So I was contemplating a Les Paul

[thunda]

It's those "big assed frets" that keeps me from buying one. I simply hate big assed frets. But that's just me. I'm a medium jumbo kind of guy...

I have heard of guitars being refretted.

yes, but have you had it done? I've seen some scary stuff...

 

[snowdog]

It's those "big assed frets" that keeps me from buying one. I simply hate big assed frets. But that's just me. I'm a medium jumbo kind of guy...

I have heard of guitars being refretted.

yes, but have you had it done? I've seen some scary stuff...

Yes, had my SG done. They did a great job on it.

 

[ibenhad]

IMHO a PRS will not scratch the itch very much. They have much better QC and are really really well made nice instruments and I have owned several. THEY ARE NOT A LES PAUL. I have a Custom 24 and it does not even compete sound wise with my Les Pauls. It sure sounds good and plays nice and all, alas it is just never going to be a Les Paul. Don't know that it is supposed to. I'm just saying if a Les Paul is what you want/need/crave get one. By the way I won't eat White Castle burgers from the grocery store either. I have to drive at least an hour each way to get them when I crave them. But when I do!!!!! MMMM MMMMM GOOD...



P.S. Think of the difference between a fleshlight and the real deal. They both get the job done right?

 

[glip22]

IMHO a PRS will not scratch the itch very much. They have much better QC and are really really well made nice instruments and I have owned several. THEY ARE NOT A LES PAUL. I have a Custom 24 and it does not even compete sound wise with my Les Pauls. It sure sounds good and plays nice and all, alas it is just never going to be a Les Paul. Don't know that it is supposed to. I'm just saying if a Les Paul is what you want/need/crave get one. By the way I won't eat White Castle burgers from the grocery store either. I have to drive at least an hour each way to get them when I crave them. But when I do!!!!! MMMM MMMMM GOOD...



P.S. Think of the difference between a fleshlight and the real deal. They both get the job done right?

I agree about White Castles. But Man I think it is the onions that will kill you. I get them with no onion and it saves me from the bathroom trips and cramps. So a PRS is like White Castle without the onions? Is this what you are saying

 

[LP Freak]

IMHO a PRS will not scratch the itch very much. They have much better QC and are really really well made nice instruments and I have owned several. THEY ARE NOT A LES PAUL. I have a Custom 24 and it does not even compete sound wise with my Les Pauls. It sure sounds good and plays nice and all, alas it is just never going to be a Les Paul. Don't know that it is supposed to. I'm just saying if a Les Paul is what you want/need/crave get one. By the way I won't eat White Castle burgers from the grocery store either. I have to drive at least an hour each way to get them when I crave them. But when I do!!!!! MMMM MMMMM GOOD...



P.S. Think of the difference between a fleshlight and the real deal. They both get the job done right?

I agree about White Castles. But Man I think it is the onions that will kill you. I get them with no onion and it saves me from the bathroom trips and cramps. So a PRS is like White Castle without the onions? Is this what you are saying

I go for extra onions on those days I want to crank 'em out.

 

[thunda]

White Castle White Schmastle. Krystals are da bomb. Da gut bomb!

 

[ibenhad]

Find me a Krystals within a hour and a half drive of Fishkill, NY and I'm there. Just no mustard please.

 

[thiswaythatway]

IMHO a PRS will not scratch the itch very much. They have much better QC and are really really well made nice instruments and I have owned several. THEY ARE NOT A LES PAUL. I have a Custom 24 and it does not even compete sound wise with my Les Pauls. It sure sounds good and plays nice and all, alas it is just never going to be a Les Paul. Don't know that it is supposed to. I'm just saying if a Les Paul is what you want/need/crave get one. By the way I won't eat White Castle burgers from the grocery store either. I have to drive at least an hour each way to get them when I crave them. But when I do!!!!! MMMM MMMMM GOOD...



P.S. Think of the difference between a fleshlight and the real deal. They both get the job done right?

Of course a Custom 24 doesn't sound like a Les Paul. Charvels, Suhr's, Ernie Balls, Ibanez don't either. If someone wants a great Les Paul "style" guitar it doesn't have to say Gibson on it though...IMHO.

I know the guys playing here isn't exactly earth shattering but it was funny as Hell that he asked people which Les Paul sounded the best and he slipped in a PRS without telling anyone. Guess which guitar got the most votes for best tone? DOH!!!
https://www.thegearpage.net/board/showth ... p?t=950610

 

[tech21man]

Epi tribute plus
I own one and it rivals a lot of $2000 gibsons i have played.
real maple top,classic 57 pu's grover tuners,long neck tenon, hard to beat for the $$$
http://www.epiphone.com/Products/Les-Pa ... utfit.aspx
and the epi elite series are killer for the $$$

Dude I compared one of the tribute plus (that midnight blue burst something) with several other lps and I couldn't believe my ears but it sounded just fine (like a great...lp!). Indeed, real maple top, 3 piece (correct lines not vertical from the side and veneered) mahogany body, neck with scarf joint. Great finish. Great electronics and long tennon. It was amazing. Oh neck was a slim 60s assymetrical and it felt great. And immaculate fretwork on that one. I don't know how they do it for such a price.

