Tone Vise Pitch Shifter - Move Over D-Tuna??

[7 Stringer]

Ran into an issue with my non recessed Floyd Rose.

Mine has a metal shim under the fine tuner tension plate. Whenever I drop it to D the tension plate pushes into the shim causing the bridge to be pulled back and therefore causes the strings to all go sharp.

Have you ever run into this?

Here is it. I pushed the bar down so it's visible....no its not setup that way!

I thought in order for this to work your bridge cannot be floating so if it can pull back with less string tension, then that tells me it is floating, no?

He mentioned he pushed the bar down for picture purposes, it is noy setup that way as it would never work.

 

[Metlupass2]

Ran into an issue with my non recessed Floyd Rose.

Mine has a metal shim under the fine tuner tension plate. Whenever I drop it to D the tension plate pushes into the shim causing the bridge to be pulled back and therefore causes the strings to all go sharp.

Have you ever run into this?

Here is it. I pushed the bar down so it's visible....no its not setup that way!

I thought in order for this to work your bridge cannot be floating so if it can pull back with less string tension, then that tells me it is floating, no?

He mentioned he pushed the bar down for picture purposes, it is noy setup that way as it would never work.

 

[scottosan]

Ran into an issue with my non recessed Floyd Rose.

Mine has a metal shim under the fine tuner tension plate. Whenever I drop it to D the tension plate pushes into the shim causing the bridge to be pulled back and therefore causes the strings to all go sharp.

Have you ever run into this?

Here is it. I pushed the bar down so it's visible....no its not setup that way!

I thought in order for this to work your bridge cannot be floating so if it can pull back with less string tension, then that tells me it is floating, no?

He mentioned he pushed the bar down for picture purposes, it is noy setup that way as it would never work.

I got that. If the shim was pushing against the body
making the bridge go away from the body, the strings would go flat. If lessening tension on the e causes strings to go sharp, there is still some play causing the bridge to pull closer to the body

 

[Emg77]

Can you adjust your fine tuner up enough to where it's not protruding from beneath the whale tail at all? If part of it is showing then your string will be sharp.

Yeah the fine tuner is backed out as far it will go. I’ve tried backing out the A fine tuner as well. Again, the D is still sharp. The Floyd is stable as well.

 

[7 Stringer]

Can you adjust your fine tuner up enough to where it's not protruding from beneath the whale tail at all? If part of it is showing then your string will be sharp.

Yeah the fine tuner is backed out as far it will go. I’ve tried backing out the A fine tuner as well. Again, the D is still sharp. The Floyd is stable as well.

If the E is in tune, drop the shifter in the D position and then adjust the fine tuner to fine tune to D. Switch back and forth and they should both be in tune.

Just did mine and it works perfectly.

 

[7 Stringer]

 

[7 Stringer]

The trem is blocked too far down i know, been like that for years. I will make a thicker shim. Someday.....lol

 

[7 Stringer]

Ran into an issue with my non recessed Floyd Rose.

Mine has a metal shim under the fine tuner tension plate. Whenever I drop it to D the tension plate pushes into the shim causing the bridge to be pulled back and therefore causes the strings to all go sharp.

Have you ever run into this?

Here is it. I pushed the bar down so it's visible....no its not setup that way!

I thought in order for this to work your bridge cannot be floating so if it can pull back with less string tension, then that tells me it is floating, no?

He mentioned he pushed the bar down for picture purposes, it is noy setup that way as it would never work.

I got that. If the shim was pushing against the body
making the bridge go away from the body, the strings would go flat. If lessening tension on the e causes strings to go sharp, there is still some play causing the bridge to pull closer to the body

I dont really get it. If there is play when going up to E, the springs need to be tightened. When the trem is sitting on the body, even if playing with string tension, nothing should be going sharp or flat. It is basicly a fixed bridge. If so, back springs needs more tension.

 

[scottosan]

Ran into an issue with my non recessed Floyd Rose.

Mine has a metal shim under the fine tuner tension plate. Whenever I drop it to D the tension plate pushes into the shim causing the bridge to be pulled back and therefore causes the strings to all go sharp.

Have you ever run into this?

Here is it. I pushed the bar down so it's visible....no its not setup that way!

I thought in order for this to work your bridge cannot be floating so if it can pull back with less string tension, then that tells me it is floating, no?

He mentioned he pushed the bar down for picture purposes, it is noy setup that way as it would never work.

I got that. If the shim was pushing against the body
making the bridge go away from the body, the strings would go flat. If lessening tension on the e causes strings to go sharp, there is still some play causing the bridge to pull closer to the body

I dont really get it. If there is play when going up to E, the springs need to be tightened. When the trem is sitting on the body, even if playing with string tension, nothing should be going sharp or flat. It is basicly a fixed bridge. If so, back springs needs more tension.

He said the strings go sharp when dropping to D. So like I stated there is still float. Tightening the springs should resolve this. Was I making a point otherwise?

 

[7 Stringer]

Ran into an issue with my non recessed Floyd Rose.

Mine has a metal shim under the fine tuner tension plate. Whenever I drop it to D the tension plate pushes into the shim causing the bridge to be pulled back and therefore causes the strings to all go sharp.

Have you ever run into this?

Here is it. I pushed the bar down so it's visible....no its not setup that way!

I thought in order for this to work your bridge cannot be floating so if it can pull back with less string tension, then that tells me it is floating, no?

