Peavey Invective Review

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Badronald":343z8dhy said:
dooredge":343z8dhy said:
I love all iterations of the Peavey 5150/6505/6534... that said, I hear nothing here that say's, "I gotta have that!!!" None of the videos to date have had any gas-inducing effects. Not that I need another amp, but I'd have to be in the room with one to really know if the tone is worth the price tag.

I think it sounds great but as long as I can pick up a NOS/clean 6505+ on CL for $600 - $700 I really can't find a reason to spend $1,900. :aww:


It's not really a fair comparison between the used price of one amp to the new price of another... :dunno:
 
jsp":2sfkmai5 said:
Badronald":2sfkmai5 said:
dooredge":2sfkmai5 said:
I love all iterations of the Peavey 5150/6505/6534... that said, I hear nothing here that say's, "I gotta have that!!!" None of the videos to date have had any gas-inducing effects. Not that I need another amp, but I'd have to be in the room with one to really know if the tone is worth the price tag.

I think it sounds great but as long as I can pick up a NOS/clean 6505+ on CL for $600 - $700 I really can't find a reason to spend $1,900. :aww:


It's not really a fair comparison between the used price of one amp to the new price of another... :dunno:

when the new thing is only offering an exceedingly expensive noise gate and a few mods by the sounds of it. (will re-iterate, that i do want to hear it under proper conditions and proper players fingers, but its price tag for what i see is a turn off for the interest)

ok, lets give it another perspective. $3000 cdn can get me a std edition JP2C. Its more expensive than pretty much every other boogie amp

1000$ cdn can get you a 5150/6505 + a XXX + a peavy cab on the used market. Add 100$ for a noise gate and that will give you what i hear from the demo if you get a stereo peavy cab...

I just simply don't understand the reasoning behind the marketing position atleast in canada
 
eternal_idol":1liqlq10 said:
jsp":1liqlq10 said:
Badronald":1liqlq10 said:
dooredge":1liqlq10 said:
I love all iterations of the Peavey 5150/6505/6534... that said, I hear nothing here that say's, "I gotta have that!!!" None of the videos to date have had any gas-inducing effects. Not that I need another amp, but I'd have to be in the room with one to really know if the tone is worth the price tag.

I think it sounds great but as long as I can pick up a NOS/clean 6505+ on CL for $600 - $700 I really can't find a reason to spend $1,900. :aww:


It's not really a fair comparison between the used price of one amp to the new price of another... :dunno:

when the new thing is only offering an exceedingly expensive noise gate and a few mods by the sounds of it. (will re-iterate, that i do want to hear it under proper conditions and proper players fingers, but its price tag for what i see is a turn off for the interest)

ok, lets give it another perspective. $3000 cdn can get me a std edition JP2C. Its more expensive than pretty much every other boogie amp

1000$ cdn can get you a 5150/6505 + a XXX + a peavy cab on the used market. Add 100$ for a noise gate and that will give you what i hear from the demo if you get a stereo peavy cab...

I just simply don't understand the reasoning behind the marketing position atleast in canada


First of all, you're still comparing new price to used price. In today's market, just about all non-boutique amps have horrible resale value, which itself makes up a big part of the discrepancy. With 3 channels including a good clean channel, and footswitchable boost, a more fair comparison is between a new Invective and a new 5150III, in which case the price is pretty competitive, in the US at least. If you consider that the Peavey actually has more switchability, and is made in the US, it's actually not a bad deal at all.
 
Petty I know, but I wish they had got with a more modern take on the Peavey logo on the amp. It really throws off the look the amp has going for it with that God awful logo.
 
jsp":1m3m1qfa said:
eternal_idol":1m3m1qfa said:
jsp":1m3m1qfa said:
Badronald":1m3m1qfa said:
dooredge":1m3m1qfa said:
I love all iterations of the Peavey 5150/6505/6534... that said, I hear nothing here that say's, "I gotta have that!!!" None of the videos to date have had any gas-inducing effects. Not that I need another amp, but I'd have to be in the room with one to really know if the tone is worth the price tag.

