Tone is in your Hand?

[Anonymous]

Yes, it's all in your left hand.

Steve

 

[glassjaw7]

Technique is.

 

[JimmyBlind]

 

[maddnotez]

Yes, it's all in your left hand.

Steve

So true,

Awesome video's though. I need to practice more I think.

 

[stephen sawall]

If you ever seen a dozen or more guitar players play the same riffs on the same rig with nothing changed but who is playing the guitar you could see how different the tone is.

I have ..... It can be extremely different.

Obviously changing any of the gear can also have a effect on the tone....

 

[C1-ocaster]

If you ever seen a dozen or more guitar players play the same riffs on the same rig with nothing changed but who is playing the guitar you could see how different the tone is.

I have ..... It can be extremely different.

Obviously changing any of the gear can also have a effect on the tone....

Everyone has their own take/opinion on what "Tone" is.
Much of the difference in opinion regards 'style'.
To me, "tone" is the audio frequency and timbre quality of the instrument and/or the tonal quality of the sound coming from the speakers.
For me, "tone" is more basic than what happens when a particular musician can do with the same gear.
When playing the same guitar on the same rig the basic "tone" is the same because no gear has changed.
What the player plays has a "tone" particular to their playing.
I agree there is some slight difference in the tones/frequency/timbre quality from different players, and I attribute that to how the pick and how they fret.
But overall, to me the basic "tone" as I identify it comes from the gear mostly and a little bit from the player.
So, "tone" is not all, nor is "tone" in your hand.
The majority of it is from the gear.

If we define "tone" in a more esoteric or artistic way, then yes that "tone" is in the hands of the player.
I liken it to the "tone" of a poem or story. Writers may use the same pen and paper, but what they write has a "tone".
In that regard, "tone" is in the hand/s of the player.

From the clinical point of view, tone is 90% gear and 10% player.
From the artistic point of view, tone is 90% player and 10% gear, and that 10% would be something like a wah pedal or phaser, echoooooo, etc....

This of course is simply MPOV, my point of view.

 

[IndyWS6]

I used to enjoy watching Denner's videos on You Tube - until they were all pulled for copyright infringement...

 

[JB6464]

Tone is in your wallet .
More Amps == More Tone.....

 

[glip22]

Expression, dynamics, pharsing, is in your hand coming from your head. Tone is in the players ability to do these things, the guitar, the strings, the cables, the amp, the speakers and cab, the room and on.. It's not just in the hands.

 

[JB6464]

If you ever seen a dozen or more guitar players play the same riffs on the same rig with nothing changed but who is playing the guitar you could see how different the tone is.

I have ..... It can be extremely different.

What your describing is technique and approach .
Change the players rig and his same technique and approach will sound different .
A Fender will not crunch and scream like a Marshall amp .

 

[Zachman]

To me the test is not to have 2 different guys play through the same rig, rather than have the same guy play through different rigs, set totally differently-- if the tone doesn't change-- then the tone is in the guys hands-- but it does, because it ain't.

'Tone is in the hands' is a literally incorrect and ambiguous phrase, that leaves room for misinterpretation, and miscommunication.

Some of us can and DO distinguish the difference between tone, technique, performance, style, and technical proficiency-- and apparently others can't, don't, or choose not to acknowledge the differentiation (Disingenuous, or limited perception, --who can say for sure).

We observe and perceive sound/tone, as a result of hands playing an instrument.

The instrument (Not the hands), produces a resulting sound, with tonal characteristics of it's own, in response to being played, which is heard by the ears and listened to by the brain.

Technique, Touch, and Style applied to the instrument will impact tone, ONLY to the degree/sonic range that the instrument make possible for the individual to coax out of it.

The gear matters, and clearly impacts/shapes, and creates the audible resulting sound and tone of what is being played.

It's possible to play well (Musically and technically), and sound sonically anemic aka having crappy tone.