MANY gibsons I've played sounded worse and a lot sounded even better but the the epi is an overachiever, amazing at the price. If you can shop around for a good one that you like its sound immediately you are set.

I think the bonamassa and slash models are also the same underneath (maple top and correct wood).


I laugh at the guys that say a good epiphone or other brand will never have the "sound" of a true les paul. The thread in tgp that they voted the PRS was very funny on this subject also! If they were with us that day with the tribute plus, they'd eat their words for sure. Simple as that.

A true lp (and huge slash) fan (which I am not really to be honest) friend of mine also bought that pos epi slash signature with the snake tatoo on the curly red maple top from 199X-2000 something?

He hated the pickups, feel was not good as a guitar and felt like a toy vs his gibsons but the fact remained, that he managed to track with her so close to his "real" les pauls that it was really bothering him, without even a pickup change.


But truth is, some features on real gibson les pauls are unique to the brand and even before you get to the "how does it sound" part, there are kind of exclusive to them and for me, affect the feel and psychological factor that may or not matter to the buyer...


Like, nitro finish obviously, even the damn smell and the way the paint (or absence of) and buff on the body reflects light. Gives that luxury furniture vibe which will not be there in other lps.

Also correct dimensions (bridge and string to string distance), correct fret size and type and that headstock with 17 degrees pitch that creates more tension for the same tuning and gives a stiffer more serious feel and perhaps a bit (marginal...) difference in sound? Not present on the epi tribute or norlins for example.

Fret edge binding on older ones etc. Quartersawn mahogany necks instead of flat sawn mystery mahogany like woods on other brands (go figure if it's nato or sapele or agathis...could be anything like that and kind of resemble mahogany in looks.).

If you want some (or all of them) of that nothing but a gibson (or tokai or navigator or heritage etc) will do.


Also I am open in conspiracy or whatever theories that gibson lps that make it on europe or whatever are rejects or maybe affected in transportation.


Gibson consistency? In what? Sound? Pfff...Not a chance. Played and owned similar sgs or even les pauls (two classics) that were like night a day in crucial factors. Weight, sound and quality. Half of them didn't have excellent fretwork that should, for the price. Others were dead, like...duds. One had binding that you can't get your head around as to how it left the factory...Analogy could be like 5/10 for as many incidents I know/had. I know this may not be the case in the USA, most people say that gibson consistenly (well, at least used to) offer quality made guitars and hardware and features used to reflect that on the sound immediately.

However and again in my experience this isn't the case in whatever lands here. You have to shop around for a les paul or gibson that will suit you and be ok. Isn't that the case for any guitar? Sure, only that if I buy a cheaper guitar online I won't really be bothered so much vs ordering an lp standard for the prices they go for. At least resale is usually easy and you don't lose money easily.

 

[Stumplegriltskin]

That EPI LP headstock is the ugliest thing I've ever seen.

 

[charvelstrat81]

That EPI LP headstock is the ugliest thing I've ever seen.

uglier than this?

and while i agree they aint the prettiest headstock and should have been this

they are by no means the ugliest

 

[thiswaythatway]

That EPI LP headstock is the ugliest thing I've ever seen.

Nothing is worse than this gumby abortion of a headstock IMHO.

 

[thunda]

Find me a Krystals within a hour and a half drive of Fishkill, NY and I'm there. Just no mustard please.

no problemo if you drive a Maserati...

 

[snowdog]

Nothing is worse than this gumby abortion of a headstock IMHO.

A cut out of Gumby would be better for sure.

 

[lester]

I love it! It's like a big ol' middle finger to all the headstock complainers out there.

 

[Stumplegriltskin]

I love it! It's like a big ol' middle finger to all the headstock complainers out there.

A couple more James Tyler's are needed on that. There's room for at least 3 more.

 

[lester]

Wrap that shit around -

That's 150.00 extra though.

The idea behind the headstock is pretty simple really...it's a hand shaped kinda like a gun.

 

[Stumplegriltskin]

How much to cover the whole body I wonder?

 

['63-Strat]

Stumbled upon these. These look fucking top notch. Christ I got a chubby. Problem is where the hell to get one. MIJ.
There's a few on ebay, but not the style I want.

http://www.fgnguitars.com/fl_all.html

To each their own... that thing looks fugly to me

 

[tubortski]

Gumby abortion...