Petrucci signature Mark IIc+

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suhrimmetal":1dmb5al2 said:
... JP made the V:25 sound killer... and most were left uninspired when they got their own hands and ears on them.

Hardly my experience.
 
Now that Petrucci has his dream amp that totally nails his beloved IIC+'s. I wonder if he's gonna be unloading those old obsolete bad boys now?.....yeah, didn't think so.
 
lester":mxh0d0bg said:
Now that Petrucci has his dream amp that totally nails his beloved IIC+'s. I wonder if he's gonna be unloading those old obsolete bad boys now?.....yeah, didn't think so.

He should sell a few he doesn't care about on Ebay. That would really get the hype going!
 
Not that Petrucci isn't worthy, he's a great player and great Mesa guy, but with all the great Mesa Boogie users over the years I wonder why Mesa chose this to be their first Signature amp. If they think this is generating a lot of interest imagine how much interest a James Hetfield IIC+ would have generated instead. To late now.
 
There have been rumors of a Hetfield signature amp but I agree , the time to really capatilize on the Hetfield/Metallica name kinda past. I'm sure if they do a signature with him the amp will do well but damn imagine if it had come out in the late 80s or even early 90s.

Regardless this new IIC+ amp was a good move. People have been asking for that sound in a reissue for a long time. Let's hope it sounds great, I was personally disappointed by the Mark V but there are a lot of guys who dig that amp.
 
jlb32":32bsbmfr said:
Not that Petrucci isn't worthy, he's a great player and great Mesa guy, but with all the great Mesa Boogie users over the years I wonder why Mesa chose this to be their first Signature amp. If they think this is generating a lot of interest imagine how much interest a James Hetfield IIC+ would have generated instead. To late now.

JP2C is not their first signature amp, they did the King Snake / Carlos Santana before. James has used and still uses different brands. As far as I know, JP has remained a Mesa user throughout his career. If you endorse it, better play it. It makes sense to pick JP, maybe it is also a royalty issue. That said, I would rather see a reissue without the name attached. I'm not a DT fanboy or into signature stuff. But if this amp delivers, then I don't care.
 
Laurens":3uj5an29 said:
jlb32":3uj5an29 said:
Not that Petrucci isn't worthy, he's a great player and great Mesa guy, but with all the great Mesa Boogie users over the years I wonder why Mesa chose this to be their first Signature amp. If they think this is generating a lot of interest imagine how much interest a James Hetfield IIC+ would have generated instead. To late now.

JP2C is not their first signature amp, they did the King Snake / Carlos Santana before.

Technically, it kinda is....only because the Santana amp was a limited edition deal, with limited numbers. This will be a production model that will stay in their line up. So, the JP2C is their first production signature amp anyways.
 
Laurens":1yso2wrg said:
jlb32":1yso2wrg said:
Not that Petrucci isn't worthy, he's a great player and great Mesa guy, but with all the great Mesa Boogie users over the years I wonder why Mesa chose this to be their first Signature amp. If they think this is generating a lot of interest imagine how much interest a James Hetfield IIC+ would have generated instead. To late now.

JP2C is not their first signature amp, they did the King Snake / Carlos Santana before. James has used and still uses different brands. As far as I know, JP has remained a Mesa user throughout his career. If you endorse it, better play it. It makes sense to pick JP, maybe it is also a royalty issue. That said, I would rather see a reissue without the name attached. I'm not a DT fanboy or into signature stuff. But if this amp delivers, then I don't care.

The King Snake was a collaboration with Carlos but Mesa even stated themselves that they didn't consider it a Signature amp. Santana's name is nowhere on the amp. Mesa considers the JP-2C as their first real Signature amp.

I'm with you, I would rather see a IIC+ Reissue without anyone's name attached to it as a Signature model.
 
dfrattaroli":dnaekl4c said:
suhrimmetal":dnaekl4c said:
... JP made the V:25 sound killer... and most were left uninspired when they got their own hands and ears on them.

Hardly my experience.
Indeed, same here!

I *sold* a '91 Mark IV Rev A, as I couldn't get along with R2 within 2 months, yet the Mark V:25's Crunch Mode is worth the price of admission by itself! Throw in the awesome cleans, great Xtreme mode (granted, the Mark IV mode isn't as big sounding as the real thing, but hey, 2x EL84 vs. 4x 6L6...), in an actual portable package...
 
