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Is apparently great. The prices on ebay are damn close to what the dealers are wanting. I owned one and think they are sweet but cant understand the used prices
blackba":2wibqjoq said:About the only thing I have heard bad about the slo is the loop. It's a legendary amp like a 60s vox ac30 or Mesa mark Iic+.
An slo is on the wish list, but doubt I will get one anytime soon. Kids are sucking up all my spare gear cash these days....
reverymike":3iiz7hea said:blackba":3iiz7hea said:About the only thing I have heard bad about the slo is the loop. It's a legendary amp like a 60s vox ac30 or Mesa mark Iic+.
An slo is on the wish list, but doubt I will get one anytime soon. Kids are sucking up all my spare gear cash these days....
Loop is totally fine if you're using decent rack stuff. SDE3000, Lexicon, etc are great in the loop. Pedals, not so much.
mentoneman":1fe9vizs said:it's one legendary amp i never quite loved. the VH4 is another--
imo the SLO does one sound really well, and can be massive for a crunch or lead sound with the proper effects, but needs to be turned up really loud for the sweet spot, too aggressive for classic rock, not hot enough for modern metal....
reverymike":2f7l527y said:blackba":2f7l527y said:About the only thing I have heard bad about the slo is the loop. It's a legendary amp like a 60s vox ac30 or Mesa mark Iic+.
An slo is on the wish list, but doubt I will get one anytime soon. Kids are sucking up all my spare gear cash these days....
Loop is totally fine if you're using decent rack stuff. SDE3000, Lexicon, etc are great in the loop. Pedals, not so much.
Mesa\Kramer":1fj4ut85 said:reverymike":1fj4ut85 said:blackba":1fj4ut85 said:About the only thing I have heard bad about the slo is the loop. It's a legendary amp like a 60s vox ac30 or Mesa mark Iic+.
An slo is on the wish list, but doubt I will get one anytime soon. Kids are sucking up all my spare gear cash these days....
Loop is totally fine if you're using decent rack stuff. SDE3000, Lexicon, etc are great in the loop. Pedals, not so much.
The Loop "is not" totally fine.
The problem with the loop isn't so much the Line Level issue, the problem is were the loop is located in the circut, as it is placed before the the tone stack.
When using the Overdrive channel, time based effects are introduced to enough gain due to where the loop is located, that your effects get buried while playing. (You can not hear any delay slapback "while you are playing" for example, only can hear them if you stop suddenly).
Similar to running a delay pedal in front of an overdriven amp, just not quite as bad.
Mesa\Kramer":1sunsmw3 said:reverymike":1sunsmw3 said:blackba":1sunsmw3 said:About the only thing I have heard bad about the slo is the loop. It's a legendary amp like a 60s vox ac30 or Mesa mark Iic+.
An slo is on the wish list, but doubt I will get one anytime soon. Kids are sucking up all my spare gear cash these days....
Loop is totally fine if you're using decent rack stuff. SDE3000, Lexicon, etc are great in the loop. Pedals, not so much.
The Loop "is not" totally fine.
The problem with the loop isn't so much the Line Level issue, the problem is were the loop is located in the circut, as it is placed before the the tone stack.
When using the Overdrive channel, time based effects are introduced to enough gain due to where the loop is located, that your effects get buried while playing. (You can not hear any delay slapback "while you are playing" for example, only can hear them if you stop suddenly).
Similar to running a delay pedal in front of an overdriven amp, just not quite as bad.
I wonder if in Mike's mind the SLO tone will not be the same if he does anything different. He's been successful with his flagship. I have to think he has experimented with this known complaint and found a tonal change that worried him possibly. There has to be a reason. Maybe someone should ask him.steve_k":2wokik5e said:Mesa\Kramer":2wokik5e said:reverymike":2wokik5e said:blackba":2wokik5e said:About the only thing I have heard bad about the slo is the loop. It's a legendary amp like a 60s vox ac30 or Mesa mark Iic+.
An slo is on the wish list, but doubt I will get one anytime soon. Kids are sucking up all my spare gear cash these days....
Loop is totally fine if you're using decent rack stuff. SDE3000, Lexicon, etc are great in the loop. Pedals, not so much.
The Loop "is not" totally fine.
The problem with the loop isn't so much the Line Level issue, the problem is were the loop is located in the circut, as it is placed before the the tone stack.
When using the Overdrive channel, time based effects are introduced to enough gain due to where the loop is located, that your effects get buried while playing. (You can not hear any delay slapback "while you are playing" for example, only can hear them if you stop suddenly).
Similar to running a delay pedal in front of an overdriven amp, just not quite as bad.
Wonder why Mike never saw the need to redesign the loop circuitry, knowing that there are limitations with it? I do know back when these amps hit the market, he and the musicians that took to the stage with them were using multiple amps and W/D rigs, so maybe he was considering more of the industry desire to drive multi-FX with the preamp and to another SLO power section or power amp and making it -14dB to keep from clipping the unit.
glip22":39zf5jwy said:I wonder if in Mike's mind the SLO tone will not be the same if he does anything different. He's been successful with his flagship. I have to think he has experimented with this known complaint and found a tonal change that worried him possibly. There has to be a reason. Maybe someone should ask him.steve_k":39zf5jwy said:Mesa\Kramer":39zf5jwy said:reverymike":39zf5jwy said:blackba":39zf5jwy said:About the only thing I have heard bad about the slo is the loop. It's a legendary amp like a 60s vox ac30 or Mesa mark Iic+.
An slo is on the wish list, but doubt I will get one anytime soon. Kids are sucking up all my spare gear cash these days....
Loop is totally fine if you're using decent rack stuff. SDE3000, Lexicon, etc are great in the loop. Pedals, not so much.
The Loop "is not" totally fine.
The problem with the loop isn't so much the Line Level issue, the problem is were the loop is located in the circut, as it is placed before the the tone stack.
When using the Overdrive channel, time based effects are introduced to enough gain due to where the loop is located, that your effects get buried while playing. (You can not hear any delay slapback "while you are playing" for example, only can hear them if you stop suddenly).
Similar to running a delay pedal in front of an overdriven amp, just not quite as bad.
Wonder why Mike never saw the need to redesign the loop circuitry, knowing that there are limitations with it? I do know back when these amps hit the market, he and the musicians that took to the stage with them were using multiple amps and W/D rigs, so maybe he was considering more of the industry desire to drive multi-FX with the preamp and to another SLO power section or power amp and making it -14dB to keep from clipping the unit.
Bottom line is that an effects loop was designed for one thing and that ISN'T Boss, Maxon, TC, Hard Wire, etc., -20 db effects level stomp pedals. It was designed to POWER unpowered studio grade rack units. The SLAVE OUT was designed to handle those studio grade units that ARE powered. No where in the equation did pedals ever come to fruition.