Rumors of a Mark 6/7 coming on Tuesday?

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hellzington said:
I feel you, and I know it's crazy to buy an amp you've never heard and know nothing about. Honestly though, I find it kind of fun. I can go into it with zero expectations. Sort of the same reason I'm glad my '83 IIC+ is with Mike B for maintenance: I can take in the Mark VII for what it is. No expectations, no assumptions, just play with the amp and use my ears and see what's there. I think that's the best way to evaluate an amp: no YouTubers, no comparisons, no bullshit. Just plug your guitar into the amp, play around with it, and see what you find. I think if more players did this, they'd find more amps they loved with their own ears rather than what the internet tells them.
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I totally agree on ignoring YouTube and others opinions for this, but I think comparisons/reference points are a crucial component. I typically spend a few hours with a new amp alone to get to know it, but I don’t form any real opinions until getting to AB’ing with my amps that have been the keepers/the last men standing out of 100’s. That’s how I really know. It’s the reality check for me that has stopped me from having those bs honeymoon phases with gear. Too many times where I use to think something was killer or not great until the comparisons gave me the info I needed to expose things. Even before I used to compare I’d still eventually come to the same conclusions, but this greatly speeds up the process (for me at least)
 
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braintheory said:
I totally agree on ignoring YouTube and others opinions for this, but I think comparisons/reference points are a crucial component. I typically spend a few hours with a new amp alone to get to know it, but I don’t form any real opinions until getting to AB’ing with my amps that have been the keepers/the last men standing out of 100’s. That’s how I really know. It’s the reality check for me that has stopped me from having those bs honeymoon phases with gear. Too many times where I use to think something was killer or not great until the comparisons gave me the info I needed to expose things. Even before I used to compare I’d still eventually come to the same conclusions, but this greatly speeds up the process (for me at least)
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Bingo. Nailed it.

Your ears get used to sounds really quickly. I've done the exact same thing. It's easy to make stuff sound "fine" or even great in isolation, only for your opinion of that thing to drop like a rock the instant it's put up against other gear. Until you start quickly A/B'ing back and fourth against the real benchmark gear, with all the other elements in the chain being equal, you can't know for sure.
 
TheGreatGreen said:
Yeah we can definitely tell exactly what it sounds like when we've heard it played by exactly one dude nobody's ever heard of and we have zero clue what cabs or reactive load / IR's he's running with it.

Can we please not turn this into another EVH Iconic episode where half the internet immediately writes off an entire amp forever and ever because of one bad sounding official demo.

edit: fwiw I agree with you that this demo isn't very good at all. But that doesn't say much, just that the demo isn't very good.

edit 2: I cannot fuckin believe there's no Extreme mode equivalent.
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Is that mark 7 mode the extreme replacement? I was told that was maybe the case
 
Techdeth said:
Is that mark 7 mode the extreme replacement? I was told that was maybe the case
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In true Official Marketing Guy fashion, the dude in the video is vague as shit about it and speaks in only buzzwords and euphemisms as opposed to anything resembling actual information.

The guy mentions the Mark VII mode is "a juiced up version of the Crunch mode, creating a somewhat bridge where a Rectifier meets a Mark amp" which could mean fucking anything.

It COULD mean that yes it's exactly like what you're saying. Crunch preamp / "Recto" style poweramp setup meaning zero negative feedback, just like the Mark V's Extreme mode was the Mark IV preamp coupled with with zero negative feedback in the poweramp.

Or, it COULD mean "kinda like the Crunch channel but with almost no low end filtering like the Recto preamp has, so it's super fuckin woofy unless you put a bass cutting overdrive in front of it."

Basically we don't know.
 
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TheGreatGreen said:
In true Official Marketing Guy fashion, the dude in the video is vague as shit about it and speaks in only buzzwords and euphemisms as opposed to anything resembling actual information.

The guy mentions the Mark VII mode is "a juiced up version of the Crunch mode, creating a somewhat bridge where a Rectifier meets a Mark amp" which could mean fucking anything.

