Recommend a Rack Tuner - Please

[IndyWS6]

Greetings...
This is a companion question to my other thread ("Help Me Build a Rack Rig")...

I want to put a rack tuner in this rig. Something that works well, is reliable, reasonably priced and preferably 1U. What would you recommend?

Thanks in advance...

 

[Tawlks]

I've heard nothing but good things about the Korg rack tuners, DTR 1000 and 2000

 

[Death by Uberschall]

Korg

 

[IndyWS6]

Thanks...
Korg is the recommendation so far. Do these come up for sale very often, or is this likely to be something I need to purchase new? Just wondering what to expect to pay...

 

[Deleted member 8761]

Peterson if you want to be really really accurate and have the money to spend.

 

[Code001]

I prefer pedal tuners, but if you do get a rack one, it would be wise to put it in a separate loop. A lot of them suck tone. I personally think the Peterson is the best out of them all, but the looks can be a bit funky, and if you're not used to the strobe display, it can be a PITA.

 

[IndyWS6]

Greetings...
Thanks for the input. The Peterson tuners are certainly nice, but a bit pricey for this effort. I'm OK with the investment it would take to get a Korg 1000, though. What would your signal chain look like with the tuner in a separate loop? Would you use an A/B switch to send the signal to the rig or to the tuner? Does anyone know if keeping a Korg in the chain is "bad"?

I intend to eventually get a Ground Control Pro to switch the gear in this rack. Would a GCX in conjunction with the GC Pro allow me to put the tuner on a separate loop? Hadn't really considered that before...

 

[Code001]

GCX will work, but I prefer the RJM stuff in terms of features. I also hear their buffer is better.

 

[IndyWS6]

GCX will work, but I prefer the RJM stuff in terms of features. I also hear their buffer is better.

What pedal would you use with it?

 

[Code001]

Personally, I wouldn't feel adequate with anything less than an FX-1/Liquid Foot Pro/All Access/RS-10 with a few expansions. Those are a bit hard to come by, though. If you can get away with less, then go for it. The GCP is a wonderful MIDI board, as is the Rocktron All Access. If you can get by with even less, RJM makes the MasterMind, which is a killer unit. Plan out how many PCs and CCs you'll need, and you should be able to find the MIDI board that's perfect for you.

 

[Spaceboy]

How badly do the Korg tuners suck tone? I may be wanting a rack tuner in the near future, and was planning on getting a Korg to just put in the signal chain before a noise reducer and the amplifier.

Also, is there a method to "Y" within a rack, without using a small pedal? It doesn't need to switch A/B switch, just split signal for maybe a stereo setup.

 

[turmoil]

i've been using a korg dtr-2000 for the 5 or 6 years and it's a fantastic rack tuner. i never noticed any "tone" suckage when i use it though

 

[Tawlks]

I've never heard that the korg sucks tone, it's cheap and well accurate enough. IMO.

FYI, never owned one, but I've heard alot about them while considering building a rack, and know people who own them, no complaints from anywhere. YMMV.

 

[Code001]

These threads should help pretty much everyone:

http://www.hugeracksinc.com/forum/viewt ... =1&t=28179
http://www.hugeracksinc.com/forum/viewt ... =1&t=12064
http://www.hugeracksinc.com/forum/viewt ... =1&t=12671
http://www.hugeracksinc.com/forum/viewt ... f=1&t=7464
http://www.hugeracksinc.com/forum/viewt ... f=1&t=5621

 

[Spaceboy]

Apparently, the Petersen StroboRack has an upgrade option that gives it stereo output, but it doesn't have much information on how it splits that signal. This could be the answer for a signal split in a stereo rack, and the best available tuner. Does anybody know anything about the stereo output of the StroboRack? I would think I'd need something to split that has lift to preserve signal strength, but I can't find anything rackmount for that.

Something roughly like this would be what I might need it for, I guess...

Guitar > Wah > Tuner (should this be in another loop?) > ProRackG > Signal splitter > 2 different amps, FX loops out > dual channel rack EQ > Loop into poweramp

I've never had a rack, I'm just tossing thoughts around about them lately, so this could be the wrong chain.

 

[Robotechnology]

Just do what I do, get a strobostomp 2 and then go:

guitar into Strobostomp 2 into rack and you're done. Super accurate and you just look down at the floor for your tuning instead of behind you.

 

[IndyWS6]

Thanks everyone...
Some interesting comments and things I hadn't thought about.

 

[Zachman]

Thanks everyone...
Some interesting comments and things I hadn't thought about.

Some things to consider:

* Don't put the tuner in series-- in your audio path, and you don't have to worry about tone suckage.

Ex: (Doesn't have to be ultra involved, but you can see how the tuner isn't in the path.)

* If you locate the rack to your side, like a side fill monitor, you can just look over and see your tuner, and/or you can see it from across the stage-- without having to be standing in front of your pedal board.

I use a Korg DTR-1 and have no issues with it. FWIW, it DOES suck tone if in the audio path-- which is why I don't have it setup like that anymore.

 

[IndyWS6]

Thanks everyone...
Some interesting comments and things I hadn't thought about.

Some things to consider:

* Don't put the tuner in series-- in your audio path, and you don't have to worry about tone suckage.

Ex: (Doesn't have to be ultra involved, but you can see how the tuner isn't in the path.)

* If you locate the rack to your side, like a side fill monitor, you can just look over and see your tuner, and/or you can see it from across the stage-- without having to be standing in front of your pedal board.

I use a Korg DTR-1 and have no issues with it. FWIW, it DOES suck tone if in the audio path-- which is why I don't have it setup like that anymore.

Thank you, sir...
I like the idea of having the tuner in the rack and not on the floor. I should be able to make that work by putting the rack to the side (as much as possible) like you suggested. Looks like I need to think through ways to do some switching to keep the tuner out of the loop

Thanks Again

 

[Zachman]

Thanks everyone...
Some interesting comments and things I hadn't thought about.

Some things to consider:

* Don't put the tuner in series-- in your audio path, and you don't have to worry about tone suckage.

Ex: (Doesn't have to be ultra involved, but you can see how the tuner isn't in the path.)

* If you locate the rack to your side, like a side fill monitor, you can just look over and see your tuner, and/or you can see it from across the stage-- without having to be standing in front of your pedal board.

I use a Korg DTR-1 and have no issues with it. FWIW, it DOES suck tone if in the audio path-- which is why I don't have it setup like that anymore.

Thank you, sir...
I like the idea of having the tuner in the rack and not on the floor. I should be able to make that work by putting the rack to the side (as much as possible) like you suggested. Looks like I need to think through ways to do some switching to keep the tuner out of the loop

Thanks Again