The flips side.."worst tones" of the 80's?

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danyeo":1ggb4pyf said:
Iron Maiden IMHO always had great tones up until they went with Gallien Krueger stuff on Somewhere In Time, then their tones went downhill, as well as the whole band IMHO. Peace Of Mind and Number were classics.

I've always thought that Maiden switched to GK on Seventh Son, not on SiT. Wasn't SiT all Marshall JCM800, 2205 perhaps?
 
I remember it as the GKs turning up on Somewhere in time, but I might be wrong. The MIDI-guitar stuff was on SiT too, I believe.
 
Dave L":3oyrz0ci said:
I remember it as the GKs turning up on Somewhere in time, but I might be wrong. The MIDI-guitar stuff was on SiT too, I believe.
You're right...it was SIT...and I still thought they had some decent tones on that album. Wasted Years is one of my favorites to this day. Some of the material (Stranger in a Strange Land cones to mind) actually had somewhat of a prog-rock feel that worked well with those GK tones.
 
I agree with huge 80s gated 'verb drum sounds being AWESOME ! Slaughter's "Stick It To 'Ya " is a masterpiece of production and there's NO live drummer on it...a guitar player's DREAM ! I can't stand Korn, Limp Bizkit, etc...oh shit don't get me started !
 
tripstan":1pv2z8z2 said:
Anybody know what dipshit producer thought it was a great idea to have no dry signal and 100% wet for drums? I guess it doesn't really matter cause after that everybody jumped on the verb wagon and didn't even ask where the trail goes. Maybe it was all that awesome 80's coke :lol: :LOL:

The first time I remember being super aware of it was on Def Lep's "Pyromania". I'll go out on a limb here and blame Mutt Lange. Everyone seemed to want that sound after that album came out.

With that said, the guitar tones on "High 'N Dry" and "Pyromania" are some of my favorites of that decade. :rock:
 
For as successful as they were, Ritchie Sambora's tone especially on Slippery When Wet was crap.
 
danyeo":3ioy85dk said:
Yeah, just listen to the drum sounds on Yngwie's first solo albums. :lol: :LOL: Sounds like a chopstick hitting a sheet of tinfoil.....with the reverb knob set on 90. :lol: :LOL:

:lol: :LOL: i just listened to that cd in it's entirety yesterday driving 4 hours from the canadian border in montana to spokane and outside of yjm's massive chops, that's all i could think about! the snare and the overall band mix in the beginning of icarus dream actually made me laugh out loud. engineered by les claypool of primus and peter vargo


by contrast i then listened to the best of dokken and the snare was just so much more legit, though don's voice had about as much cajones as a ken doll.

i actually though how cool it would be if guthrie covered icarus dream with yngwie guesting, and maybe one of shawn lane's powers of ten classics, which also suffered from hideous drum sounds, rerecorded and produced with real, huge drum and guitar sounds, on his next cd.
 
I would actually rank the album in my top 10 faves........

but check out the tone on "To Mega Therion" by Celtic Frost. That has to be close to the worst tone ever. Sounds like a Metal Zone boosted with a fuzz pedal into a cocked wah.

But the album wouldn't be the same without it. I LOVE it.
 
80's Nugent! GK lunchbox for little miss dangerous! Yuck!
 
:dunno: I love Norum's tone in that vid and from that era ..
 
I don't want to offend God, but Stryper sounded like mini metal bumble bee robots buzzing around in the bottom of an old schoolhouse metal trash can.

Forgive me....

The weirdest mids,

Ever....
 
EyesOfTheSouth":19c6m9mb said:
I would actually rank the album in my top 10 faves........

but check out the tone on "To Mega Therion" by Celtic Frost. That has to be close to the worst tone ever. Sounds like a Metal Zone boosted with a fuzz pedal into a cocked wah.

But the album wouldn't be the same without it. I LOVE it.

I wonder if that's what they actually used? Was the Metal Zone around in 1985?

 
tripstan":o8yp5cy7 said:
Anybody know what dipshit producer thought it was a great idea to have no dry signal and 100% wet for drums? I guess it doesn't really matter cause after that everybody jumped on the verb wagon and didn't even ask where the trail goes. Maybe it was all that awesome 80's coke :lol: :LOL:

Funny you say that. ;)


In a documentary I saw about the film Scarface (which in itself epitomises the early 1980s excess and stimulant drug scene), Martin Bergman refers to the processed electronic disco sharp echoing & squawky-Rockman-guitar sound as the "Cocaine Sound".

Case in point:
 
guitarmike":3gw0npz2 said:
Judas Priest had terrible tone in the 80's.

I've been listening to a fair bit of 80s Judas Priest lately, and I hear what you are referring to.
It's like they tried to mask the processing but no matter what, it still tends to make the guitars sound a bit brittle and thin (despite the double-tracking & layering).

What gear did they use then?
 
IS Vinnie Vincent one of the original pin ball wizard guitar players? He sounds like an early Batio!..or a pinball machine or other arcade game ..
 
danyeo":286dp1le said:
Yes, when EVH went with chorus I hated his sound. It sounded like he used chorus as early as Fair Warning but with 0U812 his tone got soo processed.

Bob Bradshaw might have had a hand in that......?


I do need to listen to Fair Warning again, I wonder if that's just the MXR flanger used there on a slow setting?
 
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