Soldano built SLO-100 Effects Level Loop is on the way.

[cardinal]

Folks might be disappointed if it's just a change in the level. As others have said, the location also is unusual. I thought the common fix was to just leave to stock loop there (so no tone change) but put a Metro loop in and just use that one.

 

[Mesa\Kramer]

That is great news

Been fighting that loop for 4 years and recently gave up

How ever he did the loop in the HR25 is how the SLO mod loop needs to be

Can't wait to hear about the cost etc. and I'll drive it right over to him

 

[Luca79]

At slocloneforums.com ppl solved the problem 10 years ago

 

[Mr. Willy]

I've also asked him since it was MY IDEA, that I get an exclusive on it for a while.
LB
BCM

You seem like a very nice dude, but this statement really rubs me the wrong way. Guys on this forum have been talking about modding the SLO loop for years. I actually got an email response last week from Mike in which I asked him if he would mod the SLO loop to HR25 specs. Here's his response:


"It would be a pretty involved mod, but it is doable. I’d have to add a little auxiliary circuit board in addition to rewiring all of the loop circuitry. I haven’t done this mod before, so I don’t know exactly how long it will take, but I’m guessing that it will probably cost you around $300 to $400, plus shipping.



Best Regards,




Mike"

I started a thread about this a couple of days ago but had it nuked because I didn't want deciminate any information publicly that maybe Mike didn't want out there. Maybe I'm misunderstanding what you mean by having the "exclusive" on it.

 

[Mr. Willy]

I've also asked him since it was MY IDEA, that I get an exclusive on it for a while.
LB
BCM

You seem like a very nice dude, but this statement really rubs me the wrong way. I could be misreading what you mean. Guys on this forum have been talking about modding the SLO loop for years. I actually got an email response last week from Mike in which I asked him if he would mod the SLO loop to HR25 specs. Here's his response:


"It would be a pretty involved mod, but it is doable. I’d have to add a little auxiliary circuit board in addition to rewiring all of the loop circuitry. I haven’t done this mod before, so I don’t know exactly how long it will take, but I’m guessing that it will probably cost you around $300 to $400, plus shipping.



Best Regards,




Mike"

I started a thread about this a couple of days ago but had it nuked because I didn't want deciminate any information publicly that maybe Mike didn't want out there. Maybe I'm misunderstanding what you mean by having the "exclusive" on it. If you mean that the only place people get new SLOs with this mod is through you, then I guess I can understand that. But Mike will mod used SLOs to HR25 specs per his response above.

 

[LP Freak]

I've also asked him since it was MY IDEA, that I get an exclusive on it for a while.
LB
BCM

You seem like a very nice dude, but this statement really rubs me the wrong way. I could be misreading what you mean. Guys on this forum have been talking about modding the SLO loop for years. I actually got an email response last week from Mike in which I asked him if he would mod the SLO loop to HR25 specs. Here's his response:


"It would be a pretty involved mod, but it is doable. I’d have to add a little auxiliary circuit board in addition to rewiring all of the loop circuitry. I haven’t done this mod before, so I don’t know exactly how long it will take, but I’m guessing that it will probably cost you around $300 to $400, plus shipping.



Best Regards,




Mike"

I started a thread about this a couple of days ago but had it nuked because I didn't want deciminate any information publicly that maybe Mike didn't want out there. Maybe I'm misunderstanding what you mean by having the "exclusive" on it. If you mean that the only place people get new SLOs with this mod is through you, then I guess I can understand that. But Mike will mod used SLOs to HR25 specs per his response above.

I chuckled at the "MY IDEA" quote too but whatever.

 

[FourT6and2]

Yeah lol... "my idea."

People have been asking Mike to fix the loop for 30 years. His response has always basically been no.

 

[Bluplirst]

Yeah lol... "my idea."

People have been asking Mike to fix the loop for 30 years. His response has always basically been no.

Lol, yeah mustache has chimed in on all the slo loop threads all over the last few years saying the loop works great for him though he doesn't really use it.

 

[psychodave]

Yeah lol... "my idea."

People have been asking Mike to fix the loop for 30 years. His response has always basically been no.

