Proof the Earth is round

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If familiarize yourself w/ the flat earth debate, you will find that the scientific evidence is contested. That's why I keep asking you to provide something that you believe is conclusive. The "preponderance of evidence" is a subjective standard.

It's not contested by the scientists that are actual experts in Astronomy. Sure, I could spend an good hour writing up an explanation over it, citing sources, providing links and videos, etc. Why would I? Its already been done. A flat earther will just say all the science and scientists are corrupt to immediately dismiss the argument. It's a waste of time. Flat Earthers are invested in belief, not scientific evidence.
 
It's not contested by the scientists that are actual experts in Astronomy. Sure, I could spend an good hour writing up an explanation over it, citing sources, providing links and videos, etc. Why would I? Its already been done. A flat earther will just say all the science and scientists are corrupt to immediately dismiss the argument. It's a waste of time. Flat Earthers are invested in belief, not scientific evidence.
No one here is an actual flat earther though. I've said that a dozen times in this thread. The people questioning the official story line just tend to doubt that it is a ball spinning in "space", which is a newspeak term anyways. Have you read the wiki page on earth's shape? There are ten or fifteen different conclusions (or more) that have been claimed throughout history and all of them are theoretical since they cannot be directly observed by the lay person, who is left to believe as they are told lest they become a pariah for not bowing to the lab coat gospel.
 
It's not contested by the scientists that are actual experts in Astronomy. Sure, I could spend an good hour writing up an explanation over it, citing sources, providing links and videos, etc. Why would I? Its already been done. A flat earther will just say all the science and scientists are corrupt to immediately dismiss the argument. It's a waste of time. Flat Earthers are invested in belief, not scientific evidence.
Like I said, you should familiarize yourself with the debate. No one is claiming a corruption of science or scientists, other than pointing out the intense pressure for "experts" to conform (As none want to be ostracized or lose their jobs). Flat earthers do claim that NASA pictures, landings, etc. are faked, but that's another matter.
 
Like I said, you should familiarize yourself with the debate.

I have. I also have some formal education in Astronomy and pseudoscience. I know the difference between good science and pseudoscience and total bunk science.

No one is claiming a corruption of science or scientists, other than pointing out the intense pressure for "experts" to conform (As none want to be ostracized or lose their jobs).

Flat earthers constantly talk about the "conspiracy amongst scientists and academia" to suppress their whacky ideas. What are you even on about?

Flat earthers do claim that NASA pictures, landings, etc. are faked, but that's another matter.

It's not another matter, it's the heart of the matter. Dismissing evidence is the core tactic of Flat Earthers.
 
Dismissing evidence is the core tactic of Flat Earthers.
Not sure what you mean. Photos can be manipulated or fabricated -- that's why flat earthers dismiss pictures. I'm not aware of flat earthers dismissing a reproducible scientific experiment.
I have. I also have some formal education in Astronomy and pseudoscience. I know the difference between good science and pseudoscience and total bunk science.
But you can't cite one experiment or calculation that you believe conclusively demonstrates that the earth is a spinning ball?
 
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Not sure what you mean. Photos can be manipulated or fabricated -- that's why flat earthers dismiss pictures. I'm not aware of flat earthers dismissing a reproducible scientific experiment.

There are numerous experiments that can be reproduced to establish the shape of earth. Photographic evidence isn't required. Look it up.

But you can't cite one experiment or calculation that you believe conclusively demonstrates that the earth is a spinning ball?

I already answered this and explained why I know it's a waste of time to do that. Get a proper foundation in Astronomy and learn from experts, not laymen. HOLY BISCUITS, just ask a pilot why they don't fly in a straight line between destinations if you are too lazy for that.
 
Those are theoretical though not a direct observation of earth's shape.

Yet you categorically deny ALL direct observational evidence of the earth's shape. We've already been through this the last few weeks, my friend. I think you're never going to change your mind because you believe in scripture as incontrovertible historical, scientific and spiritual truth. I will only change my mind because of better evidence in favor of a more universal and scientific truth. We are who we are. Agree to disagree and that's cool.
 
Thumbpicker's right about the moon's gradually losing its orbit; it's been "known" for decades. Measured with lasers to be 9" a year IIRC.

Incidentally, this would mean that back in Dinosaur times they'd have received a rude haircut shortly before it contacted and obliterated the earth.

Food for thought at any rate.

Distance - 384,000km
9" = 22.86cm
384,000km = 384000000m
384000000m / 22.86cm = 384000000m / 0.022.86m = 16797900262 days
16797900262 days / 365 days = 46,021,644 years

So yeah, the most-recently-alive Dinos would've got a haircut like no other.

The shrinking sun's another interesting one to look at (burning 5 million tonnes of fuel a second - that's a lot). I'll leave it to someone else to do the math.
 
Oh man, those math questions really did my head in. :LOL:

Now, if they'd made them about moons, suns and other interesting stuff instead of friggin' trains every time, I'm tippin' a whole-lot more kids would've become engaged.
 
I built this telescope with my own hands and have been a member of an astronomy club for over 30 years. I just might know a thing or two about these things mate.

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I’m doing some work at an observatory later today that I’m pumped for. I’m installing new rain sensors for the dome so that it closes when some weather passes by.
 
There are numerous experiments that can be reproduced to establish the shape of earth. Photographic evidence isn't required. Look it up.
So you can't name one experiment or calculation? Just humor me. Obviously flat earth fact checks and rebuttals are not difficult to find.
HOLY BISCUITS, just ask a pilot why they don't fly in a straight line between destinations if you are too lazy for that.
Tell us more what you don't know about great-circle navigation.
 
Yet you categorically deny ALL direct observational evidence of the earth's shape.
I don't see any direct observational evidence other than NASA photos and stuff tho. Everything else is some calculation or some such designed to "prove" it but it remains theoretical. We are told if we get to 35000 feet on a clear day with a wide field of view we can witness it flying in a plane that but most commercial aircraft do not reach that altitude and even if they did whose to say you aren't seeing the edge of a flat disc that would also look "curved" at it's visual edge
 
I don't see any direct observational evidence other than NASA photos and stuff tho.
Yet actual direct observational evidence, such as being able to see Chicago across lake Michigan, is dismissed as a 'mirage'. With globetrotters you can't even trust your own eyes, let alone ridiculous, ever-changing NASA pics.
 
We are told if we get to 35000 feet on a clear day with a wide field of view we can witness it flying in a plane that but most commercial aircraft do not reach that altitude
I have flown many times and have never been able to see the earth's curvature. Commercial jets cruise at around 35,000 ft. When pressed on this, ball huggers say you actually have to be at 60,000 feet. There is of course plenty of amateur footage from that altitude (And higher) that shows a flat plane.
 
I have flown many times and have never been able to see the earth's curvature. Commercial jets cruise at around 35,000 ft. When pressed on this, most ball huggers say you actually have to be at 60,000 feet. There is of course plenty of amateur footage from that altitude (And higher) that shows a flat plane.
How can you forget this classic? Look at that curve, changes constantly....I had no idea Nevada or whatever took up half the "globe". This is supposedly 123,000 feet i.e "space".

 
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