So what is the Sunset Strip like today?

[James Lugo]

For me I played and lived on Sunset in it's hey day '85-'89. It's nothing like that anymore. Still pretty cool though, The Key Club usually sucks IMO but the Rainbow still can be a fun hang. No more street energy with bands and groupies, very urban/hip hop. Unfortunately pop/R&B and hip hop/dance have taken over the planet as the cool people. Hey when one of the biggest rockstars around is making indie films about old studios that closed you know the shark hath been jumped. Nothin better to do I guess. I do miss the old Hollywood though but I will say people are a lot nicer now down there. Back in the day rockers were pretty cruel to each other, very competitive and it bread a lot of nastiness. Today everyone is so PC, it's awesome, now everyone's allowed in the bathroom at after parties to do blow and drink beer...lol You'd have to be from LA in the 80's to get that joke.

 

[stephen sawall]

So when did the strip take a dive? I went to LA in 1994 for 2 weeks and we tried to catch some shows but all we saw were punk bands and the only long hair scene we found was at the Rainbow. But right around 94 is when grunge really got popular.

Here in the NYC/NJ area the clubs are/were really spread out. We used to go to Brooklyn to Lamours and that place was fucking nuts in the late 80's and very early 90's.

In NJ there's always been the Stone Pony, there was the old Fast Lanes which is gone. City Gardens..gone. Studio one in Newark...gone. Murphy's Law in Long Branch...gone. Birch Hill in Oldbridge...gone.

Ya see you fucking grungers, we said your bullshit would be the start of the end of it all. Everyone got into grunge then all of a sudden it was cool to listen to M&M. Fuck that.

You know it's funny I was living here in Seattle around 86-89 doing gigs with many of the bands known as grunge ... no one called it that. I was friends with many of these people. They just wanted to be heavy & slow it down. I then spent a few years around Michigan, Chicago & Tampa .... and returned to Seattle around 94. At that time the local music scene had got huge. The Rocket magazine when I left in 89 listed about 150 bands local that played rock & had just about everyone. When I returned in 94 it had listed 6000 bands & figured it had less than half listed.
By this time around here the term "grunge" was kind of a joke .... it was just for "posers". You would see ads for Kmart selling "grunge style cloths". Even the people that helped create it often hated it. Larry Brewer a good friend of mine in the late 80's had recorded a lot of these bands & I was there most nights hanging out in the studio ... or shopping bands at clubs with him. I was the one that really pushed for more bass in the mix & all we really wanted was it to sound more like the MSG & the Scorpions.... the Europe stuff from earlier in particular the German stuff. We felt that music had become too fake ... lost it's soul. Guys dressing up like women .... music with little or no feeling. But by this time 94 it had become product & the local scene was no longer the same. I did spend a fair amount of time in Newark & New York in the late 70's & early 80's & remember that scene.

 

[TrueTone500]

So when did the strip take a dive? I went to LA in 1994 for 2 weeks and we tried to catch some shows but all we saw were punk bands and the only long hair scene we found was at the Rainbow. But right around 94 is when grunge really got popular.

Here in the NYC/NJ area the clubs are/were really spread out. We used to go to Brooklyn to Lamours and that place was fucking nuts in the late 80's and very early 90's.

In NJ there's always been the Stone Pony, there was the old Fast Lanes which is gone. City Gardens..gone. Studio one in Newark...gone. Murphy's Law in Long Branch...gone. Birch Hill in Oldbridge...gone.

Ya see you fucking grungers, we said your bullshit would be the start of the end of it all. Everyone got into grunge then all of a sudden it was cool to listen to M&M. Fuck that.