Lol, yeah mustache has chimed in on all the slo loop threads all over the last few years saying the loop works great for him though he doesn't really use it.

So they are liars.

 

[Beam Tetrode]

Classic SLO topology is: Preamps > FX Loop > Tone Stack > Master Volumes > Power Amp.

The +4dB level is easy to work around. The real design flaw is having the FX Loop situated before the Master Volumes. Here's why: The Overdrive preamp has way more gain than the Normal preamp. To compensate, most players set the Normal Master higher than the Overdrive Master. If you have long reverb/delay trails going and switch from Overdrive to Normal, you get a noticeable jump in volume of the trails.

The Suhr and CAE mods do a good job, as they move the FX Loop after the Masters. Mike Soldano should have fixed the loop (and other issues) decades ago.

 

[Mr. Willy]

Yeah lol... "my idea."

People have been asking Mike to fix the loop for 30 years. His response has always basically been no.

Lol, yeah mustache has chimed in on all the slo loop threads all over the last few years saying the loop works great for him though he doesn't really use it.

So they are liars.

That's a stretch. You've been very vocal about not liking SLOs. But you don't have to disparage Mike Soldano that way. He is free to change his mind, which is what looks like happened.

 

[lespaul6]

Lol, yeah mustache has chimed in on all the slo loop threads all over the last few years saying the loop works great for him though he doesn't really use it.[/quote]


LOL... tan pants

 

[SLOgriff]

JLB is a great guy and is VERY passionate about Soldano and quality gear. The Soldano 44 was his idea, Mike thought it was a great idea as well, and they built it. It used to be an exclusive amp that you could only get thru Blues City Music.

I'm sure he meant it was "My Idea" to start offering the SLO with the revised Loop circuit as a normal production option. NOT it was my idea for in updated loop....I know Lynn, and we've talked about players' requests and the constant complaining about the SLO's Loop (on various forums). This is the just the natural progression to try and give folks the OPTION of two different SLO's (outside of the normal options already offered). Everyone knows that Mike has always wanted to keep the SLO as it was originally designed.....seems Lynn and Mike are friends and he's trying to help facilitate people's requests and make it a production OPTION like the Depth.

 

[JLB BCM]

VERY cool Mr. Lynne Burke!!! Thank you for the information!!

Fabulous pic, thanks so much.

 

[JLB BCM]

Good move. The loop in the SLO is the one thing that needs an overhaul. Put it AFTER the tone stack. If it's after the master, that probably also means the master volume will be the loop send control. Not the best situation either. As long as you're requesting things, I'd strongly suggest pressing Mike to include separate send/return controls. Or at the very least, a dedicated send.

Thanks for the comments. I just asked Mike if he would do an effects level loop on the SLO versus the +4db loop. I know the HR 25 is after the Master, he may just put it after tone stack as you have suggested. We didn't get into the schematic that deep, he just said, OK, I'm in and I'll get on it. I'll hit you back when I get more details. I doubt it will be as complex as a Diezel loop though which is way cool, but probably won't happen on the SLO. That I'm fairly certain. Thanks.

LB
BCM

 

[JLB BCM]

That is great news

Been fighting that loop for 4 years and recently gave up

How ever he did the loop in the HR25 is how the SLO mod loop needs to be

Can't wait to hear about the cost etc. and I'll drive it right over to him

Yes, everyone seems to dig that loop in the HR25. Will this loop be post master, post tone stack, not really sure, haven't seen schematic as he is working on it, but I will find out soon. Thanks buddy.

LB
BCM

 

[JLB BCM]

At slocloneforums.com ppl solved the problem 10 years ago

Thanks for the info, but Mike built the +4db loop as a dedicated circuit just for the SLO. He's more than qualified to do whatever to his amps, but he didn't see fit at the time. Times change and he's willing to address the loop issue which I'm quite certain most if not all will be happy with it. Thanks.... I hope to find out more about it when I get back from Asia next week.