Speeddemon":f88fhlhd said:
dfrattaroli":f88fhlhd said:
suhrimmetal":f88fhlhd said:
... JP made the V:25 sound killer... and most were left uninspired when they got their own hands and ears on them.

Hardly my experience.
Indeed, same here!

I *sold* a '91 Mark IV Rev A, as I couldn't get along with R2 within 2 months, yet the Mark V:25's Crunch Mode is worth the price of admission by itself! Throw in the awesome cleans, great Xtreme mode (granted, the Mark IV mode isn't as big sounding as the real thing, but hey, 2x EL84 vs. 4x 6L6...), in an actual portable package...
He said most. Not everyone. Just like most that purchased a Mk V and compared the 2C+ mode to their real 2C+ said it came up short of the real deal. I'm hoping the JP 2C+ is a lot closer than the Mk V turned out to be.
 
Racerxrated":1cph8uqd said:
Speeddemon":1cph8uqd said:
dfrattaroli":1cph8uqd said:
suhrimmetal":1cph8uqd said:
... JP made the V:25 sound killer... and most were left uninspired when they got their own hands and ears on them.

Hardly my experience.
Indeed, same here!

I *sold* a '91 Mark IV Rev A, as I couldn't get along with R2 within 2 months, yet the Mark V:25's Crunch Mode is worth the price of admission by itself! Throw in the awesome cleans, great Xtreme mode (granted, the Mark IV mode isn't as big sounding as the real thing, but hey, 2x EL84 vs. 4x 6L6...), in an actual portable package...
He said most. Not everyone. Just like most that purchased a Mk V and compared the 2C+ mode to their real 2C+ said it came up short of the real deal. I'm hoping the JP 2C+ is a lot closer than the Mk V turned out to be.

Most? Where did those "stats" come from?
 
dfrattaroli":35mm70y1 said:
Racerxrated":35mm70y1 said:
Speeddemon":35mm70y1 said:
dfrattaroli":35mm70y1 said:
suhrimmetal":35mm70y1 said:
... JP made the V:25 sound killer... and most were left uninspired when they got their own hands and ears on them.

Hardly my experience.
Indeed, same here!

I *sold* a '91 Mark IV Rev A, as I couldn't get along with R2 within 2 months, yet the Mark V:25's Crunch Mode is worth the price of admission by itself! Throw in the awesome cleans, great Xtreme mode (granted, the Mark IV mode isn't as big sounding as the real thing, but hey, 2x EL84 vs. 4x 6L6...), in an actual portable package...
He said most. Not everyone. Just like most that purchased a Mk V and compared the 2C+ mode to their real 2C+ said it came up short of the real deal. I'm hoping the JP 2C+ is a lot closer than the Mk V turned out to be.

Most? Where did those "stats" come from?

From out of his ass....
 
I had the chance to play a V:25 while comparing different EBMM Majesty's and it was a great little amp. Weighs nothing and sounded like a Mark amp to me (owned a IVB for a few years) so I'm sure this JP-2C will sound killer. Until we play one in person we won't know how it sounds compared to the old amps. The new DT album sounds like Six Degrees and isn't that whole album IIC+?
 
After listening to the JP2c+ demo is seemed to fall short IMO... I then went and watched JP's demo of the MKV25 prototype demo and I thought that little amp nailed the 2C+ tone better especially the crunch channel with his palm mutes chuga chuga.

You would think that JP would have gotten this as close to his original 2C's as possible working with MB to the closest details but at least on youtube the MKV25 seemed to deliver better tone. Maybe it was just how the JP2c was recorded? :confused:
 
harddriver":3jwxz97v said:
After listening to the JP2c+ demo is seemed to fall short IMO... I then went and watched JP's demo of the MKV25 prototype demo and I thought that little amp nailed the 2C+ tone better especially the crunch channel with his palm mutes chuga chuga.

You would think that JP would have gotten this as close to his original 2C's as possible working with MB to the closest details but at least on youtube the MKV25 seemed to deliver better tone. Maybe it was just how the JP2c was recorded? :confused:

Mike B didn't have any input in the creation of this amp from what I understand. Doug West was involved not MikeB.
 
DaveP":1mi2wseq said:
harddriver":1mi2wseq said:
After listening to the JP2c+ demo is seemed to fall short IMO... I then went and watched JP's demo of the MKV25 prototype demo and I thought that little amp nailed the 2C+ tone better especially the crunch channel with his palm mutes chuga chuga.

