Strong hints that Van Halen 1 68 lead was just a slave amp and not the main amp.

JDs Couch said:
I heard it was a IIC++. Mike Bendinelli drove his Delorean really fast from 1984 to 1978 to get it to Eddie.
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Ah, the ol' obligatory post on the main forum so you can claim you don't just post in OT.

A hint, post about something that at least ambiguously makes people think you may actually know something about guitars or music.

Dumbass.
 
I’ve noted on my underbiased Rivera M60 in half power mode (220v B+) that the Fender tonestack M channel has the hard bass that Ed had, and the SL Marshall tonestack channel doesn’t.

Ed’s bottom end has that Fender style bass. You have to nearly roll it off to keep it from being muddy but that’s where it lives. He even used light bottom strings to clean this up.

My Zinky’s get that tone too and the gain channel is a modified ‘59 Fender Bassman TMB circuit that makes a mid scooped smile EQ when dimed. Replace the 25k midrange pot with a 50k like Ed as evidenced in Pete and Dave’s EVH tone vid and VOILÀ le mids come forth while maintaining that hard, percussive bottom end.

I’m on team Fender tonestack.
 
psychodave said:
I played Chris Merren’s 67 Plexi through a pinstripe 4x12 loaded with 20 watt Celestions like 25 years ago. The amp was stock and had a shit ton of gain and felt great to play. So I think it comes down to the sum of all the parts and being lucky to have a great sounding amp.

Even Kerry King talks about how one of his Marshall’s has a sound like no other. It’s the sum of all the parts and luck of the draw.
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All tube amps sound different, even of the same year and model. Especially the old ones where the components values have drifted.

Oh, and Kerry King's favorite Marshall, he calls it "the beast". It's the amp he based his signature jcm-800 off of.
 
Lightning said:
Really explain
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He took a trip to Randall's shop where they were working on the Mark IIa and Randall sold him one of the prototypes they were working on and the rest is history... Eddie disguised it as a Marshall of course and even hid it out of site, there are no pics of it in existance. Seriously.
 
Sorry can’t believe that at all,the interviews from 78 to present all the people that were involved in the Van Halen camp something would have slipped out
 
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Tone chased EVH forever. I get it. Totally get it. My 69 Plexi gets me very close. Close enough for me. But it is also so much more and just getting my sound that I like is now much more interesting to me.

Plus, I will never have Ed’s hands. That is 1/2 the sound, at least. I think guys like @Stradazone are as close as it’s going to get.

Other than that, enter the Tonex.
 
Racerxrated said:
A lot of the ‘sizzle’ of VH1 is easily attributed to the JBL D120s. For the rest of the VH albums, all Greenbacks. Or so I’ve read.
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Well one thing for sure, that ge-10 in line can kick that gain up and the blooming bass could be a characteristic of the choplex pre in line as well so I do think it is possible for that amp to be stock and hit with variac, eq pedal and echoplex pre to kick it in the ass.
 
Racerxrated said:
A lot of the ‘sizzle’ of VH1 is easily attributed to the JBL D120s. For the rest of the VH albums, all Greenbacks. Or so I’ve read.
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It's so crazy how nobody wants to talk about this or admit it. Ever since I bought my own pair and messed around with them with other speaker combos, I realized this is a big piece of the puzzle for that sound and the EVH tone gatekeepers keep it hush so everyone else can continue the asinine goose chase.

1. Hands
2. PAF humbucker
3. Plexi (variac'd for more of that authentic sag)
4. D120/GB combo

That is fucking it. Go ahead and waste your life and dissect which serial number his Shaffer Vega wireless system was and whether he used lithium or alkaline batteries.
 
Floyd Eye said:
Ah, the ol' obligatory post on the main forum so you can claim you don't just post in OT.

A hint, post about something that at least ambiguously makes people think you may actually know something about guitars or music.

Dumbass.
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I know how to build amps and mod them so apparently i don' know shit about guitars or music ?

I even build my guitars xd. I would build my humbuckers if i wasn't short on cash...
 
Amp_chaser said:
then in recent videos even deraps says he thinks they weren't used...
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Even Deraps?? Who, that kid who plays EVH well? So, somehow he know what was used back in 1977?? Just because he can play EVH doesn't mean jack when it comes to 1977 and the recording of VHI. We can see the 412 in the studio, and we can see the aluminum dust caps of the JBL D120s IN the cab, in the studio, during the sessions.
It's really not even a question, since we see the proof in the pics.
Those speakers have a TON of sizzle in the high end.
Easily explains the sizzle on the recording. Funny, none of the following albums had even remotely the same amount of sizzle as VH1. And Ed himself said he used just Greenbacks on the rest of the records.

This isn't hard.
 
Amp_chaser said:
there is no way that the amp used in van halen 0 (the record with gene simmons) is the 68 super lead and that's probably this amp that was played there that was used with the 68 lead as a slave. That's probably this amp that is responsible for the chewiness and blooming of the tone in van halen 1 :
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The reason why the Gene Simmons demos sounded different was because Gene flew the band out and Ed used the amps that were in Gene's studio, most likely Ace's and Paul's amps.
 
Amp_chaser said:
I know how to build amps and mod them so apparently i don' know shit about guitars or music ?

I even build my guitars xd. I would build my humbuckers if i wasn't short on cash...
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Who are you ? Pretty sure I was not referring to you. Are 99.9% of your posts here in the OT section ?
 
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