Supreme Court rules against Death for Child Rapists..

[Marshall Freak]

Nope, merely pointing out that members of both political parties are prone to saying unbelievably stupid things, which is why it doesn't matter that Fagan is a Democrat and that is not an important part of the story... What is important is a lawyer and political representative made some horrific comments.

Steve

It does matter what political side he's on, because anyone that can vote in his area needs to know what he is so they can vote against him. On top of that, if you read the article it's pretty easy to see that the people in his party aren't going to hold his feet to the fire for saying such horrific shit.

"“I appreciate that he’s a defense attorney, and felt he had a point to make, but I think it was unnecessary,” said Jones, who supported an original version of the bill. “It was excessive.”

“I thought his comments were over the top and unnecessary"

Is that all they can come up with? The SOB should be tarred and feathered for shit like that but they're going to just let it slide... pathetic.

 

[defpearlpilot]

It does matter what political side he's on, because anyone that can vote in his area needs to know what he is so they can vote against him. On top of that, if you read the article it's pretty easy to see that the people in his party aren't going to hold his feet to the fire for saying such horrific shit.

What!?!?! Last time I checked, the only thing I need to know about in order not to vote for someone is their name(if I disagree with their stance).

BTW, that representative was a douche!

 

[Anonymous]

Nope, merely pointing out that members of both political parties are prone to saying unbelievably stupid things, which is why it doesn't matter that Fagan is a Democrat and that is not an important part of the story... What is important is a lawyer and political representative made some horrific comments.

Steve

It does matter what political side he's on, because anyone that can vote in his area needs to know what he is so they can vote against him. On top of that, if you read the article it's pretty easy to see that the people in his party aren't going to hold his feet to the fire for saying such horrific shit.

"“I appreciate that he’s a defense attorney, and felt he had a point to make, but I think it was unnecessary,” said Jones, who supported an original version of the bill. “It was excessive.”

“I thought his comments were over the top and unnecessary"

Is that all they can come up with? The SOB should be tarred and feathered for shit like that but they're going to just let it slide... pathetic.

It was "piece of shit Democrat" I had issue with and once again it is not relevant. Regardless of what party he is a part of, people can vote against him...

Also, I understand the point he was making, which was that children who are abused will be tortured by defense attorneys. He just made his point in a brutal, horrific way that was unnecessary to get his point across. However, calling for his tar and feathering is a bit much...

Steve

 

[Marshall Freak]

Nope, merely pointing out that members of both political parties are prone to saying unbelievably stupid things, which is why it doesn't matter that Fagan is a Democrat and that is not an important part of the story... What is important is a lawyer and political representative made some horrific comments.

Steve

It does matter what political side he's on, because anyone that can vote in his area needs to know what he is so they can vote against him. On top of that, if you read the article it's pretty easy to see that the people in his party aren't going to hold his feet to the fire for saying such horrific shit.

"“I appreciate that he’s a defense attorney, and felt he had a point to make, but I think it was unnecessary,” said Jones, who supported an original version of the bill. “It was excessive.”

“I thought his comments were over the top and unnecessary"

Is that all they can come up with? The SOB should be tarred and feathered for shit like that but they're going to just let it slide... pathetic.

It was "piece of shit Democrat" I had issue with and once again it is not relevant. Regardless of what party he is a part of, people can vote against him...

Also, I understand the point he was making, which was that children who are abused will be tortured by defense attorneys. He just made his point in a brutal, horrific way that was unnecessary to get his point across. However, calling for his tar and feathering is a bit much...

Steve

That's what he is, a POS Democrat. He's also a POS white guy, and a POS in general. On top of that, it appears the Democratic party in his state don't seem to have a problem with what he said, so they're worthless POS democrats too. On top of that, if the few republicans in the congress in that state don't make a public outcry, they're POS Republicans.

There's nothing in that law that will make a defense attorney have to work harder, or anything of that sort. It's just stiffer penalties for convicted offenders. He was saying that if he defends an offender that is what he was going to do if that law got passed, and it's reprehensible, disgusting, and he should at least be disbarred on ethical grounds, after being impeached from his position. Any Lawyer AND lawmaker that will make the statement that they're going to go after a child victim like that is taking up too much oxygen.

Calling for a lawmaker that will rant like that to be tarred and feathered is a bit much, but because Dave said the words POS Democrat it's surprising that he had enough brains to live to maturity? That's a bit much.

 

[ratter]

Calling for a lawmaker that will rant like that to be tarred and feathered is a bit much, but because Dave said the words POS Democrat it's surprising that he had enough brains to live to maturity? That's a bit much.

Whoa now. I said that about Fagan, not about Dave.

 

[Marshall Freak]

Calling for a lawmaker that will rant like that to be tarred and feathered is a bit much, but because Dave said the words POS Democrat it's surprising that he had enough brains to live to maturity? That's a bit much.

Whoa now. I said that about Fagan, not about Dave.

I know that's what you were talking about, He asked if you were referring to Dave, or the Congressman, implying that it could mean either one of them which I think is a bit much.

I didn't intend to mean that you were saying that about Dave.

 

[Anonymous]

That's what he is, a POS Democrat. He's also a POS white guy, and a POS in general.

Awesome - you made my point for me. Thanks!

but because Dave said the words POS Democrat it's surprising that he had enough brains to live to maturity? That's a bit much.

Totally agree. However, I never said that and neither did anyone else, I merely asked the person who posted the statement to clarify who he was referring to as a symbolic approach to expressing my displeasure with Dave's words and to call into question the relevance of the statement...

Steve

 

[Anonymous]

Calling for a lawmaker that will rant like that to be tarred and feathered is a bit much, but because Dave said the words POS Democrat it's surprising that he had enough brains to live to maturity? That's a bit much.

