Randy Rhoads 1959SUPER LEAD

[Bob Savage]

You're assuming that Marshall would market a signature amp to sound different from the player's signature sound? Seems odd to me. I doubt the reissue will sound any more like Randy Rhoads than you can get with a MXR D+ and a JMP, it's all marketing.

This is where we differ. I read the add, comprehend what they're saying, and take it at face value. You on the other hand read the ad, disregarded it and have come to conclusions based upon what you think Marshall will do.

I'm sticking with my methodology for now. If the amp comes out and sounds liked a thinned out, MXR'd amp then I will change my opinion but for now I'm sticking with what Marshall's verbiage indicates. That ad is more than marketing, it also includes descriptive text of their methodology which makes no mention of pedals.

 

[zepman]

I could make some room in my studio for that sucker SWEET. I will get one at the house and try it out ASAP

 

[-=MYK=-]

I hope they made some sort of effort with this amp. I'd hate/love to see them just throwing the white tolex on it and writing a bunch of mish mash about Randy to sucker people in.

I can't wait to see the price tag!

 

[Bob Savage]

I hope they made some sort of effort with this amp. I'd hate/love to see them just throwing the white tolex on it and writing a bunch of mish mash about Randy to sucker people in.

I can't wait to see the price tag!

Tone is in the tolex.

 

[Odin]

I think I would have preferred hearing Blizzard with the early Van Halen Marshall tone, which was about as gainy as Randy's tone.

That would be horrible...VH tone =

I liked the tone on Van Halen II

 

[Gitfiddler]

I hope they made some sort of effort with this amp. I'd hate/love to see them just throwing the white tolex on it and writing a bunch of mish mash about Randy to sucker people in.

I can't wait to see the price tag!

Tone is in the tolex.

 

[Anonymous]

Dude - you would make a great trial lawyer! You gonna be at NAMM Friday? Lemme buy ya a drink...

Steve

Trial lawyer? It took me 6 years to get a Bachelors. It would take 30 more years for me to finish law school. I don't suppose you can pull any strings for me and get me into USC?

I will be at NAMM on Friday, are you going? A drink? You probably haven't stopped drinking after celebrating that Rose Bowl win over whatever Pop Warner team that was Illinois sent out here to play you guys.

HA! Yeah, that was one week team. Wish they'd have picked Georgia...

Sheesh, just send this thread over to the USC law school and you won't need my help at all, Counselor! See ya tomorrow...

Steve

 

[Anonymous]

VH tone =

HEY!

Steve

 

[again with this]

I hope they made some sort of effort with this amp. I'd hate/love to see them just throwing the white tolex on it and writing a bunch of mish mash about Randy to sucker people in.

I can't wait to see the price tag!

Tone is in the tolex.

What about the black logo? Tone is in the blackness.

 

[Odin]

I hope they made some sort of effort with this amp. I'd hate/love to see them just throwing the white tolex on it and writing a bunch of mish mash about Randy to sucker people in.

I can't wait to see the price tag!

Tone is in the tolex.

What about the black logo? Tone is in the blackness.

The black logo balances out the tone and compensates for the brighter sounding white tolex.

 

[Green Bastard]

I think the guitar tone on Diary was definitely improved over Blizzard. I prefer Randy's playing on Blizzard, it's my favorite Ozzy album

Werent both albums recorded at the same time and just released serparatly? I could be totally wrong but I thought I read that somewhere.

 

[Bob Savage]

Werent both albums recorded at the same time and just released serparatly? I could be totally wrong but I thought I read that somewhere.

If they were, the production somehow sounds completely different.

 

[Odin]

I think the guitar tone on Diary was definitely improved over Blizzard. I prefer Randy's playing on Blizzard, it's my favorite Ozzy album

Werent both albums recorded at the same time and just released serparatly? I could be totally wrong but I thought I read that somewhere.

Don't know, but the guitar tone is better sounding on Diary to my ears. When I listen to the 2 records, Diary sounds "older" and Blizzard sounds like more polished songwriting and a more mature band (but with worse production), but Blizzard was released first. It wouldn't surprise me if Diary was older material.

 

[Tnjpekar]

part of Randys tone on those two albums (yeah, not cd's) was a crybaby wha, depressed about half way and a distortion pedal. this is what thinned his tone out for a large part. His live tone cut thru massively. and for those of you that werent around back then, like what was said before, you had marshall, fender, mesa boogie and music man. not sure if seymour duncan had come out with the convertable by that point, but that was proven to be a not so road worthy amp anyway and forget peavey, Skynerd did! . some of the modded mashall tonesin those days were proto types that were not released to the general public. the reason these amps are sought after now is that the techs at marshall tweeked them before they left, but they werent really great on keeping records of what was done on the fly, or what mods were kept and what ones were discarded. marshall was kind of known for making slight modifications to amps that were being supplied to touring musicians, asking for feedback and such during the 70's, and only keeping record of what came back. not all came back. then there were those that were modded after the fact, and some of those tones marshall wanted as well.

 

[Tnjpekar]

I could make some room in my studio for that sucker SWEET. I will get one at the house and try it out ASAP

you whore you

 

[shredhead666]

I wonder if it gets that awful thin fizzy tone from Blizzard Of Oz?

Damn, Marshall will partner with the relatives of any dead guitar hero to make a buck these days, won't they. Instead of reissuing the plexi and JCM800 in a dozen different signature models they should try to make a new amp that sounds as good as the old amps. The JVM was a good move in that direction, but they cut corners and overpriced the thing.

Randy was one of the true greats but I didn't always love his tone. Cool looking amp regardless.

Yeah, I completely hear you about Randy's recorded tone. However, his live tone... HOOOOOLY shit. Let's hope THIS is what they're trying to offer up.

 

[yngzaklynch]

OMG

 

[* velcro-fly *]

Now that I think about it, how wimpy was J.S. Bach's tone when he used that harpsichord? Why didn't he play a Schecter Hellraiser 7-string tuned down to drop Q through a Krank Bachenstein?

Sig worthy

 

[dstroud]

Holy Crap!!! I stood right next to that stack at NAMM today and had my picture taken. I didn't even know what it was, there was no signs or anything! I couldn't have played it anyway, it was just on display and I didn't see one in the "loud room". Very cool though, I look forward to hearing it. I was always a huge RR fan. Spent my 1st 2 years on guitar learning every note on Blizzard and Diary.

 

[dstroud]

Randys tone on After Hours was pretty good

EXACTLY my point. Some little piss-ant TV studio in upstate New York was able to more accurately capture Randy's real tone than Max Norman was in a studio. Yet, internet guitar forums can't fall over themselves quickly enough to talk about how thin Rhoads tone was as you look back 25 years or so at it. I'm telling you guys, at the time no one was saying his tone was thin. Thin compared to what? Molly Hatchett, Scandal, Foreigner? Everyone was freaking over how much gain he had. He was really the first high gain guy that I was ever aware of.

I remember reading a Max Norman article. He said on Blizzard he was using some strange compressor (or short delay - AMS?) to get some sort of "grind" on the guitars. I remember loving the tone when I was young, and the playing is so awesome, I don't know if I could hear those songs any other way - probably would be wierd after hearing them the way they are for so long. Diary sounds worlds away from Blizzard, these days I really like the sound on Diary. Randy was the man!