Strymon Timeline MX is here.

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The new digital delay engines cannot be made to darken the first repeat, only subsequent repeats.

There is also no way to offset one side of the stereo delay by a few ms, unless you go into dual delay mode and program two entirely separate delays with repeats just a few ms apart and wide pan them. But that means adjusting anything in that patch will need button tapping and dialing knobs twice, once per side.

Also, minimum delay time is 60 ms for everything but the Lo Fi delay, and there's no phase reverse for repeats, which means you can't emulate realistic slapback OR the 2290 one-side phase-reverse thing.

No graphic or parametric EQ to tweak any of your delays either.


I honestly can't believe how much of a dud this pedal seems to be. They filled it to the brim with pre-programmed ambient toy gag algorithm horseshit but when it comes to meat and potatoes delay dialing, there's a lot missing.
 
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TheGreatGreen said:
The new digital delay engines cannot be made to darken the first repeat, only subsequent repeats.

There is also no way to offset one side of the stereo delay by a few ms, unless you go into dual delay mode and program two entirely separate delays with repeats just a few ms apart and wide pan them.

Also, minimum delay time is 60 ms for everything but the Lo Fi delay, and there's no phase reverse for repeats, which means you can't emulate realistic slapback OR the 2290 one-side phase-reverse thing.

No graphic or parametric EQ to tweak any of your delays either.


I honestly can't believe how much of a dud this pedal seems to be. They filled it to the brim with pre-programmed ambient toy gag algorithm horseshit but when it comes to meat and potatoes delay dialing, there's a lot missing.
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I was surprised at how much this is essentially just the normal TL with a bit more power, you can send delays into eachother, and a couple of their new delays that I could live without.
 
They seem to have lost all innovation after the Meris guys left. The last interesting delay they had was the Volante. They missed the boat using that format for a Dig. They spent more time in the demo showing off the reverb engine…. Who gives a shit about a reverb engine in this delay pedal, we’ve heard thousands of strymon reverb engines, were here for the next iteration of this delay! Anyways, they waited too long and this is boring. The original StateShirt demo guy was more interesting and weird, and that felt cool.

I’m probably in a nostalgia black hole so don’t mine me taking a piss here.
 
Sixstringflannel said:
They seem to have lost all innovation after the Meris guys left. The last interesting delay they had was the Volante. They missed the boat using that format for a Dig. They spent more time in the demo showing off the reverb engine…. Who gives a shit about a reverb engine in this delay pedal, we’ve heard thousands of strymon reverb engines, were here for the next iteration of this delay! Anyways, they waited too long and this is boring. The original StateShirt demo guy was more interesting and weird, and that felt cool.

I’m probably in a nostalgia black hole so don’t mine me taking a piss here.
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I also felt the demo could have been much more well done and was surprised and how fluttery it all felt from them - like they just winged it. I really expected more.
 
TheGreatGreen said:
The new digital delay engines cannot be made to darken the first repeat, only subsequent repeats.

There is also no way to offset one side of the stereo delay by a few ms, unless you go into dual delay mode and program two entirely separate delays with repeats just a few ms apart and wide pan them.

Also, minimum delay time is 60 ms for everything but the Lo Fi delay, and there's no phase reverse for repeats, which means you can't emulate realistic slapback OR the 2290 one-side phase-reverse thing.

No graphic or parametric EQ to tweak any of your delays either.


I honestly can't believe how much of a dud this pedal seems to be. They filled it to the brim with pre-programmed ambient toy gag algorithm horseshit but when it comes to meat and potatoes delay dialing, there's a lot missing.
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This is an amazing post.
 
So, the initial shortcomings of the delay pissed me off because I was hoping for a new genuine flagship and this isn't that, so I've been looking more into it, and I found something else that's pissed me off about it. It turns out the Timeline MX is not even a true fucking stereo delay pedal for the vast majority of the engines, at least not how you'd think it would be.

Yes the pedal is technically a stereo delay in that it does process left and right inputs and outputs discreetly, but it processes each delay in dual mono with no way to make the left and right channels sound different within a single engine, and neither side interacts with or processes repeats from the other side, and there are no controls you can access that only impact one side of the delay in a relative way to the other.

There are specific one-offs like the Multi Delay engine where you can pan specific repeats in different ways to get Ping Pong, but aside from that, the delays are dual-mono with one set of controls that change both sides identically.

This effectively means that if you input a mono guitar signal, you'll output a mono delay signal, unless you're specifically in the Multi-Delay engine.

Again, there is no one-side offset feature so you can't do the stereo widening thing like you can in literally every other stereo delay, and there is no left>right, right>left, figure-8 style feedback loops like the DIG has.
 
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People on TGP are falling all over themselves to post about how fast they stampeded to the PURCHASE button the second it was opened up, lol.
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I'm not surprised one bit dude. You're talking about a forum chock full of people who buy private stock PRS to solely hang in their offices/homes
 
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I wasn't that impressed seeing those demos....but I'm not impressed with the new Eventide H9 gen 2 either. I like Strymon sounds...I still rock the El Cap v1. Still love it. But I'm not being wowed for the amount of coin I'd have to shell out for a new delay.
 
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