Proficiency on the instrument is not the same thing as: Being musically expressive, being musical (technical vs expressive/soulful) with the instrument, being proficient at dialing in a great/specific tone, or being able to write, arrange, orchestrate, or produce a great tune/song, being able to play with other musicians, being able to entertain a crowd, being able to recreate a vibe including style/technique and tone, or to be able to learn & play parts correctly and interact with a band to make music.

 

[ejecta]

Around the 5 minute mark....

 

[Zachman]

Around the 5 minute mark....

Around 6:40

 

[ejecta]

Brad needs to change the name to Cello Talk.

 

[Zachman]

Brad needs to change the name to Cello Talk.

It makes the case for the instrument's tone vs the finger's though, illustrating the silliness of the debate that tone is in the hands/fingers. No, but technique, touch, and note choice are.

The only tone in the hands are when using one's fingers/hands to whistle, clap, or make hand/arm farts

 

[ejecta]

Brad needs to change the name to Cello Talk.

It makes the case for the instrument's tone vs the finger's though, illustrating the silliness of the debate that tone is in the hands/fingers. No, but technique, touch, and note choice are.

The only tone in the hands are when using one's fingers/hands to whistle, clap, or make hand/arm farts

Fact is if you played EVH's rig... the tone would be different than the one Ed gets. The only thing different is the hands so yes tone is in the hands.

 

[Zachman]

Brad needs to change the name to Cello Talk.

It makes the case for the instrument's tone vs the finger's though, illustrating the silliness of the debate that tone is in the hands/fingers. No, but technique, touch, and note choice are.

The only tone in the hands are when using one's fingers/hands to whistle, clap, or make hand/arm farts

Fact is if you played EVH's rig... the tone would be different than the one Ed gets. The only thing different is the hands so yes tone is in the hands.

Then why does Ed's tone vary from electric to acoustic, or today vs yesterday--when he uses his same hands?

Obviously our hands impact the end result, but it doesn't start and stop there. The potential/result needs to be there in the gear in the 1st place, for the hands to coax it out.

Fact: Put EVH through a POS setup, and the 'tone' changes.

Stylistically, Ed will 'sound like' Ed, but sonically his tone won't

 

[ejecta]

Brad needs to change the name to Cello Talk.

It makes the case for the instrument's tone vs the finger's though, illustrating the silliness of the debate that tone is in the hands/fingers. No, but technique, touch, and note choice are.

The only tone in the hands are when using one's fingers/hands to whistle, clap, or make hand/arm farts

Fact is if you played EVH's rig... the tone would be different than the one Ed gets. The only thing different is the hands so yes tone is in the hands.

Then why does Ed's tone vary from electric to acoustic, or today vs yesterday--when he uses his same hands?

Why can't you get Ed's tone playing his gear?

 

[Zachman]

Brad needs to change the name to Cello Talk.

It makes the case for the instrument's tone vs the finger's though, illustrating the silliness of the debate that tone is in the hands/fingers. No, but technique, touch, and note choice are.

The only tone in the hands are when using one's fingers/hands to whistle, clap, or make hand/arm farts

Fact is if you played EVH's rig... the tone would be different than the one Ed gets. The only thing different is the hands so yes tone is in the hands.

Then why does Ed's tone vary from electric to acoustic, or today vs yesterday--when he uses his same hands?

Because of the changes in recording gear and environment. Why can't you get Ed's tone playing his gear?

I don't assume I can't get Ed's 'tone' playing through Ed's gear. I can get it playing through my gear.

So, the gear changing-- made his tone different? Got it! Thanks for agreeing with my assertion, that the tone comes from the gear, being played by a player-- Not a hand or a finger.

 

[ejecta]

I don't assume I can't get Ed's 'tone' playing through Ed's gear. I can get it playing through my gear.

So, the gear changing-- made his tone different? Got it! Thanks for agreeing with my assertion, that the tone comes from the gear, being played by a player-- Not a hand or a finger.

No offense but you by no means nail Ed's tone. You couldn't even playing his rig.

Sorry.