Sammy Hagar bashes DLR and Van Halen

[RG955TT]

The reality is nobody cares what Sammy Hagar thinks. He needs to just go fuck himself. And he's responsible for getting Mike Anthony kicked out of the band. If MA was in there holding down the vocals, none of these Roth bashing threads would exist. MA was the glue that held that band together but the dipshit burned the bridge.

A little harsh don't you think? Or do you know more than we do? I really don't know who could have done a better job in that band when they kicked Roth out. I don't know, I like Sammy, seems like a cool guy that has his shit together. And I always like his voice. Everyone forgets he had a really cookin solo career when he joined VH.

Not really. He's a douche. I read his book and then threw it in the garbage. The guy is so hung up on getting tossed out of VH, talks shit about them and expects them to come crawling back to him. Meanwhile VH reforms with DLR and proceeds to kill it despite his vocal shortcomings.

Uh OK, that's your opinion. I don't find him to be a douche....nor were the decisions made by the VH brothers his doing as it concerns MA. MA has said many times he just wanted to work and Eddie was already playing a lot of bass on the albums by then. Plus he was insane from drugs and whatever during that whole period...was that Sammy's fault too? Jeeze dude, lighten up on Sammy. I think Roth is King douche but Im not trashing him here. At least Sammy can sing and front the band without looking like a complete tool and sounding like crap. Still could too....at 68 no less

 

[jabps]

The reality is nobody cares what Sammy Hagar thinks. He needs to just go fuck himself. And he's responsible for getting Mike Anthony kicked out of the band. If MA was in there holding down the vocals, none of these Roth bashing threads would exist. MA was the glue that held that band together but the dipshit burned the bridge.

A little harsh don't you think? Or do you know more than we do? I really don't know who could have done a better job in that band when they kicked Roth out. I don't know, I like Sammy, seems like a cool guy that has his shit together. And I always like his voice. Everyone forgets he had a really cookin solo career when he joined VH.

Not really. He's a douche. I read his book and then threw it in the garbage. The guy is so hung up on getting tossed out of VH, talks shit about them and expects them to come crawling back to him. Meanwhile VH reforms with DLR and proceeds to kill it despite his vocal shortcomings.

Uh OK, that's your opinion. I don't find him to be a douche....nor were the decisions made by the VH brothers his doing as it concerns MA. MA has said many times he just wanted to work and Eddie was already playing a lot of bass on the albums by then. Plus he was insane from drugs and whatever during that whole period...was that Sammy's fault too? Jeeze dude, lighten up on Sammy. I think Roth is King douche but Im not trashing him here. At least Sammy can sing and front the band without looking like a complete tool and sounding like crap. Still could too....at 68 no less

There's a lot more to the MA story and the VH brothers. A lot of this boils down to how things ended with the Cabo Wabo club and the sale of the tequila...the brothers thought they were getting a raw deal, Sammy thought other wise, MA was told to cease activities with Hagar and he didn't. Oddly enough the last Van Hagar tour Mike was paid as a sideman and not as a full member like Sammy was...why didn't Sam stick up for Mike then. As a person, I don't like Hagar...he's burned a lot of people and bridges in the business...his treatment of his ex wife was pretty pathetic. On the other hand...it's not like the VH brothers are a beacon of honesty and ethics.

Then again that's the music business and exactly why Hagar is bashing at the moment...he has a new band, new tour, what better way to generate some press than to bash your old employer.

 

[andross182]

DLR sounds quite rough in the new album, and his "entertaining" is quite out of time, its almost embarrassing, however Eddie looks amazing, he made quite a turn around!

 

[the rossness]

As much as I like a DLR fronted VH, Sammy is 100% right.

I'd still like to see more new music from VH. Dave should write and record with the Van Halens. Mikey should do background vocals for the albums. Sammy should be their touring singer. That way, everyone wins.

 

[Stramm8]

The reality is nobody cares what Sammy Hagar thinks. He needs to just go fuck himself. And he's responsible for getting Mike Anthony kicked out of the band. If MA was in there holding down the vocals, none of these Roth bashing threads would exist. MA was the glue that held that band together but the dipshit burned the bridge.

A little harsh don't you think? Or do you know more than we do? I really don't know who could have done a better job in that band when they kicked Roth out. I don't know, I like Sammy, seems like a cool guy that has his shit together. And I always like his voice. Everyone forgets he had a really cookin solo career when he joined VH.

Not really. He's a douche. I read his book and then threw it in the garbage. The guy is so hung up on getting tossed out of VH, talks shit about them and expects them to come crawling back to him. Meanwhile VH reforms with DLR and proceeds to kill it despite his vocal shortcomings.

