Strong hints that Van Halen 1 68 lead was just a slave amp and not the main amp.

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DrewJD82 said:
Ah.....so, an amp Steve neither possessed nor paid for and is not one of the 3 Jose heads he used in DLR and still owns that everyone would know as "Steve Vai's Jose amps"

Maybe "Sykes bought a Jose that was made for Vai" would be a more accurate telling of the tale?
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What i know is that vai recieved a mod which was very close to eddie’s and that caused according to some rumors a break into ed and josé’s friendship. It was dlr who introduced vai to josé.

However i stongly believe the mod wasn’t the exact same thing. That on the paper it’s similar but way different in the way it’s wired.

still way too much gain. The way i implemented it makes it muddier. but the eq of the tone seems getting close.

however i have 4-5 main mods to try. after i will build a 68 lead to ed's specs with the same transformers.



even if it's not quite it yet, i learnt so much by modding those plexis that i even found out new mods and varieties of how a plexi can sound.

I have many ideas of mods that could be related thatpeople never thought of or that i never seen done to any amp. On the metro forums they did a lot of good work but unfortunately for them there is a josé mod that was never mentionned and that would have sparkled a lot of debate. A lot of experiments could be done with this mod. People tend to think plexis are obsolete because everything has been done to it. But that's not true at all if you are very creative there are infinite ways to mod a plexi without even changing a component just by adding or injectif things at different stages. when i look at many famous modders they mostly do josé variants but they don't think further and think it's sad because it's like for them josé only did those 3-4 mods. Why don't people try things on their josés ? I don't think josé invented every mod for eddy he could just have taken circuits from amps or pedals he used to deal with and implemented them on a plexi. In fact the ceramic caps over plates were a current thing on vox amps and its nowadays mainly associated with josé or friedman amps and we know he worked for vox amps... that's not a coincidence.

When i look at those possibilities i tend to believe that marshall just slept on their fame. They could have done so much more...

if i ever get very close i'll ask a friend to play those vh riffs. i stopped playing 5-6 years ago i'm so rusty. The riffs i play are mostly muscle memory.
 
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DrewJD82 said:
It’d be pretty funny if dude came back in a month with an amp that actually sounded exactly like the VH1 tone, despite the lack of acknowledgement of all the shitty reference recordings.
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that's way better i found a trick with the josé master and the schaffer vega boost. which eddie used on vh2 and i think he used it on vh1 too...
 
psychodave said:
These last two clips aren't close at all. Maybe if they were mixed together, it would be closer.
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thx it's always good to get feedback. I'm looking for that sizzle right know. Those records were made with the josé master at 1-2. It adds sizzle it's weird how it reacts with some boost. However i don't know why when i use genome only it's not that fuzzy and when i use genome in the reaper fx it get instantly way more fizzier.

i keep wondering if rockstah was right but just didn't all the values he needed. If i remember correctly not sure : but apparently chris merren told him that eddie's amp was turned into a jcm 800 style circuit and was in reality a 2 holer. Which is weird because eddie got a plexi which was turned into a 1hole input in his home. I wonder how true this is.

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