You know it's funny I was living here in Seattle around 86-89 doing gigs with many of the bands known as grunge ... no one called it that. I was friends with many of these people. They just wanted to be heavy & slow it down. I then spent a few years around Michigan, Chicago & Tampa .... and returned to Seattle around 94. At that time the local music scene had got huge. The Rocket magazine when I left in 89 listed about 150 bands local that played rock & had just about everyone. When I returned in 94 it had listed 6000 bands & figured it had less than half listed.
By this time around here the term "grunge" was kind of a joke .... it was just for "posers". You would see ads for Kmart selling "grunge style cloths". Even the people that helped create it often hated it. Larry Brewer a good friend of mine in the late 80's had recorded a lot of these bands & I was there most nights hanging out in the studio ... or shopping bands at clubs with him. I was the one that really pushed for more bass in the mix & all we really wanted was it to sound more like the MSG & the Scorpions.... the Europe stuff from earlier in particular the German stuff. We felt that music had become too fake ... lost it's soul. Guys dressing up like women .... music with little or no feeling. But by this time 94 it had become product & the local scene was no longer the same. I did spend a fair amount of time in Newark & New York in the late 70's & early 80's & remember that scene.

Luckily, the Hollywood pop-rock thing never took-hold in Florida. We went from a southern rock scene straight into bands like Savatage, Testament, Morbid Angel, Obituary...etc. Hairspray and lipstick would have grounds for a serious southern-fried ass-beating!

We didn't refer to fans as 'poseurs'. Bands like Ratt, Poison, Motley Crue, Faster Pussy Cat, Dokken, Guns and Roses..etc. were deemed 'poseurs'. Basically, most of what was coming out of Hollywood, CA at that time. Excuse me, but did I hear Vince Neil say; "...metal started on the Sunset Strip"?

 

[Bob Savage]

Hollywood and the original live music scene in general was a blast from 81-84. I lost interest when it turned glam.

 

[shredhead7]

The sunset strip was like a big dream to me when I was in high school (graduated in 91). I'm sorry that I never made it out there and that it's gone, but it's gone everywhere (for musicians). I think that us former hair metalers like to believe that the strip was as good as it ever got, but if you watch Ken Burns "Jazz" and think of NYC in the 30's and 40's with the speak easys, THOSE were the days to be a musician and to be a fan of music. There were like 6000 "bars" in Harlem alone, that would have been the shit to have been a part of.

 

[Meathead]

The sunset strip was like a big dream to me when I was in high school (graduated in 91). I'm sorry that I never made it out there and that it's gone, but it's gone everywhere (for musicians). I think that us former hair metalers like to believe that the strip was as good as it ever got, but if you watch Ken Burns "Jazz" and think of NYC in the 30's and 40's with the speak easys, THOSE were the days to be a musician and to be a fan of music. There were like 6000 "bars" in Harlem alone, that would have been the shit to have been a part of.

Good point!

I was in New Orleans a few weeks ago and it still has a really cool music scene. Clubs open all night with some great players. Some musicians play/work from noon until three in the morning. Then instead of going home to bed, they wander over to another club and sit in with another band and play until sunrise. These guys live to play. Check out the French Quarter sometime.

 

[Woodsie]

Every genre had its hay day. Take the Chicago Blues scene. Still known for it but it ain't the same.

 

[shredhead7]

The sunset strip was like a big dream to me when I was in high school (graduated in 91). I'm sorry that I never made it out there and that it's gone, but it's gone everywhere (for musicians). I think that us former hair metalers like to believe that the strip was as good as it ever got, but if you watch Ken Burns "Jazz" and think of NYC in the 30's and 40's with the speak easys, THOSE were the days to be a musician and to be a fan of music. There were like 6000 "bars" in Harlem alone, that would have been the shit to have been a part of.

Good point!

I was in New Orleans a few weeks ago and it still has a really cool music scene. Clubs open all night with some great players. Some musicians play/work from noon until three in the morning. Then instead of going home to bed, they wander over to another club and sit in with another band and play until sunrise. These guys live to play. Check out the French Quarter sometime.

I have been to the French Quarter and I loved it!! I love old school swing and New Orleans jazz, and while I only caught a couple of acts, (mostly Armstrong clones), I was still in heaven. One of the best nights of my life from a music and bar hopping stand point. I would love to go back and do it again.

 

[Drew]

..... It's dirty, over-priced, packed with poseurs, and some awful bands too.

I can't wait to go there tomorrow night!

This made me laugh out loud!

 

[stephen sawall]

So when did the strip take a dive? I went to LA in 1994 for 2 weeks and we tried to catch some shows but all we saw were punk bands and the only long hair scene we found was at the Rainbow. But right around 94 is when grunge really got popular.

