in some cases it wont make a difference once it hits the PA lol

On another arguement, even though that performance was highly tampered with It still sounded like shit and the guitar cut out when he was playing. Odds are it didn't sound any better live. That's my story and I'm sticking to it

 

[ke2]

I just wanted to point out that there are so many variables to getting a good tone and sometimes I think we all get lost in the debate and facts get lost in the heat of the argument

Well Ralphie, I'll just say this - a large portion of the people listening to this round here or elsewhere need to invest in a quality listening source as much as they invest in their guitars and amps because I think its ridiculous that defacto good "tone" is judged by whats coming out of a massive 2" computer speaker. 99% of the time what you're hearing through the God Box speakers is not what it sounds like to the guy playing or the audience -we all (I hope) can agree on that. Listen back to that fully produced clip again - do you hear the faded in and out applause track ??? gimme a break. Does dudes mix in the edited clip sound thin and weak? yep. Does it sound like what it did on that stage? highly unlikely. Anymore I put zero faith in clips for judging what something will actually be like in person, like you said "too many variables"...so in the end I agree with appx 62.3% of your post

62.3% is still more then 50% so I'll take it. One of the points I'm making is that a lot of people will stress out looking for gear or cut down a piece of equipment but in the end... when It comes to a live gig...Anything can happen and just because you have the biggest and baddest gear in some cases it wont make a difference once it hits the PA lol

On another arguement, even though that performance was highly tampered with It still sounded like shit and the guitar cut out when he was playing. Odds are it didn't sound any better live. That's my story and I'm sticking to it

There`s hardly any sustain at all. It was the same with the "Scream"-performance on Kimmel. I guess the sound wasn`t "all that" on stage either He would`ve been better off with a JCM 800 and a ts-9...

 

[XSSIVE]

he's freakin' 61 years old, just be thankful his vision is good enough to read the damn promter. let's not forget all the damn drugs he's done, it's amazing he's still standing upright and able to sing at all. i give him major props for going out there putting on an entertaining show and enjoying himself because he always does seem to have fun on stage.

as for the tone and playing, no one does Jake's songs like he did and that's that, not Zakk or Gus or anyone else i've heard play them.

-Mike

 

[Gainfreak]

I just wanted to point out that there are so many variables to getting a good tone and sometimes I think we all get lost in the debate and facts get lost in the heat of the argument

Well Ralphie, I'll just say this - a large portion of the people listening to this round here or elsewhere need to invest in a quality listening source as much as they invest in their guitars and amps because I think its ridiculous that defacto good "tone" is judged by whats coming out of a massive 2" computer speaker. 99% of the time what you're hearing through the God Box speakers is not what it sounds like to the guy playing or the audience -we all (I hope) can agree on that. Listen back to that fully produced clip again - do you hear the faded in and out applause track ??? gimme a break. Does dudes mix in the edited clip sound thin and weak? yep. Does it sound like what it did on that stage? highly unlikely. Anymore I put zero faith in clips for judging what something will actually be like in person, like you said "too many variables"...so in the end I agree with appx 62.3% of your post

62.3% is still more then 50% so I'll take it. One of the points I'm making is that a lot of people will stress out looking for gear or cut down a piece of equipment but in the end... when It comes to a live gig...Anything can happen and just because you have the biggest and baddest gear in some cases it wont make a difference once it hits the PA lol

On another arguement, even though that performance was highly tampered with It still sounded like shit and the guitar cut out when he was playing. Odds are it didn't sound any better live. That's my story and I'm sticking to it

There`s hardly any sustain at all. It was the same with the "Scream"-performance on Kimmel. I guess the sound wasn`t "all that" on stage either He would`ve been better off with a JCM 800 and a ts-9...

Shows like Kimmel are recorded in advance and they usually air the same day so there is little time to re-record..so Odds are they used what the Mic captured.
It has been my experiance that when they tamper with a live show in post they try and make everything sound better but I guess in this case it was the best they coulld do