Whoa now. I said that about Fagan, not about Dave.

Totally and in FACT, no one said it about Dave...

Stve

 

[Anonymous]

He was saying that if he defends an offender that is what he was going to do if that law got passed, and it's reprehensible, disgusting, and he should at least be disbarred on ethical grounds, after being impeached from his position.

On what grounds would he be disbarred if the law passed and he vigorously defended his client in the manner he suggested? He'd just be doing his job and living up to his oath...

As far as I'm concerned it was the WAY he voiced what he (and all other lawyers) would do to victims when faced with a capital offense if the law passed. It was beyond wrong, but I don't see how he could be removed from whatever office he holds for that...

Steve

 

[Marshall Freak]

That's what he is, a POS Democrat. He's also a POS white guy, and a POS in general.

Awesome - you made my point for me. Thanks!

but because Dave said the words POS Democrat it's surprising that he had enough brains to live to maturity? That's a bit much.

Totally agree. However, I never said that and neither did anyone else, I merely asked the person who posted the statement to clarify who he was referring to as a symbolic approach to expressing my displeasure with Dave's words and to call into question the relevance of the statement...

Steve

I'll be looking for you doing the same same next time someone starts in on those "Facist Republicans".

 

[Anonymous]

That's what he is, a POS Democrat. He's also a POS white guy, and a POS in general.

Awesome - you made my point for me. Thanks!

but because Dave said the words POS Democrat it's surprising that he had enough brains to live to maturity? That's a bit much.

Totally agree. However, I never said that and neither did anyone else, I merely asked the person who posted the statement to clarify who he was referring to as a symbolic approach to expressing my displeasure with Dave's words and to call into question the relevance of the statement...

Steve

I'll be looking for you doing the same same next time someone starts in on those "Facist Republicans".

Hey... how do you know I'm not a Republican?

Steve

 

[Marshall Law]

liberalism is a mental disorder

 

[Marshall Freak]

Hey... how do you know I'm not a Republican?

Steve

I don't, I just said I'll look forward to you doing the same when someone makes a similar statement about a Republican.

 

[White_Van]

liberalism is a mental disorder

It's quotes like that that make me sad about the future of American politics.

 

[cloudnine]

As much as I hate to say it, I think the ruling was correct. I'm anti capital punishment anyway, but even moreso in these cases.

These people are sick. Not good people, not worthy of any sympathy by any means, but absolutely 100% sick in the head. Raping a child, to me, shows a complete lack of anything like sound thought, and the laws against executing someone who is not of sound mind are pretty clear (or not, if you live in Texas).

There's no precedence for such things, and frankly, it might just lead to more child murders. After all, if there's going to be death for rape, they may as well kill the child as well.

It also starts a nice fine line - where does a "child" start? Can someone who would get a few years in jail for raping a 18 year old suddenly get the chair for doing the same to a 17 year old? 15? 10? 8? Do they only get it if they totally destroy the child's body/organs?

 

[Plugmein]

Look at what this piece of shit Democrat says....

Regarding VICTIMS: "I'm gonna rip them apart," Fagan said of young victims during his testimony on the bill. "I'm going to make sure that the rest of their life is ruined, that when they’re 8 years old, they throw up; when they’re 12 years old, they won’t sleep; when they’re 19 years old, they’ll have nightmares and they’ll never have a relationship with anybody.”

Massachusetts deserves this guy!!!

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,371344,00.html

Wow! Did you see the complete story. No you didn't, because you didn't get a news story!
You viewed an out of context, snippet of a fox story. The Republican propaganda shit spreader network! The politician, and most importantly passionate defense attorney, is obligated to defend his client to the best of his ability. In the U.S. all suspects are innocent until proven guilty. The reason he was so adamant about defending his hypothetical defendant is due to the number of death penalty cases that were over turned due to new DNA testing. Some of you have not been on this earth long enough to remember the McMartin case. Why don't you google McMartin case to get more details, but they were falsely accused, and that alone was enough to destroy their business as well as their lives. In my state, their have been a few recent cases involving children falsely accusing adults of abuse, but later proven false. In Minnesota, we have a excellent judicial system, but in the south you have people being convicted with little to no evidence.
I am also a father, and would do anything to protect my son, but I have taught him that the only thing that keeps us from complete lawlessness is our constitution and bill of rights, we can't forsake all for our impulsive need for retribution.
I understand how passionate you all are about protecting the innocent, but you must remember the number of people who lives were destroyed because of false accusations and abuse of the judicial system by zealous prosecuting attorneys.
Mandatory life imprisonment seems to guaranty the safety of the public as well as the convict, in case of a false conviction.

 

[Plugmein]

liberalism is a mental disorder

This statement from a redneck dumb ass, who's wearing a hat to cover up the large hole in his head.

 

[jkdsteve]

liberalism is a mental disorder

Extremism in any form is bad

 

[jkdsteve]

liberalism is a mental disorder

It's quotes like that that make me sad about the future of American politics.

Yup...everything's gotta have a label or a category so you can take one side or t'other...have to be for or against..black and white..must have a soundbite

 

[theNoseBleedKid]

liberalism is a mental disorder

You rock.

Also, the SCOTUS was simply upholding a previous decision NOT to execute Child Sex offenders (providing they didn;t kill the children) as cited by the Coker vs Georgia case, which is 30ish years old.

I think they had the right to intervene and prevent the death penatly, especially since there is a precendent.

Also, studies are quite clear, Marshall Freak, that the death penalty is quite the opposite of a deterrent where extreme crime is involved. I doubt that will change your opinion, but telling people no matter how far they will go (beyond a certain point) they WILL be killed is hardly a deterrent. Especially with depraved people.