Proof the Earth is round

[311boogieman]

It's not much harder to believe than it is to buy into the idea we are on a rapidly spinning ball, all of us kept from flying off by some mystical, unidentifiable force called "gravity".

Yes, I believe gravity is a real force. It is not mystical.

 

[311boogieman]

So you are saying that if a ship leaves China with my new Vintage 30s and is headed to the Port of Las Angeles, a telescope can keep an eye on it and not lose sight of it?


And what am I looking at here at the minute mark of 1:56 ....?

Is that supposed to be a ships hull?

 

[MadAsAHatter]

Too bad this dude has a complete lack of understanding on how perspective works. There's noting in the law of perspective that accounts for the tops of an object remaining visible while their bottoms disappear.

And telescopes aren't magical items that bring obscured objects back into view. And if you're able to bring an object back into view it by default debunks the previous law of perspective claim.

 

[MadAsAHatter]

Science only offers theories and models on the subject, not certitudes. Because of our limited perspective as humans it's an unknown, hence the church's official stance.

That still wouldn't stop you from testing out some of those theories yourself if you wanted to.

 

[VonBonfire]

That still wouldn't stop you from testing out some of those theories yourself if you wanted to.

It's irrelevant to me. It has no bearing on day to day life. It's not a concern for an orthodox person. I trust the church over science anyways so, case closed. It's very doubtful that it's a rapidly spinning ball.

 

[MadAsAHatter]

It's irrelevant to me. It has no bearing on day to day life. It's not a concern for an orthodox person. I trust the church over science anyways so, case closed. It's very doubtful that it's a rapidly spinning ball.

It has no bearing until one of these low IQ goobers becomes taken in and made dumber by garbage science. A man decides they're magically a woman now because garbage science says so and now you're not using their correct pronouns. Then enough of them get together and vote in the dumbest presidential candidate to date and the country is run completely into the shitter.

 

[Bad Brain]

Design an experiment that can be tested and replicated to show it's not a mirage.

I am pretty sure someone already videoed a continuous trip starting on the Michigan shore and sailing all the way to Chicago, keeping the skyline in the frame the whole time.

 

[311boogieman]

Side question for you guys.

Do you believe or mistrust:

That the Mariana Trench is as deep as 36,000 feet?
That plate tectonics are real?
That the center of the sun can reach 27,000,000 degrees F
That chlorophyll in leaves breaks down causing them to change colors in Fall?
That man crossed the ice age land bridge to North America over 12,000 years ago?

 

[Bad Brain]

Too bad this dude has a complete lack of understanding on how perspective works. There's noting in the law of perspective that accounts for the tops of an object remaining visible while their bottoms disappear.

And telescopes aren't magical items that bring obscured objects back into view. And if you're able to bring an object back into view it by default debunks the previous law of perspective claim.

Telescopes debunk the claim that ships disappear "over" the horizon. I'd have to look more closely at his arguments about the law of perspective.

 

[MadAsAHatter]

I am pretty sure someone already videoed a continuous trip starting on the Michigan shore and sailing all the way to Chicago, keeping the skyline in the frame the whole time.

And how does that show anything about a mirage?

 

[Bad Brain]

And how does that show anything about a mirage?

Well, it could be that everything is a mirage. At some point you just have to accept what's in front of you.

 

[MadAsAHatter]

Telescopes debunk the claim that ships disappear "over" the horizon.

Please explain how.

 

[Bad Brain]

Please explain how.

It's self evident — the ships aren't disappearing over the horizon. They are just falling out of sight of the human eye.

 

[MadAsAHatter]

Well, it could be that everything is a mirage. At some point you just have to accept what's in front of you.

I accept it's a mirage because there's enough evidence to substantiate that claim.

 

[Bad Brain]

It has no bearing until one of these low IQ goobers becomes taken in and made dumber by garbage science. A man decides they're magically a woman now because garbage science says so and now you're not using their correct pronouns. Then enough of them get together and vote in the dumbest presidential candidate to date and the country is run completely into the shitter.

That's a social control argument and it's irrelevant to the debate.

 

[MadAsAHatter]

It's self evident — the ships aren't disappearing over the horizon. They are just falling out of sight of the human eye.

Then what happened to that ship when you zoomed in with the telescope and it's not there anymore?

 

[Bad Brain]

Then what happened to that ship when you zoomed in with the telescope and it's not there anymore?

It's out of the extended range of vision of the telescope.

 

[MadAsAHatter]

That's a social control argument and it's irrelevant to the debate.

Not completely a social construct. Some people truly believe they can switch sexes because they equate humans to some amphibian species (mainly specific species of frogs) can do it. Garbage science

 

[Bad Brain]

Not completely a social construct. Some people truly believe they can switch sexes because they equate humans to some amphibian species (mainly specific species of frogs) can do it. Garbage science

I said social control, not construct — IE it shouldn't matter what the social consequences of a given theory are.

 

[VonBonfire]

Not completely a social construct. Some people truly believe they can switch sexes because they equate humans to some amphibian species (mainly specific species of frogs) can do it. Garbage science

They still have "debunkings" all over the net for anti-vax claims. Do you also believe that was safe and effective? How could so many people be in on a conspiracy and no one find out?