Here in the NYC/NJ area the clubs are/were really spread out. We used to go to Brooklyn to Lamours and that place was fucking nuts in the late 80's and very early 90's.

In NJ there's always been the Stone Pony, there was the old Fast Lanes which is gone. City Gardens..gone. Studio one in Newark...gone. Murphy's Law in Long Branch...gone. Birch Hill in Oldbridge...gone.

Ya see you fucking grungers, we said your bullshit would be the start of the end of it all. Everyone got into grunge then all of a sudden it was cool to listen to M&M. Fuck that.

You know it's funny I was living here in Seattle around 86-89 doing gigs with many of the bands known as grunge ... no one called it that. I was friends with many of these people. They just wanted to be heavy & slow it down. I then spent a few years around Michigan, Chicago & Tampa .... and returned to Seattle around 94. At that time the local music scene had got huge. The Rocket magazine when I left in 89 listed about 150 bands local that played rock & had just about everyone. When I returned in 94 it had listed 6000 bands & figured it had less than half listed.
By this time around here the term "grunge" was kind of a joke .... it was just for "posers". You would see ads for Kmart selling "grunge style cloths". Even the people that helped create it often hated it. Larry Brewer a good friend of mine in the late 80's had recorded a lot of these bands & I was there most nights hanging out in the studio ... or shopping bands at clubs with him. I was the one that really pushed for more bass in the mix & all we really wanted was it to sound more like the MSG & the Scorpions.... the Europe stuff from earlier in particular the German stuff. We felt that music had become too fake ... lost it's soul. Guys dressing up like women .... music with little or no feeling. But by this time 94 it had become product & the local scene was no longer the same. I did spend a fair amount of time in Newark & New York in the late 70's & early 80's & remember that scene.

Luckily, the Hollywood pop-rock thing never took-hold in Florida. We went from a southern rock scene straight into bands like Savatage, Testament, Morbid Angel, Obituary...etc. Hairspray and lipstick would have grounds for a serious southern-fried ass-beating!

We didn't refer to fans as 'poseurs'. Bands like Ratt, Poison, Motley Crue, Faster Pussy Cat, Dokken, Guns and Roses..etc. were deemed 'poseurs'. Basically, most of what was coming out of Hollywood, CA at that time. Excuse me, but did I hear Vince Neil say; "...metal started on the Sunset Strip"?

I have family & have lived in Tampa & Orlando .... The Metal scene down there was pretty good. Orlando was one of the best places in the world to pick up women ... when Church Street was happening. Lots of drunk people only in town for less than a week. The Disney music being played in public parks always made me laugh....

danyeo ....Do not take my commits the wrong way. I did not like much of the "grunge" stuff. By the time it was pop I hated a lot of it myself.

 

[thiswaythatway]

So when did the strip take a dive? I went to LA in 1994 for 2 weeks and we tried to catch some shows but all we saw were punk bands and the only long hair scene we found was at the Rainbow. But right around 94 is when grunge really got popular.

Here in the NYC/NJ area the clubs are/were really spread out. We used to go to Brooklyn to Lamours and that place was fucking nuts in the late 80's and very early 90's.

In NJ there's always been the Stone Pony, there was the old Fast Lanes which is gone. City Gardens..gone. Studio one in Newark...gone. Murphy's Law in Long Branch...gone. Birch Hill in Oldbridge...gone.

Ya see you fucking grungers, we said your bullshit would be the start of the end of it all. Everyone got into grunge then all of a sudden it was cool to listen to M&M. Fuck that.

You know it's funny I was living here in Seattle around 86-89 doing gigs with many of the bands known as grunge ... no one called it that. I was friends with many of these people. They just wanted to be heavy & slow it down. I then spent a few years around Michigan, Chicago & Tampa .... and returned to Seattle around 94. At that time the local music scene had got huge. The Rocket magazine when I left in 89 listed about 150 bands local that played rock & had just about everyone. When I returned in 94 it had listed 6000 bands & figured it had less than half listed.
By this time around here the term "grunge" was kind of a joke .... it was just for "posers". You would see ads for Kmart selling "grunge style cloths". Even the people that helped create it often hated it. Larry Brewer a good friend of mine in the late 80's had recorded a lot of these bands & I was there most nights hanging out in the studio ... or shopping bands at clubs with him. I was the one that really pushed for more bass in the mix & all we really wanted was it to sound more like the MSG & the Scorpions.... the Europe stuff from earlier in particular the German stuff. We felt that music had become too fake ... lost it's soul. Guys dressing up like women .... music with little or no feeling. But by this time 94 it had become product & the local scene was no longer the same. I did spend a fair amount of time in Newark & New York in the late 70's & early 80's & remember that scene.

