TODAYS DEMOCRATS

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This thread is actually a pretty good microcosm of why electoral politics in the 21st century is a complete waste of time

- OP initiates political discussion with apparently earnest intent

- within a few replies, conversation between old men devolves into gradeschool-level insult badminton like “show us your vagina”
 
- OP initiates political discussion with apparently earnest intent

"Today known as progressives, modern liberals are no different in behavior from the morally-corrupt gangs of Marxist thugs who did so much to transform early 20th Century Tsarist Russia into a bloodbath without parallel in known human history."


No earnest intent. just another post painting Democrats as the roots of all evils.
 
"Today known as progressives, modern liberals are no different in behavior from the morally-corrupt gangs of Marxist thugs who did so much to transform early 20th Century Tsarist Russia into a bloodbath without parallel in known human history."


No earnest intent. just another post painting Democrats as the roots of all evils.
“Earnest” just means “sincere.”

You don’t think the OP is more or less sincere?
 
a couple of points that I realize will be completely disregarded but i gotta say em anyway:

Not disregarded, I pretty much agree

- Neither major American party bears more than a nominal resemblance to its original incarnation.
There are several historical reasons for this, but the easiest one to understand is that party affiliation in the South was largely flipped during the mid 1960s civil rights era, when the blue team at the national level aligned itself with the civil rights movement and against Jim Crow laws.
The Goldwater era shortly thereafter, had the same effect nationally.

True.

However, If you've been around long enough you'll know political parties have one core interest, power. They will adopt any belief, or strategy necessary to win.

When team blue jumped fully on board with the civil rights movement, they did that strategically to pull off some victories. The republicans needed to strike back, so they scooped up all those newly disenfranchised racists in the south.

- Neither major American party is “left” in any meaningful sense. The blue team is also a center-right conservative party. This has been the case for many decades but was particularly reinforced during the 90s, when the blue team abandoned a key part of its early support base, the labor unions, and aligned itself firmly with corporate interests.

Pretty much True. Democrat party is very center. Which is fine by me. BTW Why the fuck anyone would want extreme left, or right fuck heads in control? It might sound good on the surface, but history proves it's really fucking bad.
 
BTW Why the fuck anyone would want extreme left, or right fuck heads in control? It might sound good on the surface, but history proves it's really fucking bad.

100% agree. BUT here we are in the year 2023 and look what's happened to the GOP.....

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Maybe so, dude,
But, The democratic party is not ‘center’. Maybe, 60 years ago, but certainly not now.
What, in your estimation, are the characteristics of the political “center?”
 
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