I think it sounds great but as long as I can pick up a NOS/clean 6505+ on CL for $600 - $700 I really can't find a reason to spend $1,900. :aww:


It's not really a fair comparison between the used price of one amp to the new price of another... :dunno:

when the new thing is only offering an exceedingly expensive noise gate and a few mods by the sounds of it. (will re-iterate, that i do want to hear it under proper conditions and proper players fingers, but its price tag for what i see is a turn off for the interest)

ok, lets give it another perspective. $3000 cdn can get me a std edition JP2C. Its more expensive than pretty much every other boogie amp

1000$ cdn can get you a 5150/6505 + a XXX + a peavy cab on the used market. Add 100$ for a noise gate and that will give you what i hear from the demo if you get a stereo peavy cab...

I just simply don't understand the reasoning behind the marketing position atleast in canada


First of all, you're still comparing new price to used price. In today's market, just about all non-boutique amps have horrible resale value, which itself makes up a big part of the discrepancy. With 3 channels including a good clean channel, and footswitchable boost, a more fair comparison is between a new Invective and a new 5150III, in which case the price is pretty competitive, in the US at least. If you consider that the Peavey actually has more switchability, and is made in the US, it's actually not a bad deal at all.

3000$ cdn for a Standard Ed. JP2C IS the new price. a Mk.V with all the bells and whistles just under 2800$ Canadian... again ALL NEW.

ok, so you want new options... new 6505 1200$ CDN. 6505+ 1350$ new, 6535+ 1590$ new. new Invective ~$3000 unless the guy that gave me the price included the cab when i asked about the head specifically

can't remember if the non + has a foot-switchable crunch switch, but i know the last two do.

the reason USED is still a concern here, it due to this same basic package being sold since what 92/93? there are SOOO MANY of these bloody amps that have been sold and are available on the used market. some under slightly different guises

as for the 5153 comparison, which version? as i see most (not all )but most V.1 head owners looking to sell for the better featured 50W version if they are still into the amp. first two channels on both amps sound entirely different while the lead channel shares the initial 5150 lead channel with tweaks. and if you are looking for the amp purely for the lead channel which the vast majority will be looking at then the old amps will still be an option simply on value. this new amp isn't offering ENOUGH over what the old ones offer. kinda gives me the vibe of the 3120 amp they had for a few years re-branded and maybe slightly tweaked. correct me if i'm wrong but they were in the range of the 6535+'s price.

where its made is pretty irrelevant, one machine vs another machine, the machines are VERY likely from the same places. where the person is located doing the finishing work doesn't dictate the quality of the worker.

what I'm saying, in the price range there are MUCH better options for versatility, and there are MANY MANY options for the aggressiveness. be it boogie, PRS, Randalls (the Fortin ones)

Like i said i still do want to hear a Proper review. but the price tag that mirrors another posters inquired price, and having it sound like something you can get for much less NEW or USED in this basic form doesn't scream deal to me, Unless I was a Periphery fan.



Still sounds like a 5150/6505 to me, less XXX sounding under Misha's hands.
 
jsp":36couf2y said:
Badronald":36couf2y said:
dooredge":36couf2y said:
I love all iterations of the Peavey 5150/6505/6534... that said, I hear nothing here that say's, "I gotta have that!!!" None of the videos to date have had any gas-inducing effects. Not that I need another amp, but I'd have to be in the room with one to really know if the tone is worth the price tag.

I think it sounds great but as long as I can pick up a NOS/clean 6505+ on CL for $600 - $700 I really can't find a reason to spend $1,900. :aww:


It's not really a fair comparison between the used price of one amp to the new price of another... :dunno:

I understand what you're saying. The point I was trying to verbalize is if a 6505+ sounds no worse than an Invective which makes more sense? The 6505+, in my mind. Point being, I *personally* haven't been excited by anything I've heard. Definitely not saying others can't feel exactly the opposite of what I'm spouting.

All in all, if I can pay $650 for 6505+ that sounds no worse or marginally better than a $1900 Invective, the math makes it a pretty easy choice. It's all subjective poo anyway and I'm flinging mine around for the heck of it. :D
 
"Designed and Engineered in the USA," clarifies it for me. :confused:
I don't care, really. Hell I own EVH made in Mexico. But I just don't like fishy words. Lol
 
Would love to know where to get a jp2c for 3000cad. For real where are they selling that cheap?

eternal_idol":fo9fxxz2 said:
jsp":fo9fxxz2 said:
eternal_idol":fo9fxxz2 said:
jsp":fo9fxxz2 said:
Badronald":fo9fxxz2 said:
dooredge":fo9fxxz2 said:
I love all iterations of the Peavey 5150/6505/6534... that said, I hear nothing here that say's, "I gotta have that!!!" None of the videos to date have had any gas-inducing effects. Not that I need another amp, but I'd have to be in the room with one to really know if the tone is worth the price tag.

