This Was Fender's Plan All Along

[hellzington]

Hot take: Fender planned this whole thing from day one, and the cease and desist letters going to US builders right now are exactly the evidence they were missing when they lost the Strat body shape case in 2009.

Interested in your thoughts and opinions as always! Enjoy fam.

 

[Floyd Eye]

If they are sending cease and desist letters to US builders they're even dumber than we previously thought.

They lost their case in 2004, not over cease and desist letters, but because they spent decades, a lot of them, not defending their shit.

 

[311boogieman]

If they are sending cease and desist letters to US builders they're even dumber than we previously thought.

They lost their case in 2004, not over cease and desist letters, but because they spent decades, a lot of them, not defending their shit.

Right. Like a statute of limitations.

 

[Floyd Eye]

Right. Like a statute of limitations.

And it's not retractable. They fucked up a long time ago.

 

[tallcoolone]

Apparently it is now in Germany.

Strats are iconic. If you want a “non Fender” Strat roll your own with licensed wood.

I don’t get the drama—building a business around copying others’ designs always seemed dirty to me anyway

 

[Floyd Eye]

Apparently it is now in Germany.

Strats are iconic. If you want a “non Fender” Strat roll your own with licensed wood.

I don’t get the drama—building a business around copying others’ designs always seemed dirty to me anyway

Germany had nothing to do with the case in 2004. That was US specific.


I agree it's dirty, but frankly I'm not even hip on Mexican or Indonesian Fenders, much less Squires.

 

[tallcoolone]

Germany had nothing to do with the case in 2004. That was US specific.

I get it but I don’t get the hand wringing/pearl clutching on all the forums over this. If you want to sell guitars with your name on them, design the shape yourself.

 

[BlueParfait]

If they are sending cease and desist letters to US builders they're even dumber than we previously thought.

They lost their case in 2004, not over cease and desist letters, but because they spent decades, a lot of them, not defending their shit.

The point is to bleed their competitors out with frivolous lawsuits.

FMIC can afford to pay. Can Friedman? Splawn? Luxxtone?

 

[Floyd Eye]

I get it but I don’t get the hand wringing/pearl clutching on all the forums over this. If you want to sell guitars with your name on them, design the shape yourself.

I guess I haven't seen much hand wringing. It's news relating to stuff all of us have and use daily. So we're talking about it.

Really I was talking about it decades ago when I was getting into Rickenbackers.

 

[Floyd Eye]

The point is to bleed their competitors out with frivolous lawsuits.

FMIC can afford to pay. Can Friedman? Splawn? Luxxtone?

Are those companies selling lots of shit in Europe ?

 

[BlueParfait]

I get it but I don’t get the hand wringing/pearl clutching on all the forums over this. If you want to sell guitars with your name on them, design the shape yourself.

Nobody at "Fender" designed the shapes.

The man who did died decades ago.

Do tell us more why a brand owned by a car dealership company has more say to the basic tele shape than, say, MusicMan or G&L (RIP)

 

[BlueParfait]

Are those companies selling lots of shit in Europe ?

hmm idk about Europe but I'd expect at least some presence there. Could easily find Luxxtone and at some points Friedman in Asia

 

[S̷͖͑m̵͎͂á̵̺s̸͚̈́h̴̬̑]

I just have always thought it was one of the ugliest body/headstock shapes. Just looks soft.

The super strat is way better

 

[BlueParfait]

The super strat is way better

Another can of worms.

Where does "strat" end and "superstrat" begin? Was that even outlined in their docs? Are RGs safe, but Suhr Standards and EBMM Cutlasses not? Who knows lol

 

[Omnipotent1]

Apparently it is now in Germany.

Strats are iconic. If you want a “non Fender” Strat roll your own with licensed wood.

I don’t get the drama—building a business around copying others’ designs always seemed dirty to me anyway

People have the choice to blindly repeat the past or deliberately build on it.. True innovation has been displaced by regurgitation.

 

[tallcoolone]

Nobody at "Fender" designed the shapes.

The man who did died decades ago.

Do tell us more why a brand owned by a car dealership company has more say to the basic tele shape than, say, MusicMan or G&L (RIP)

Henry Ford is dead too but I still don't think rando companies should be selling Mustangs. Or Model Ts for that matter

 

[VonBonfire]

I just have always thought it was one of the ugliest body/headstock shapes. Just looks soft.

The headstock looks like a musical note but I think it was basically ripped off from a bigsby design. The body looks like an industrial toilet seat.

This was one of Jimi's:

 

[BlueParfait]

Henry Ford is dead too

Unfortunately.

 

[BlueParfait]

The headstock looks like a musical note but I think it was basically ripped off from a bigsby design. The body looks like an industrial toilet seat.

I am pretty sure both took the inspiration from violin spirals

 

[The~Kid]

All this shit only applies to Europe and Europeans as far as I know......



So why is everyone bitching..... You can still Buy these in the US and if Europeans want them they Will just have to Buy them in America or from an American shop.....


The people who Buy this shit are well to do fucks anyways who could afford them either way so whats the Big deal