Uh OK, that's your opinion. I don't find him to be a douche....nor were the decisions made by the VH brothers his doing as it concerns MA. MA has said many times he just wanted to work and Eddie was already playing a lot of bass on the albums by then. Plus he was insane from drugs and whatever during that whole period...was that Sammy's fault too? Jeeze dude, lighten up on Sammy. I think Roth is King douche but Im not trashing him here. At least Sammy can sing and front the band without looking like a complete tool and sounding like crap. Still could too....at 68 no less

No shit it's my opinion. You don't have to agree with it. MA chose to work in Sammy Hagar's cover band; brilliant move!! And with that said I will not lighten up on Sammy Hagar. You see there are two types of people in this world Roth era VH and Sammy era VH. It is a fact that roth era VH is the only real VH. You obviously prefer the next best thing with all of the sappy ballads and sing-alongs and super white teeth and bicycle shorts and tequila etc. Whatever; not judging. I just hate Sammy Hagar. He's not a "cool dude". Hes a dick. DLR love him or hate him is not a dick. If it wasn't for Dave there would be no Van Halen for that jackass Sammy Hagar to wish he could sing for again.

 

[Stramm8]

Double post

 

[Alex Stanley]

The reality is nobody cares what Sammy Hagar thinks. He needs to just go fuck himself. And he's responsible for getting Mike Anthony kicked out of the band. If MA was in there holding down the vocals, none of these Roth bashing threads would exist. MA was the glue that held that band together but the dipshit burned the bridge.

I doubt Michael Anthony's backup vocals would help Dave's lead vocals sound any better. I know they wouldn't, but I'm giving you the benefit of a doubt. When it comes to lead vocals, David couldn't wipe Sammy's ass on his best days.

 

[Stramm8]

The reality is nobody cares what Sammy Hagar thinks. He needs to just go fuck himself. And he's responsible for getting Mike Anthony kicked out of the band. If MA was in there holding down the vocals, none of these Roth bashing threads would exist. MA was the glue that held that band together but the dipshit burned the bridge.

I doubt Michael Anthony's backup vocals would help Dave's lead vocals sound any better. I know they wouldn't, but I'm giving you the benefit of a doubt. When it comes to lead vocals, David couldn't wipe Sammy's ass on his best days.

Have you ever been to or watched a roth era VH show on YouTube?? Like someone else mentioned you don't watch to see Dave nail the vocal on RWTD. It was th spectacle of VH. Roth utters a few words here and there, fires up the crowd while MA and Ed to a degree do all of the "singing". Sammy is a better singer no doubt...

 

[shredhead7]

Sammy is right. But people want to see Dave and Sammy can't understand why. Sammy doesn't need the money, he has more than all of VH combined. Sammy needs to be loved and play the arenas, and there just aren't enough people that care about 3 Lock Box, Cabo Wabo, and Tequila.

 

[BYTOR]

Eddie would be way happier at this point playing live with & writing for Sammy's vocal range than Roth.........Sammy would love to front VH again......sometimes egos/burnt bridges & insecure personalities get in the way of fixing shit that both parties really want & would benefit from.

Classic Roth VH will always rule, but Roth has become an embarrassment live at this point. Both the singing & antics. He was never a great singer live, but he sounded & looked cool & had a larger than life persona..............all that is gone now. His voice is shot & his antics are like that sad/embarrassing drunk uncle.......

 

[Kevin11]

DLR love him or hate him is not a dick.

Sorry man, but every time I hear DLR call one of his tech crew a f-ing moron in the middle of a freaking show, he sure seems like a dick to me. I'm sure it's part of his shtick, but it's a dicky part of his shtick.

 

[Alex Stanley]

Have you ever been to or watched a roth era VH show on YouTube?? Like someone else mentioned you don't watch to see Dave nail the vocal on RWTD. It was th spectacle of VH. Roth utters a few words here and there, fires up the crowd while MA and Ed to a degree do all of the "singing". Sammy is a better singer no doubt...

I've been to, and watched, many DLR era Van Halen shows in the flesh. Don't get me wrong, I love Van Halen, as well as Van Hagar. Dave is Dave, and he used to fit the band, vocalwise and stage presence-wise. I have a very old bootleg cd of a live Van Halen show in Tokyo. He nails it, and sounds great, proving he could sing at some point. These days, he's a sideshow. No voice, and acts like a nervous teen on stage for the first time. God love him to be able to have the opportunity to tour with the band again, while not needing the money.