I think it sounds great but as long as I can pick up a NOS/clean 6505+ on CL for $600 - $700 I really can't find a reason to spend $1,900. :aww:


It's not really a fair comparison between the used price of one amp to the new price of another... :dunno:

when the new thing is only offering an exceedingly expensive noise gate and a few mods by the sounds of it. (will re-iterate, that i do want to hear it under proper conditions and proper players fingers, but its price tag for what i see is a turn off for the interest)

ok, lets give it another perspective. $3000 cdn can get me a std edition JP2C. Its more expensive than pretty much every other boogie amp

1000$ cdn can get you a 5150/6505 + a XXX + a peavy cab on the used market. Add 100$ for a noise gate and that will give you what i hear from the demo if you get a stereo peavy cab...

I just simply don't understand the reasoning behind the marketing position atleast in canada


First of all, you're still comparing new price to used price. In today's market, just about all non-boutique amps have horrible resale value, which itself makes up a big part of the discrepancy. With 3 channels including a good clean channel, and footswitchable boost, a more fair comparison is between a new Invective and a new 5150III, in which case the price is pretty competitive, in the US at least. If you consider that the Peavey actually has more switchability, and is made in the US, it's actually not a bad deal at all.

3000$ cdn for a Standard Ed. JP2C IS the new price. a Mk.V with all the bells and whistles just under 2800$ Canadian... again ALL NEW.

ok, so you want new options... new 6505 1200$ CDN. 6505+ 1350$ new, 6535+ 1590$ new. new Invective ~$3000 unless the guy that gave me the price included the cab when i asked about the head specifically

can't remember if the non + has a foot-switchable crunch switch, but i know the last two do.

the reason USED is still a concern here, it due to this same basic package being sold since what 92/93? there are SOOO MANY of these bloody amps that have been sold and are available on the used market. some under slightly different guises

as for the 5153 comparison, which version? as i see most (not all )but most V.1 head owners looking to sell for the better featured 50W version if they are still into the amp. first two channels on both amps sound entirely different while the lead channel shares the initial 5150 lead channel with tweaks. and if you are looking for the amp purely for the lead channel which the vast majority will be looking at then the old amps will still be an option simply on value. this new amp isn't offering ENOUGH over what the old ones offer. kinda gives me the vibe of the 3120 amp they had for a few years re-branded and maybe slightly tweaked. correct me if i'm wrong but they were in the range of the 6535+'s price.

where its made is pretty irrelevant, one machine vs another machine, the machines are VERY likely from the same places. where the person is located doing the finishing work doesn't dictate the quality of the worker.

what I'm saying, in the price range there are MUCH better options for versatility, and there are MANY MANY options for the aggressiveness. be it boogie, PRS, Randalls (the Fortin ones)

Like i said i still do want to hear a Proper review. but the price tag that mirrors another posters inquired price, and having it sound like something you can get for much less NEW or USED in this basic form doesn't scream deal to me, Unless I was a Periphery fan.



Still sounds like a 5150/6505 to me, less XXX sounding under Misha's hands.
 
DeathbyButterslax":7affzfol said:
Would love to know where to get a jp2c for 3000cad. For real where are they selling that cheap?


any place that stocks the plain jp2c?, there is still tax on that. My local store doesn't have it listed on their site, Cosmo's has apparently sold out of the of the cheapest jp2c. they've been on sale so frequently like every other month they are on sale for a week or two all the stores in this area simultaneously

was watching the price of the one in my local ma n pa shop, as i was tempted (until i played it OFC, i prefer not to have the bright switches enabled) and the thing hit $2999+tax three times in the 6 months I was actively watching it, Go in for a new set of strings, mesa line is on its usual sales rotation again.

like Long and Mcquade, they have the highest mark up on stuff, their base model JP2c is listed $3299, which if you show up in store likely has a sales tag on it (as they price match)
 
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