LB
BCM

 

[JLB BCM]

I've also asked him since it was MY IDEA, that I get an exclusive on it for a while.
LB
BCM

You seem like a very nice dude, but this statement really rubs me the wrong way. I could be misreading what you mean. Guys on this forum have been talking about modding the SLO loop for years. I actually got an email response last week from Mike in which I asked him if he would mod the SLO loop to HR25 specs. Here's his response:


"It would be a pretty involved mod, but it is doable. I’d have to add a little auxiliary circuit board in addition to rewiring all of the loop circuitry. I haven’t done this mod before, so I don’t know exactly how long it will take, but I’m guessing that it will probably cost you around $300 to $400, plus shipping.



Best Regards,




Mike"

I started a thread about this a couple of days ago but had it nuked because I didn't want deciminate any information publicly that maybe Mike didn't want out there. Maybe I'm misunderstanding what you mean by having the "exclusive" on it. If you mean that the only place people get new SLOs with this mod is through you, then I guess I can understand that. But Mike will mod used SLOs to HR25 specs per his response above.

I chuckled at the "MY IDEA" quote too but whatever.

Ok, nice dude? Not really sure what that has to do with anything, but thanks I suppose.

Yes, you are correct, I asked Mike if I could get a short exclusive on it for NEW SLO's. I mean I flew there, spent money to hang out with my bud, engaged him about this issue, and he's working on it now. Same way when I launched the BCM 44 amp. I had an exclusive on that for a long time and still do with some versions. Thanks my friend.

LB
BCM

 

[JLB BCM]

Yeah lol... "my idea."

People have been asking Mike to fix the loop for 30 years. His response has always basically been no.

Yes, it was my idea for Mike to finally consider doing this at the present. I've asked about it for years in the past as well. Laugh all you want, but I do have a vested interest with him and have taken care of many wonderful Soldano customers for years. Enjoyed it immensely. I thought the time was right for an option. I TOTALLY prefer the +4db loop or NO loop at all, but customers have asked for an option. That's it. I'm trying to help them out.

Everyone has an idea on however XYZ amp or guitar builder should change their products, but to get them to do it without any research into costs etc. isn't feasible. I asked him to do that, research it, find out the costs, and let's see how we can put it together.


LB
BCM

 

[Mr. Willy]

I've also asked him since it was MY IDEA, that I get an exclusive on it for a while.
LB
BCM

You seem like a very nice dude, but this statement really rubs me the wrong way. I could be misreading what you mean. Guys on this forum have been talking about modding the SLO loop for years. I actually got an email response last week from Mike in which I asked him if he would mod the SLO loop to HR25 specs. Here's his response:


"It would be a pretty involved mod, but it is doable. I’d have to add a little auxiliary circuit board in addition to rewiring all of the loop circuitry. I haven’t done this mod before, so I don’t know exactly how long it will take, but I’m guessing that it will probably cost you around $300 to $400, plus shipping.



Best Regards,




Mike"

I started a thread about this a couple of days ago but had it nuked because I didn't want deciminate any information publicly that maybe Mike didn't want out there. Maybe I'm misunderstanding what you mean by having the "exclusive" on it. If you mean that the only place people get new SLOs with this mod is through you, then I guess I can understand that. But Mike will mod used SLOs to HR25 specs per his response above.

I chuckled at the "MY IDEA" quote too but whatever.

Ok, nice dude? Not really sure what that has to do with anything, but thanks I suppose.

Yes, you are correct, I asked Mike if I could get a short exclusive on it for NEW SLO's. I mean I flew there, spent money to hang out with my bud, engaged him about this issue, and he's working on it now. Same way when I launched the BCM 44 amp. I had an exclusive on that for a long time and still do with some versions. Thanks my friend.

LB
BCM

What it has to do with it is that the way you worded it came off as taking credit for something that MANY people have been discussing for years, and several people have already modded the loop on their own or had others to do it. It came across as like you were the first guy to think of it.

I've seen your demos online. I judge by them that you seem like a nice guy, so that's why I said I'm sure you didn't mean that comment the way it was coming across. I was giving you the benefit of the doubt.

Congratulations on being the first guy after years and years of people asking him to do the mod to change Mike's mind. New SLO owners owe you a debt of gratitude.