Recommend a Delay and Reverb pedal for 80s metal

Reverend Bow said:
Especially when Effects loops usually run in Parallel with the dry signal

99% of people can't hear a difference between analog and digital on their phone speaker
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most effects loops these days are serial in my experience .....

amps from the 90's had a lot of parallel loops especially Mesa's ..... when everyone was going full rack ...

the reason I stay pure analog is simple ............ when ever I've tried anything digital on my board .... it always sucks the organic feel and tone away ...

from what I understand this is why parallel loops were introduced .... to maintain the feel and tone of the pre amp and then blend the wet signal into it ... before hitting the power section

I tried that .... thought it sucked .

now .....are there digital units out there that are insanely good ..... hell yeah .... but I found they never mixed or blended well with my analog stuff

always volume dropping ...... sound artifacts that weren't pleasing etc etc ....

but that's just me ..... I'm no tone preacher ....... if stuff works for you it works for you ...
 
griff10672 said:
most effects loops these days are serial in my experience .....

amps from the 90's had a lot of parallel loops especially Mesa's ..... when everyone was going full rack ...

the reason I stay pure analog is simple ............ when ever I've tried anything digital on my board .... it always sucks the organic feel and tone away ...

from what I understand this is why parallel loops were introduced .... to maintain the feel and tone of the pre amp and then blend the wet signal into it ... before hitting the power section

I tried that .... thought it sucked .

now .....are there digital units out there that are insanely good ..... hell yeah .... but I found they never mixed or blended well with my analog stuff

always volume dropping ...... sound artifacts that weren't pleasing etc etc ....

but that's just me ..... I'm no tone preacher ....... if stuff works for you it works for you ...
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Give me some examples of these analog delays... I'll have to try both digital and analog and see what I like best. My Joyo Analog Delay is apparently not analog but digital.
 
jchrisf said:
Give me some examples of these analog delays... I'll have to try both digital and analog and see what I like best. My Joyo Analog Delay is apparently not analog but digital.
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These days you can get digitally controlled but pure analog signal path BBD Delays ...
My favorites are
JHS Panther ( the older light blue one )
Seymour Duncan Vapor Trail Deluxe
DOD Rubberneck
Ibanez Echo Shifter
 
jchrisf said:
I'm ditching modelers and going tube amp. Which reverb and delay do you recommend for the loop of my amps? I've always played them without but discovered I had a cheap Joyo Analog Delay and Donner Yellow Fall that I forgot about. They sounded really good. Would a more expensive delay actually sound better?

This would be for 80s metal like Dokken, Ozzy, etc.
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I’m going to grab a visual sound h20….not sure if that qualifies for what you’re looking for but I have wanted one forever….
 
jchrisf said:
I'm curious... These digital pedals like the SDE-3000/Eventide don't suck the tone out of an amp like modelers do they? I assume they are like rack gear in a pedal. I've got the FM3 but I do notice it sucks a tiny bit of tone.. not like the Helix though.

They had the Boss SDE-3 on sale for $150 the other day but I missed it. Is it a good rendition of the 3000?
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Anything you put in the signal path, and I do mean anything, will alter the tone. You have to decide whether or not you like the alteration.
 
fek said:
For a small footprint in one box, the EQD Dispatch Master.
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I have 2 Dispatch Masters and cannot give enough praise. Yes. limited tweakability - but plenty of adjustment well within the 'sweet spot' where most guitarists want that little bit of width for 80s style rhythms and leads. The thing that blows me away is how incredibly 'clean' this sounds for a small, simple stomp.
 
With delay I think defining what features you want is the most important. Do you want presets or tap tempo, or modulation, or ?

For a simple cheap option I like the TC Flashback II. Lots of variety and analog dry through. You really want analog dry through to preserve your amp tone.
 
PDC said:
I have 2 Dispatch Masters and cannot give enough praise. Yes. limited tweakability - but plenty of adjustment well within the 'sweet spot' where most guitarists want that little bit of width for 80s style rhythms and leads. The thing that blows me away is how incredibly 'clean' this sounds for a small, simple stomp.
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What do you mean by clean? I play metal.
 
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