You would think that JP would have gotten this as close to his original 2C's as possible working with MB to the closest details but at least on youtube the MKV25 seemed to deliver better tone. Maybe it was just how the JP2c was recorded? :confused:

Mike B didn't have any input in the creation of this amp from what I understand. Doug West was involved not MikeB.


Maybe he just meant Mesa Boogie
 
MB= Mesa Boogie yes indeed. When I think of MB it's Mike B. When it comes to nearly every C+ his initials on the back.
When you send a C to C+ upgrade MIke B is the one who does it. Repair a C+ Mike B.
He is also the guy that mods/repairs John Petrucci's real C+'s.

Strange he didn't have anything to do with a C+ reissue.
 
Tone Zone":38gmph13 said:
dfrattaroli":38gmph13 said:
Racerxrated":38gmph13 said:
Speeddemon":38gmph13 said:
dfrattaroli":38gmph13 said:
suhrimmetal":38gmph13 said:
... JP made the V:25 sound killer... and most were left uninspired when they got their own hands and ears on them.

Hardly my experience.
Indeed, same here!

I *sold* a '91 Mark IV Rev A, as I couldn't get along with R2 within 2 months, yet the Mark V:25's Crunch Mode is worth the price of admission by itself! Throw in the awesome cleans, great Xtreme mode (granted, the Mark IV mode isn't as big sounding as the real thing, but hey, 2x EL84 vs. 4x 6L6...), in an actual portable package...
He said most. Not everyone. Just like most that purchased a Mk V and compared the 2C+ mode to their real 2C+ said it came up short of the real deal. I'm hoping the JP 2C+ is a lot closer than the Mk V turned out to be.

Most? Where did those "stats" come from?

From out of his ass....
Really?? Fuck off. Show me ANY post where ANYONE says "wow, that 2C+ mode sounds JUST like a real 2C+!!" I never said it was a bad sounding amp. This thread is about the JP2C+, and you guys chime in about your MKV or MKV 25. The inference anyone would make is that you are comparing your amp to a 2C+. No one thinks they compare to a real 2C+. And if they do, they're clearly in the minority. Or haven't ever played one.
 
Racerxrated":3tlai2km said:
Tone Zone":3tlai2km said:
dfrattaroli":3tlai2km said:
Racerxrated":3tlai2km said:
Speeddemon":3tlai2km said:
dfrattaroli":3tlai2km said:
suhrimmetal":3tlai2km said:
... JP made the V:25 sound killer... and most were left uninspired when they got their own hands and ears on them.

Hardly my experience.
Indeed, same here!

I *sold* a '91 Mark IV Rev A, as I couldn't get along with R2 within 2 months, yet the Mark V:25's Crunch Mode is worth the price of admission by itself! Throw in the awesome cleans, great Xtreme mode (granted, the Mark IV mode isn't as big sounding as the real thing, but hey, 2x EL84 vs. 4x 6L6...), in an actual portable package...
He said most. Not everyone. Just like most that purchased a Mk V and compared the 2C+ mode to their real 2C+ said it came up short of the real deal. I'm hoping the JP 2C+ is a lot closer than the Mk V turned out to be.

Most? Where did those "stats" come from?

From out of his ass....
Really?? Fuck off. Show me ANY post where ANYONE says "wow, that 2C+ mode sounds JUST like a real 2C+!!" I never said it was a bad sounding amp. This thread is about the JP2C+, and you guys chime in about your MKV or MKV 25. The inference anyone would make is that you are comparing your amp to a 2C+. No one thinks they compare to a real 2C+. And if they do, they're clearly in the minority. Or haven't ever played one.

I've got nothing in the pissing match but it read to me like you were slagging the V:25 and saying most people were disappointed with them not that you were saying the 2C+ mode didn't sound like a real 2C+...
 
Well, Suhrimetal said JP made the MK V 25 sound great. And then most who bought it seemed disappointed. Someone slagged him, and I pointed out that he said most. Which doesn't include everyone. Since this is a thread about 2C+ past and present JP2C+, I pointed out that most posts/reviews I've read about the MkV and V25 say the 2C+ mode isn't very close at all to the real thing. That doesn't equal me criticizing the amp. No need to get butthurt about your amps. The consensus is they don't measure up to a real 2C+. It doesn't have to. Its a Mk V not a Mk2C+ reissue. All good.
 
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