It COULD mean that yes it's exactly like what you're saying. Crunch preamp / "Recto" style poweramp setup meaning zero negative feedback, just like the Mark V's Extreme mode was the Mark IV preamp coupled with with zero negative feedback in the poweramp.

Or, it COULD mean "kinda like the Crunch channel but with almost no low end filtering like the Recto preamp has, so it's super fuckin woofy unless you put a bass cutting overdrive in front of it."

Basically we don't know.
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The crunch part does make it more confusing
 
In other words, perfect for tim nosac henson post neuter sesh....
 
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SKU said:
This is more like a V:35 rather than the full Mark V. It lacks the tube rectifier, depth pots, solo pots, variac ...
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Nope, it's the full deal.

However, one man's "worse feature set" is another man's "purer signal path" and we still have no idea what the thing sounds like compared to previous Mark amps.
 
More videos are popping up on youtube.

They all sound like shit. Not because the amp is necessarily bad, but because all the demo people seem to think it's totally appropriate to show off the Mark's high gain modes by putting the amp through an open back 1x12 cab with a condenser mic thrown in front of it.

Christ these fucking people.
 
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TheGreatGreen said:
More videos are popping up on youtube.

They all sound like shit. Not because the amp is necessarily bad, but because all the demo people seem to think it's totally appropriate to show off the Mark's high gain modes by putting the amp through an open back 1x12 with a condenser mic thrown in front of it.

Christ these fucking people.
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The nstuff one is brutal
 
SKU said:
I didn't say "worse" or "pure". How is it the full deal if it misses those things and resembles the 5:35 more than the 5:90?
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I just meant it is the full deal because it is the official 90 watt version of the amp. It's the most fully-featured version of the amp, which as you have noticed has considerably fewer bells and whistles than the Mark V.
 
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hellzington said:
I feel you, and I know it's crazy to buy an amp you've never heard and know nothing about. Honestly though, I find it kind of fun. I can go into it with zero expectations. Sort of the same reason I'm glad my '83 IIC+ is with Mike B for maintenance: I can take in the Mark VII for what it is. No expectations, no assumptions, just play with the amp and use my ears and see what's there. I think that's the best way to evaluate an amp: no YouTubers, no comparisons, no bullshit. Just plug your guitar into the amp, play around with it, and see what you find. I think if more players did this, they'd find more amps they loved with their own ears rather than what the internet tells them.
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I think if more player’s did this, they’d play to their own amps then music.
This method is also a big commitment in time and possibly money..and the EMOTIONAL TAX.
To play to the amp in your head before you even know what the sound of the amp is?
-that sounds like Crisco Twister-
Looks like Mesa had pallets of extra MKV headshells that Gibson is capitalizing on.
MKVII my ass.
I was born at night,
-but not last night.
 
Dino 939 said:
I think if more player’s did this, they’d play to their own amps then music.
This method is also a big commitment in time and possibly money..and the EMOTIONAL TAX.
To play to the amp in your head before you even know what the sound of the amp is?
-that sounds like Crisco Twister-
Looks like Mesa had pallets of extra MKV headshells that Gibson is capitalizing on.
MKVII my ass.
I was born at night,
-but not last night.
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And then…the secret handshake cascades the room..
This Mark6 artist only huh??
Boom!!!-there’s the “marketing rub”
-the precipitation..
NO MK6 for you earthlings!
We get the crumbs from the pallets in the corner.
Maybe now these artists will use tube amplifiers instead of modelers?
 
lmao you guys are right, just watched like 5 demos and so far not a single one has sounded even decent. ill have to wait to see someone competent with marks series to check out this one. also the mesa irs suck so much, these guys need to stay off those for demos, jesus christ. i had those irs in the badlander and the mesa cab clone ir and yanked them out for something decent day one.
 
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Holy shit, Premier Guitar just put out a video where the guy says "look how easy it is to swap between 6L6's and EL34's" and then dude just flips the EL34 switch and keeps on playing with the 6L6's... LOL.

Video linked to the quote at 9:40

 
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