Luckily, the Hollywood pop-rock thing never took-hold in Florida. We went from a southern rock scene straight into bands like Savatage, Testament, Morbid Angel, Obituary...etc. Hairspray and lipstick would have grounds for a serious southern-fried ass-beating!

We didn't refer to fans as 'poseurs'. Bands like Ratt, Poison, Motley Crue, Faster Pussy Cat, Dokken, Guns and Roses..etc. were deemed 'poseurs'. Basically, most of what was coming out of Hollywood, CA at that time. Excuse me, but did I hear Vince Neil say; "...metal started on the Sunset Strip"?

I have family & have lived in Tampa & Orlando .... The Metal scene down there was pretty good. Orlando was one of the best places in the world to pick up women ... when Church Street was happening. Lots of drunk people only in town for less than a week. The Disney music being played in public parks always made me laugh....

danyeo ....Do not take my commits the wrong way. I did not like much of the "grunge" stuff. By the time it was pop I hated a lot of it myself.

I just remember in the 90's the clear channel radio station out of NYC played grunge 24/7. Then they started mixing in NIN, then M&M, an it seemed like next thing you knew people that used to be into rock were wearing baggy fucking pants and talking like a ghetto rat. And at one point a bunch of new bands all sounded gay at the same time like Breakfast At Tiffany's or some shit.

 

[stephen sawall]

So when did the strip take a dive? I went to LA in 1994 for 2 weeks and we tried to catch some shows but all we saw were punk bands and the only long hair scene we found was at the Rainbow. But right around 94 is when grunge really got popular.

Here in the NYC/NJ area the clubs are/were really spread out. We used to go to Brooklyn to Lamours and that place was fucking nuts in the late 80's and very early 90's.

In NJ there's always been the Stone Pony, there was the old Fast Lanes which is gone. City Gardens..gone. Studio one in Newark...gone. Murphy's Law in Long Branch...gone. Birch Hill in Oldbridge...gone.

Ya see you fucking grungers, we said your bullshit would be the start of the end of it all. Everyone got into grunge then all of a sudden it was cool to listen to M&M. Fuck that.

You know it's funny I was living here in Seattle around 86-89 doing gigs with many of the bands known as grunge ... no one called it that. I was friends with many of these people. They just wanted to be heavy & slow it down. I then spent a few years around Michigan, Chicago & Tampa .... and returned to Seattle around 94. At that time the local music scene had got huge. The Rocket magazine when I left in 89 listed about 150 bands local that played rock & had just about everyone. When I returned in 94 it had listed 6000 bands & figured it had less than half listed.
By this time around here the term "grunge" was kind of a joke .... it was just for "posers". You would see ads for Kmart selling "grunge style cloths". Even the people that helped create it often hated it. Larry Brewer a good friend of mine in the late 80's had recorded a lot of these bands & I was there most nights hanging out in the studio ... or shopping bands at clubs with him. I was the one that really pushed for more bass in the mix & all we really wanted was it to sound more like the MSG & the Scorpions.... the Europe stuff from earlier in particular the German stuff. We felt that music had become too fake ... lost it's soul. Guys dressing up like women .... music with little or no feeling. But by this time 94 it had become product & the local scene was no longer the same. I did spend a fair amount of time in Newark & New York in the late 70's & early 80's & remember that scene.

Luckily, the Hollywood pop-rock thing never took-hold in Florida. We went from a southern rock scene straight into bands like Savatage, Testament, Morbid Angel, Obituary...etc. Hairspray and lipstick would have grounds for a serious southern-fried ass-beating!

