Rumors of a Mark 6/7 coming on Tuesday?

  • Thread starter Thread starter Spaceboy
  • Start date Start date
hellzington said:
First of all, I agree completely. I'm with you that this is where Mesa should be putting some energy. A true-to-form, identical IIC+ reissue with a ++ switch or whatever would sell a zillion amps. A true-to-form, identical Rectifier Rev C reissue would sell a zillion amps.

That said, this is true of many makers. For example, why doesn't Diezel make a Blueface VH4 reissue that's a true-to-form, identical reissue? There would be a lot of money in it.

I think one of the reasons it that players will tear these amps apart. You see it happening in this thread.
  • "The IIC+ mode doesn't sound like a IIC+!"
  • "The early revisions sound amazing because of this one capacitor!"
  • "The old 60s UK transformers can't be remade today so it's not a true reissue!"
  • "Marshall put a PCB in this amp! It's garbage!"
  • "My '81 2203 sounds better!"
This is just to say that reissues of these legendary amps are targeted at the same players who will eviscerate them. I am also guilty of this. I own two original '87 Silver Jubilees and bought the new reissue when it came out. It sounded like shit; nothing like the real Jubes. So that reissue was pointless, IMO. You can see the problem.

This feels like one of many reasons why amp makers don't really go down these rabbit holes.
Click to expand...
Yeah man, I totally hear that. But shoot, at least the people crucifying it would wind up buying an amp lol. I’d even pre order it… which I NEVER do. I’m a buy used guy on everything to save from sticker shock.
 
Bram576 said:
Yeah, I don’t know how Mesa hasn’t jumped on this. Just going for a full recreation of a 2c+, with a ++ toggle, maybe the cab clone stuff and that’s it. I’d bet it’d be a more faithful recreation. I’d buy one instantly.

Same with like a rev c rectifier.

I get having all these modes and features on an amp, but it always seems like when there’s that many features on an amp not one thing excels and everything is just okay. That almost always winds up being my beef with these new amp companies sucking and not being memorable at all.

And don’t get me wrong I’m a huge Mesa fan boy.
Click to expand...
I think a lot of the issues involve not having access to older parts they’d have to custom order. Fryette said the iic is super sensitive to component placement/ layout which might have something to do with it. I agree though, give me one or two great sounds and I’m happy.
 
Can't wait to pour over the manual:


main-qimg-4fe0762093fc51c0269d45ecb96d2487-lq.jpg
 
As much as the amp interests me, I can't see paying that amount. If it was around $2,800, then I'd bite. I'm looking forward to the reviews from the ones who are getting this though!
 
MetalThrasher said:
As much as the amp interests me, I can't see paying that amount. If it was around $2,800, then I'd bite. I'm looking forward to the reviews from the ones who are getting this though!
Click to expand...
I feel you, and I know it's crazy to buy an amp you've never heard and know nothing about. Honestly though, I find it kind of fun. I can go into it with zero expectations. Sort of the same reason I'm glad my '83 IIC+ is with Mike B for maintenance: I can take in the Mark VII for what it is. No expectations, no assumptions, just play with the amp and use my ears and see what's there. I think that's the best way to evaluate an amp: no YouTubers, no comparisons, no bullshit. Just plug your guitar into the amp, play around with it, and see what you find. I think if more players did this, they'd find more amps they loved with their own ears rather than what the internet tells them.
 
For those of you
hellzington said:
I feel you, and I know it's crazy to buy an amp you've never heard and know nothing about. Honestly though, I find it kind of fun. I can go into it with zero expectations. Sort of the same reason I'm glad my '83 IIC+ is with Mike B for maintenance: I can take in the Mark VII for what it is. No expectations, no assumptions, just play with the amp and use my ears and see what's there. I think that's the best way to evaluate an amp: no YouTubers, no comparisons, no bullshit. Just plug your guitar into the amp, play around with it, and see what you find. I think if more players did this, they'd find more amps they loved with their own ears rather than what the internet tells them.
Click to expand...
Congrats bro! I can't wait to hear your thoughts. I just wish they had the 2 eq setup like the JP2C.
 
midnightlaundry said:
What's with the cheap Vinyl Covering?? The V was LEATHER..
I don't see a Simul-Class Switch or any other V Power Options..
Click to expand...
The standard Black Taurus covering on other Mesa amps like the Mark V is vinyl, it's just a different kind. It is not leather, just looks like it. A lot of amp companies buy their covering from Kayline Vinyl Processing out of New Jersey, and you can see they sell the Black Taurus as well.

https://www.kayline.com/amp-case-coverings.html
 
headlessdeadguy said:
Off Topic.... My 2555x sounded like shit as well until I swapped the power tubes and set the bias correctly.
Click to expand...
Yep, that would be the reason anyone thought the reissue didn't sound good...I had an 89 black tolex 2555 next to a 2555x and initially, the X didn't sound very good...the power tubes were around 12ma lol. Once I got them up to 34 or so, boom. Exact match to the 89, up to ear bleed level where the original sounded better. But lower volumes they were dead nuts identical.
 
I'm surprised they're sticking with those EQ Knobs.. They sounded like shit when I had a V.. Unusable to me..
I like the MIDI tho.. I wish other companies would do that..
 
hellzington said:
Mesa's manuals are baller-status, though. They actually are funny and interesting. I work in cybersecurity training and always reference them when describing how to write a great user manual.
Click to expand...
Their manuals often read like the snootiest, snobbiest wine review/lifestyle publications. And the verbiage of their older advertisements was akin to clickbait before there were clicks.
 
I order of Uber Ultra
hellzington said:
I feel you, and I know it's crazy to buy an amp you've never heard and know nothing about. Honestly though, I find it kind of fun. I can go into it with zero expectations. Sort of the same reason I'm glad my '83 IIC+ is with Mike B for maintenance: I can take in the Mark VII for what it is. No expectations, no assumptions, just play with the amp and use my ears and see what's there. I think that's the best way to evaluate an amp: no YouTubers, no comparisons, no bullshit. Just plug your guitar into the amp, play around with it, and see what you find. I think if more players did this, they'd find more amps they loved with their own ears rather than what the internet tells them.
Click to expand...
i ordered the new Uber mk 2 with same plan . I have a great vibe for it . Can’t wait
 
Welp, reading the Mark 7 description, it’s a no for me. I’ll reserve final judgement actually playing one. I hope the amp is killer though. This way it should bring down the prices of the Mark 3 and 4’s.

IMO, I think they should have made the JP2C have the same exact lead and crunch channels… this way they can be set to sound similar. I owned a JP2C and was not impressed. Sure it was cool, but it just didn’t do it for me.
 
Last edited:
psychodave said:
Welp, reading the Mark 7 description, it’s a no for me. I’ll reserve final judgement actually playing one. I hope the amp is killer though. This way it should bring down the prices of the Mark 3 and 4’s.
Click to expand...
I’m interested they made a new amp but I just wonder what else they bring to the mark series
 
vultures said:


lol sounds like ass
Click to expand...


Yeah we can definitely tell exactly what it sounds like when we've heard it played by exactly one dude nobody's ever heard of and we have zero clue what cabs or reactive load / IR's he's running with it.

Can we please not turn this into another EVH Iconic episode where half the internet immediately writes off an entire amp forever and ever because of one bad sounding official demo.

edit: fwiw I agree with you that this demo isn't very good at all. But that doesn't say much, just that the demo isn't very good.

edit 2: I cannot fuckin believe there's no Extreme mode equivalent.
 
Last edited:
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top