POLL: Where do you place your sonic maximizer?

[snakeman1986]

eBay

 

[rupe]

In the trash.

Or secretly on the back of the home stereo.

Proper EQ'ing goes a very long way. Mids are your friend, and volume does wonders for tube amplifiers

I agree. I used one for three years. It collected dust after 10 years. On a P.A. system it does sound really good, especially up front. I bought mine when I was in my Vito Bratta phase. I had an ADA MP-1, CArvin FET400, Sonic Maximizer 822, and an Alesis Quadraverb.

Same here. I thought it was the key to getting epic tone from the MP-1 based on testimony from Vito...and it does do something to make your "in the room" tone sound cool as hell. It took me far too long though to realize that it wasn't doing me any favors in a live mix.
That said, if you "gotta have one", I've found that the old 422a model works better in a guitar rig than the newer 482i.

 

[madrigal77]

Nowhere. Unless you want to ruin your tone and make it sound SS.

 

[lyres requiem]

in the effects loop of local land fill

 

[D-Rock]

I find what it does to your sound only part of the problem. They also totally destroy the feel and response of a tube amp under your fingers.

 

[TeleBlaster]

In the trash.

 

[aftec]

In the trash.

Or secretly on the back of the home stereo.

Proper EQ'ing goes a very long way. Mids are your friend, and volume does wonders for tube amplifiers

+1
Pour some nasty sh$t on it too, so no one would touch it again.

 

[thegreattailz]

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[thegreattailz]

Wow thats crazy, thats the exact opposite experience ive had and Ive been playing 18 years. My ears dont lie it sounds great in my marshall

 

[rupe]

Wow thats crazy, thats the exact opposite experience ive had and Ive been playing 18 years. My ears dont lie it sounds great in my marshall

A/B it in a live mix and see if you still feel that way. Trust me, I used to feel the same way you do until I tried it...even though I loved the tone in isolation I was shocked by how it disappeared in the mix when I listened back.

 

[MKibanez]

I had one for 1 week, tried it in the loop and in front. Loop was better but it destroyed all the tone of my Mesa, sound was like a robot voice, so ended up in Ebay!

 

[JTyson]

Wow thats crazy, thats the exact opposite experience ive had and Ive been playing 18 years. My ears dont lie it sounds great in my marshall

A/B it in a live mix and see if you still feel that way. Trust me, I used to feel the same way you do until I tried it...even though I loved the tone in isolation I was shocked by how it disappeared in the mix when I listened back.

This is what I could not get past, it adds a lot of detail and bottom, but kills the mids. The very thing you need to cut in a mix. If you like a scooped tone (a lot of guys do) they seem great and you feel like you've had a blanket over your ears. I love mids, so it was a deal killer right away for me.
All the negative feedback your getting is probably annoying, but if you play in a band, especially with another guitar player who does not use one, you will be fighting everyone else in the band to be heard. No way around it
Aside from that, its all personal preferance
We had to beat-up Danno for several months to get him to come around, and he plays strictly in a band situation

 

[thegreattailz]

Well i hate mids so i cut the mids off my amp completely, Of course i play modern hard rock if that has anything to do with it. Mids are not friends

 

[JTyson]

Well i hate mids so i cut the mids off my amp completely, Of course i play modern hard rock if that has anything to do with it. Mids are not friends

mmmm... I see.... I'm probably wasting your time, sorry
it dosent have anything to do with it, but...... carry on

 

[Mailman1971]

We had to beat-up Danno for several months to get him to come around, and he plays strictly in a band situation

Yeah....and I would of gotten away with it too!!! If not for that dog and you Meddling KIDS!!

 

[JTyson]

We were just trying to FORCE our help on you

 

[Mailman1971]

We were just trying to FORCE our help on you

Well it worked....the Graphic EQ sounds ten times better then the Sonic Maximizer in the loop.
And I was a DIE HARD BBE user.

 

[snakeman1986]

Well i hate mids so i cut the mids off my amp completely, Of course i play modern hard rock if that has anything to do with it. Mids are not friends

I also play modern hard rock.

1. Why do you hate mids?
2. Do you play in a band?
3. If yes, Do you play with a second guitarist?
4. If the answer to number 2 and 3 is yes, have you ever recorded a show or a practice? And can you hear yourself in the recording?
5. Do you like solid state tone? Because that is what you are making your tone sound like most of the time if you are using one of these things.

I used one of these in the effects loop of my Mesa for years and thought sounded awesome.

I finally got in a band and realized it SUCKED in the band mix. Another guitarist I played with used one as well and it caused his tone to sound harsh and you could absolutely not hear anything but hiss and noise when he played.

Another guitarist I now play with used to cut his mids way out and no one could hear him play anything. He then re eq'd his amp and it was a miracle! Everyone could hear him an everyone mentioned how much better the full band tone was.

It may not sound like mids are your friends, but the fact of the matter is in a band mix you better have them or you will not cut.

Almost every guitarist goes through these things at one point or another.

 

[Anonymous]

nowhere near your guitar signal.


not my thing at all

especially a tube amp.

"Scoopage is for fail"