He mentioned he pushed the bar down for picture purposes, it is noy setup that way as it would never work.

I got that. If the shim was pushing against the body
making the bridge go away from the body, the strings would go flat. If lessening tension on the e causes strings to go sharp, there is still some play causing the bridge to pull closer to the body

I dont really get it. If there is play when going up to E, the springs need to be tightened. When the trem is sitting on the body, even if playing with string tension, nothing should be going sharp or flat. It is basicly a fixed bridge. If so, back springs needs more tension.

He said the strings go sharp when dropping to D. So like I stated there is still float. Tightening the springs should resolve this. Was I making a point otherwise?

Missed it then. Did not see your response about tightening the springs.

No sweat.

 

[Emg77]

Can you adjust your fine tuner up enough to where it's not protruding from beneath the whale tail at all? If part of it is showing then your string will be sharp.

Yeah the fine tuner is backed out as far it will go. I’ve tried backing out the A fine tuner as well. Again, the D is still sharp. The Floyd is stable as well.

If the E is in tune, drop the shifter in the D position and then adjust the fine tuner to fine tune to D. Switch back and forth and they should both be in tune.

Just did mine and it works perfectly.

The only adjustment with fine tuner available is to sharpen the D not flatten it. That’s the problem.

 

[7 Stringer]

Can you adjust your fine tuner up enough to where it's not protruding from beneath the whale tail at all? If part of it is showing then your string will be sharp.

Yeah the fine tuner is backed out as far it will go. I’ve tried backing out the A fine tuner as well. Again, the D is still sharp. The Floyd is stable as well.

If the E is in tune, drop the shifter in the D position and then adjust the fine tuner to fine tune to D. Switch back and forth and they should both be in tune.

Just did mine and it works perfectly.

The only adjustment with fine tuner available is to sharpen the D not flatten it. That’s the problem.

??? Why would that be? I can flat or raise my D with no problem? Why cant you?

Mine is installed on an Edge, maybe they work differently?

 

[Emg77]

Can you adjust your fine tuner up enough to where it's not protruding from beneath the whale tail at all? If part of it is showing then your string will be sharp.

Yeah the fine tuner is backed out as far it will go. I’ve tried backing out the A fine tuner as well. Again, the D is still sharp. The Floyd is stable as well.

If the E is in tune, drop the shifter in the D position and then adjust the fine tuner to fine tune to D. Switch back and forth and they should both be in tune.

Just did mine and it works perfectly.

The only adjustment with fine tuner available is to sharpen the D not flatten it. That’s the problem.

??? Why would that be? I can flat or raise my D with no problem? Why cant you?

Mine is installed on an Edge, maybe they work differently?

With the E engaged the fine tuner is backed all the way out. So, I don’t remember how the edge operates but the only adjustment would be to sharpen the note by tightening the fine tuner.

 

[7 Stringer]

Can you adjust your fine tuner up enough to where it's not protruding from beneath the whale tail at all? If part of it is showing then your string will be sharp.

Yeah the fine tuner is backed out as far it will go. I’ve tried backing out the A fine tuner as well. Again, the D is still sharp. The Floyd is stable as well.

If the E is in tune, drop the shifter in the D position and then adjust the fine tuner to fine tune to D. Switch back and forth and they should both be in tune.

Just did mine and it works perfectly.

The only adjustment with fine tuner available is to sharpen the D not flatten it. That’s the problem.

??? Why would that be? I can flat or raise my D with no problem? Why cant you?

Mine is installed on an Edge, maybe they work differently?

With the E engaged the fine tuner is backed all the way out. So, I don’t remember how the edge operates but the only adjustment would be to sharpen the note by tightening the fine tuner.

I posted a pic couple posts up, the fine tuner works just like normal on mine, when in E the fine tuner is not touching the bolt but in D is like normal.

Anyways, it works great on the Edge so far.

 

[Riggins1966]

Can you adjust your fine tuner up enough to where it's not protruding from beneath the whale tail at all? If part of it is showing then your string will be sharp.

Yeah the fine tuner is backed out as far it will go. I’ve tried backing out the A fine tuner as well. Again, the D is still sharp. The Floyd is stable as well.

If the E is in tune, drop the shifter in the D position and then adjust the fine tuner to fine tune to D. Switch back and forth and they should both be in tune.

Just did mine and it works perfectly.

The only adjustment with fine tuner available is to sharpen the D not flatten it. That’s the problem.

??? Why would that be? I can flat or raise my D with no problem? Why cant you?

Mine is installed on an Edge, maybe they work differently?

same here. As long as my E is at pitch, when I drop to D I can tune up or down.

 

[Dave Simpson]

What happens when you make a tuning adjustment in D and go back to E? If the fine tuner has to be all the way out when tuning the E what happens when it's protruding if you have to make an adjustment in D?

 

[Riggins1966]

What happens when you make a tuning adjustment in D and go back to E? If the fine tuner has to be all the way out when tuning the E what happens when it's protruding if you have to make an adjustment in D?

I have it set so that it doesn't touch the screw when in E. As long as your trem is stable and maintains pitch when in E, it won't be a problem.

 

[Speeddemon]

Installed it today on my Kramer SM-1 (had to wait to get the trem stop in).
Works like a charm!

 

[Tone Vise]

Installed it today on my Kramer SM-1 (had to wait to get the trem stop in).
Works like a charm!

Looks great! Thanks you!

 

[tlingen]

Will the Gotoh Floyd version be released soon?