 

[RG955TT]

The reality is nobody cares what Sammy Hagar thinks. He needs to just go fuck himself. And he's responsible for getting Mike Anthony kicked out of the band. If MA was in there holding down the vocals, none of these Roth bashing threads would exist. MA was the glue that held that band together but the dipshit burned the bridge.

A little harsh don't you think? Or do you know more than we do? I really don't know who could have done a better job in that band when they kicked Roth out. I don't know, I like Sammy, seems like a cool guy that has his shit together. And I always like his voice. Everyone forgets he had a really cookin solo career when he joined VH.

Not really. He's a douche. I read his book and then threw it in the garbage. The guy is so hung up on getting tossed out of VH, talks shit about them and expects them to come crawling back to him. Meanwhile VH reforms with DLR and proceeds to kill it despite his vocal shortcomings.

Uh OK, that's your opinion. I don't find him to be a douche....nor were the decisions made by the VH brothers his doing as it concerns MA. MA has said many times he just wanted to work and Eddie was already playing a lot of bass on the albums by then. Plus he was insane from drugs and whatever during that whole period...was that Sammy's fault too? Jeeze dude, lighten up on Sammy. I think Roth is King douche but Im not trashing him here. At least Sammy can sing and front the band without looking like a complete tool and sounding like crap. Still could too....at 68 no less

No shit it's my opinion. You don't have to agree with it. MA chose to work in Sammy Hagar's cover band; brilliant move!! And with that said I will not lighten up on Sammy Hagar. You see there are two types of people in this world Roth era VH and Sammy era VH. It is a fact that roth era VH is the only real VH. You obviously prefer the next best thing with all of the sappy ballads and sing-alongs and super white teeth and bicycle shorts and tequila etc. Whatever; not judging. I just hate Sammy Hagar. He's not a "cool dude". Hes a dick. DLR love him or hate him is not a dick. If it wasn't for Dave there would be no Van Halen for that jackass Sammy Hagar to wish he could sing for again.

FYI by an aweful lot of accounts DLR was and is a dick. FWIW I actually like DLR era VH better than Sammy era but there some great tunes there as well. You do know Eddie wrote those sappy tunes with Sammy right? You hate on people you don't really know, says more about you

 

[Shawn Lutz]

Didn't see that as bashing really and bet the band and Dave say the same things.

DLR is there for a reason....it is what the fans wanted. DLR was always a bit of ht or miss live but the dude can entertain and one of the best frontmen in the business.

You can throw out all the Hagar is a better and 10x the vocalist Dave could be, or the Van Hagar era was better written songs or that Michael Anthony is better bass player back up vocalist all you want. The first two Van Halen records with Ed, Dave, Alex and Mike are classics and that line up was one of the best rock bands ever in my opinion anyway,

 

[crwnedblasphemy]

what does Mitch Malloy think?

 

[kasperjensen]

Eddie would be way happier at this point playing live with & writing for Sammy's vocal range than Roth.........Sammy would love to front VH again......sometimes egos/burnt bridges & insecure personalities get in the way of fixing shit that both parties really want & would benefit from.

Classic Roth VH will always rule, but Roth has become an embarrassment live at this point. Both the singing & antics. He was never a great singer live, but he sounded & looked cool & had a larger than life persona..............all that is gone now. His voice is shot & his antics are like that sad/embarrassing drunk uncle.......

 

[jabps]

Eddie would be way happier at this point playing live with & writing for Sammy's vocal range than Roth.........Sammy would love to front VH again......sometimes egos/burnt bridges & insecure personalities get in the way of fixing shit that both parties really want & would benefit from.

Classic Roth VH will always rule, but Roth has become an embarrassment live at this point. Both the singing & antics. He was never a great singer live, but he sounded & looked cool & had a larger than life persona..............all that is gone now. His voice is shot & his antics are like that sad/embarrassing drunk uncle.......

Well if that's what would make Ed happy...then why hasn't he called Hagar. All it would take is a phone call and Hagar would jump at the chance to return to VH. Sure ego's somewhat part of it, maybe as I posted above the brothers are still chaffed over what they perceived as getting fleeced by Hagar in the Tequila and club deal. Regardless all Ed has to do is say is lets do this and Hagar would come crawling back.

The fact is nobody knows what Ed is thinking other than Ed...and regardless of speculation, he's doing it with Roth so on some level he's obviously satisfied in what he's doing because he certainly doesn't need the money nor does he ever have to play another note live with Dave if he didn't want too.

 

[RG955TT]

Really? Sammy would be crawling back? You guys crack me up!

 

[mikey]

DLR is an entertainer who tries to sing. Hagar is a singer who tries to entertain.

This is the long & short of it.

 

[Wagster]

Sammy needs to learn to take the high road, his comments make him sound salty.