We didn't refer to fans as 'poseurs'. Bands like Ratt, Poison, Motley Crue, Faster Pussy Cat, Dokken, Guns and Roses..etc. were deemed 'poseurs'. Basically, most of what was coming out of Hollywood, CA at that time. Excuse me, but did I hear Vince Neil say; "...metal started on the Sunset Strip"?

I have family & have lived in Tampa & Orlando .... The Metal scene down there was pretty good. Orlando was one of the best places in the world to pick up women ... when Church Street was happening. Lots of drunk people only in town for less than a week. The Disney music being played in public parks always made me laugh....

danyeo ....Do not take my commits the wrong way. I did not like much of the "grunge" stuff. By the time it was pop I hated a lot of it myself.

I just remember in the 90's the clear channel radio station out of NYC played grunge 24/7. Then they started mixing in NIN, then M&M, an it seemed like next thing you knew people that used to be into rock were wearing baggy fucking pants and talking like a ghetto rat. And at one point a bunch of new bands all sounded gay at the same time like Breakfast At Tiffany's or some shit.

I like NIN .... M&M was about awful. People from all the races acting like they grew up black was just weird. If they had always been that way it would be one thing.... but it being a fashion was just strange & wrong. 25% of the population here is Asian .... them acting gangster was about funny.

 

[petejt]

Every genre had its hay day. Take the Chicago Blues scene. Still known for it but it ain't the same.

Good call.

 

[petejt]

This thread made me re-watch this.
The first 15 minutes or so are focused on the Strip.
It's literally unrecognizable from this time!

What is the song from 10:03-10:23, and 11:03-11:23?

 

[GuitarGod87]

Ive never been so i couldn't tell you! Looks like fun but with the FL metal scene dead, i'm sure the LA glam scene is dead too.

 

[petejt]

Does anyone know what the songs are from 10:03-10:23, and 11:03-11:23?

 

[petejt]

Could someone please answer my question?

 

[mentoneman]

If you want to re-live some of the over-the-top rock shows of the 80's, run, don't walk, to the next Steel Panther show. Not only are these guys monster musicians playing great original tunes, but they are funny as hell. Well worth the trip to wherever they are playing at a given time. I believe the play the HOB on Sunset weekly (Monday nights) and HOB Las Vegas weekly (Saturday nights). Also do around the country and world touring. Rude and crude, but just what the doctor ordered.

phil x and steel panther are playing tonight at the house of blues on the sunset strip
my son is going to the show with his uncle. not so thrilled about subjecting my kid to the crude humor, but it will be sort of a glimpse into history, and on the strip for nostalgic value.
i took him to the baked potato to see landau saturday night, and i told him that it was pretty special to be able to see him in his stomping grounds, and that thousands of fans around the world would love to be in his shoes, so it's kinda similar.


the strip, and the scene in southern cali in general in the 80s was a piece of music history. zachman and i used to go see shows all the time--dokken, holdsworth, racer x, yngwie; waters club in san pedro (where billy sheehan and vai were in the audience getting blown away too), country club in reseda, roxy, whiskey, jezebels in fullerton, pomona valley auditorium....

saw satch on surfing with the alien tour at the roxy, where he broke a string on his floyd ibby, stopped, and said:
"ok, i broke a string, and either you can wait while i change a guitar and play the song in tune, or i'll keep playing with this thing and it will sound like crap."
so i yelled "change the guitar!", so he did, than asked, "so where should I pick it up from?" and i yelled SOLO!
so he thought for a sec, looked like he liked that idea, and wailed

i think blow started to really corrupt the scene though, and the glam thing became more about fruity fashion and lip gloss than musical talent, which is why grunge/nirvana had to happen, but boy did they suck the party fun, shred guitar solos, and hot chicks out of the equation!

 

[Enjolras56]

@petejt- my guess is that it's filler music created to sound consistent with the era?

 

[petejt]

@petejt- my guess is that it's filler music created to sound consistent with the era?

Maybe?

What I do know is that I heard those very clips in a parody of Gladiators (which had the whole 80s arena rock vibe), that was made back in 1995/1996.

Here's a clip of that parody. You can hear the segments I referenced in the background; the 10:03-10:23 from 1:44 onwards, and the 11:03-11:23 from 4:19-5:18.