Shask
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I keep thinking about ordering one of those....
SonVolt
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It's a weird pedal. Couple of things to know...
1) Don't bother if you're running mono.
2) It's not true bypass, the Input Gain (volume) is active at all times. I'm using a MusicomLab Parallelizer where it can be switched out of the signal path.
In stereo with the settings shown below and the Input Gain (volume) bumped up a bit it is absolutely glorious. There's a lushness and immediacy to the analog choruses that seems to get lost in my digital chorus pedals.
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nightlight
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I'd recommend sticking to a rack unit for FX if you have a rack preamp and power amp. It makes everything that much more convenient to carry, setup, and use.
Also worth noting that most rack FX units have multiple FX that you could run both before and after the preamp section. You do that, it's a hell of a lot of cables to accommodate.
Don't forget, in case of a system failure, it is much easier to diagnose if it's just a single rack unit malfunctioning rather than one amongst a dozen pedals.
If you go Axe FX, it will pretty much have everything you need. The FX quality is also top notch. Plenty of inputs and outputs to send stuff to FOH, monitors around the stage, your own personal monitors, etc.
Also worth noting that most rack FX units have multiple FX that you could run both before and after the preamp section. You do that, it's a hell of a lot of cables to accommodate.
Don't forget, in case of a system failure, it is much easier to diagnose if it's just a single rack unit malfunctioning rather than one amongst a dozen pedals.
If you go Axe FX, it will pretty much have everything you need. The FX quality is also top notch. Plenty of inputs and outputs to send stuff to FOH, monitors around the stage, your own personal monitors, etc.
JerEvil
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100% agree! The reason I opted for the. 88-IR was the theee fully independent channels.
alund
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This only if you set up the computer connection to manipulate the settings. Getting into the unit is like playing sega street fighter when 5 button presses make a move. The computer app manager is key and makes this unit killer.
JerEvil
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I have the blacked out one. It’s still in the box. I ordered it 7 months ago! Lol! I’m still intimidated…
rsm
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In the rack: Eclipse; or go all out with an H9000. Or get an Axe-FX III rack for effects only.
On the floor: Line 6 HX Effects or Boss GX-100 (using effects only) in 4CM.
On the floor: Line 6 HX Effects or Boss GX-100 (using effects only) in 4CM.
stratjacket
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The H9 is like that, totally unusable on the pedal, but the H90 has a decent interface. I was able to dial it in just using the pedal. But agree the app is good and makes it a lot easier.
MKibanez
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I am running my Soldano Astro 20 with my Line 6 Helix LT in 4CM, works fine.
alund
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Yeah. It’s a chore to do it by the unit itself. The computer connection is stupid simple. Point arrow…. Click.
TheGreatGreen
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Nothing is going to beat Fractal for multi effects units.
Pick whichever one suits your use case and be done with the search.
Pick whichever one suits your use case and be done with the search.
tallcoolone
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I can’t imaging having to do anything on the H90 without the editor
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ewill52
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LOVE my VP4!
SonVolt
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I spent a lot of time with the VP4 over the weekend doing some A/B tests against the SDE-3000EVH, Eventide MicroPitch and the TC SCF Gold. I have all of these pedals running in parallel using a MusicomLab Paralleliser into a W/D/W rig. All pedals are set to kill-dry so any dry signal is 100% analog. I'm also running dry (analog) into the wet cabs.
Blind I could not tell the difference between the Dual Delay in the VP4 and all 4 of the EVH presets on the SDE-3000EVH. Zero.
The Micropitch was a little harder, but after spending way too long messing with the high/low cut and adding a 20ms delay on one side I think I've nailed it.
The Multitap Delay set to the 1210 algorithm did a very convincing SCF Gold for that stereo widening no-movement Chorus. For dirt I actually preferred the VP4. For cleans I every so slightly prefer the SCF pedal.
The VP4 is top of the heap IMO assuming you know the Fractal eco-system and put in the time to tweak the blocks.
Blind I could not tell the difference between the Dual Delay in the VP4 and all 4 of the EVH presets on the SDE-3000EVH. Zero.
The Micropitch was a little harder, but after spending way too long messing with the high/low cut and adding a 20ms delay on one side I think I've nailed it.
The Multitap Delay set to the 1210 algorithm did a very convincing SCF Gold for that stereo widening no-movement Chorus. For dirt I actually preferred the VP4. For cleans I every so slightly prefer the SCF pedal.
The VP4 is top of the heap IMO assuming you know the Fractal eco-system and put in the time to tweak the blocks.
CarlF
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The VP 4 is the front-runner. I hope the learning curve isn't steep.
Fryette LXII coming today, then on to the effects. Got the Soldano Midi Footswitch as well.
Fryette LXII coming today, then on to the effects. Got the Soldano Midi Footswitch as well.
SonVolt
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Definitely start with the VP4-Edit software on a PC first, so you get a quick feel for how it works (and the Fractal ecosystem in general). Once you get the hang of it, it makes the interface on the VP4 itself more intuitive.
Also know most of the effect parameters are hidden until you click "expert edit" mode.
For modulation effects, I always bump them up 2-4dB so they poke out more.
Shask
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Have you ever unhooked everything and ran straight through the VP4?
SonVolt
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With the dry center cab I can't run straight into the VP4 unless I run the outer cabs 100% wet, which I don't like.
Shask
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I am just still wondering how transparent the VP4 is, and if the ADA messes with dynamics.
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