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I listened to it like 5 times? and I am not sure either.
It's awesome to hear new tool music after 13 years but, I agree not a mind blowing experience as it was listening to Aenima, Lataterus, or even 10000 days for the first time.
I am a fan so I preordered the LE CD though, friggin $37! but it comes with a LCD screen w speaker, exclusive videos, booklet, etc. hoping it's an album I will treasure til the next album comes out(in 2040?)
 
megaboogie":1lj6tu7r said:
I listened to it like 5 times? and I am not sure either.
It's awesome to hear new tool music after 13 years but, I agree not a mind blowing experience as it was listening to Aenima, Lataterus, or even 10000 days for the first time.
I am a fan so I preordered the LE CD though, friggin $37! but it comes with a LCD screen w speaker, exclusive videos, booklet, etc. hoping it's an album I will treasure til the next album comes out(in 2040?)

LCD what with what?
 
sutepaj":1brbpol0 said:
I just listened to the track with some good headphones. I will preface this by saying between 93-04, I was the biggest Tool fan you could possibly ever meet. I was a true fanboy. I guess I started going in a different way musically, but I still really love those first 3 albums a lot.

This song, I don't feel it at all. There is no "magic" like those old songs had. It feels so paint-by-numbers and just slogging through the motions. Even on first listen, I could predict his drum fills, what was coming next... What is up with his guitar tone in this song? I guess he was going for a real guttaral tone but man, it sounds like he forgot to turn up his tone knob and recorded with a Pignose amp. It almost sounds like a band trying to sound like Tool. I do still look forward to hearing the album but I hope this is not a sign of things to come.

This is the way channel 3 on a vh4 sounds. Many songs on Lateralus have this sound.
The song is not good, but the guitar tone was often dark on previous albums, even Aenima features very dark tones.
The Marshall can be heard on Undertow and Ticks and Leeches (very bright imho).
 
FourT6and2":3sm5j8ge said:
I actually agree. The new song just released is boring.

Same :-/

Though I haven't listened to it loud yet, I expect that VH4 grind will just fatigue my ears though.
 
Gave it a listen just now. Honestly liked it. :shrug
 
FourT6and2":2boe9tjz said:
megaboogie":2boe9tjz said:
I listened to it like 5 times? and I am not sure either.
It's awesome to hear new tool music after 13 years but, I agree not a mind blowing experience as it was listening to Aenima, Lataterus, or even 10000 days for the first time.
I am a fan so I preordered the LE CD though, friggin $37! but it comes with a LCD screen w speaker, exclusive videos, booklet, etc. hoping it's an album I will treasure til the next album comes out(in 2040?)

LCD what with what?

"a built-in four-inch rechargeable HD screen, with built-in two watt speaker"
 
Just listened to the new track...and I like it! I can understand why people aren't getting instant gratification from it. There's a lot going on, even if on the surface it sounds a bit monotonous. Definitely parts I didn't jive with, but other parts gave me goosebumps. It is just really awesome to hear something fresh from Tool. Yes, they have changed, but this is still getting me into that psychedelic, spaced out mindset that only Tool (and some Pink Floyd) can do.

Psyched to hear the whole album!
 
Vin Diezel":1jknb9uu said:
sutepaj":1jknb9uu said:
I just listened to the track with some good headphones. I will preface this by saying between 93-04, I was the biggest Tool fan you could possibly ever meet. I was a true fanboy. I guess I started going in a different way musically, but I still really love those first 3 albums a lot.

This song, I don't feel it at all. There is no "magic" like those old songs had. It feels so paint-by-numbers and just slogging through the motions. Even on first listen, I could predict his drum fills, what was coming next... What is up with his guitar tone in this song? I guess he was going for a real guttaral tone but man, it sounds like he forgot to turn up his tone knob and recorded with a Pignose amp. It almost sounds like a band trying to sound like Tool. I do still look forward to hearing the album but I hope this is not a sign of things to come.

This is the way channel 3 on a vh4 sounds. Many songs on Lateralus have this sound.
The song is not good, but the guitar tone was often dark on previous albums, even Aenima features very dark tones.
The Marshall can be heard on Undertow and Ticks and Leeches (very bright imho).

By your screename, I am assuming you have played channel 3 on a VH4. I have extensively. That is not how it sounds to me, it sounds like a terrible representation mixed with some other amps maybe.
 
I wrote a long rundown of what the interview in Guitar World said but I guess I didnt click submit?? Anyway he used a Marshall Superbass and VH4 recorded each as a seperate track. Then a Bogner Uberschall and a Rivera recorded on one track. That was the main dirty sound on this ablum. Also used an old Orange, a new Fryette built Soundcity stack on some parts. Marshall cab with the Marshall with V30 or greenbacks and a Mesa v30 with the VH4. Also a Rivera and soundcity cab with their matching heads.


Its a new issue of Guitar World. Adam Jones is on the cover. Tom Morello, and Alex Skolnick have articles in this particular issue. I just got it with my subscription so it should be out soon.
 
I own a vh4 at this very moment. :dunno:
It has that slighty fuzzy compressed overdrive and big low mids and bass.
I would not think of another amp in that Tool song.

The Rivera might be similar. They also sound very fat, e.g. Knucklehead Tre.

I do not hear any Marshallness in this track, so I guess it was mixed low or was left out.
What is recorded and what one hears in the final mix is often not the same.

The bass sound is very good. Always has been with Tool. I love that. Drums also.
 
Justin Chancellor and Danny Carey are just monster players, and Justin Chancellor does a great job IMHO working effects to make the bass fit what the riff needs.

Surprised to read criticism of the Jonez Tonez! To me the last few albums sound very much like the VH4, though there's a biting krang on the top end when he lets some chords ring out, and that IME is not the VH4 but sounds like a raging Super Lead.

I've had an original blueface VH4, and while it sounded like a VH4, it also was not nearly as gainy, tight, and bright as the newer ones. I really like the way the new ones sound. The blueface was cool but had a different vibe for sure.
 
i just listened to it twice and i think it's dope
the overall production seems thin though?
i was never a huge fan but always liked and respected the band and have all of their cd's.
one thing i noticed was that the bass was not as loud as past productions.
the guitar tones of the previous albums never stood out to me or seemed "benchmark' like VH 1-6 Metallica's MOP or ________ legendary guitar tone that people froth over and chase.
it reminds me of rush, devin townsend and a bit of king crimson.
i listen to WSOU all day in the car so as far as 75% of the new metal and hard rock out there this is slamming and progressive, rather hear this than dream theater and I love complicated /shred stuff
but hey
who gives a fuck what i think!
 
Some over dramatic reactions all over the internets, its not the end of the world if it doesn't jump out straight away as amazeballs, Lateralus was a real grower of an album. Maybe I'm not one of the cool kids to say I hate it immediately.
Tool obviously are sticking to their core sound and vision, it's really been that way since Opiate, shouldn't be a surprise.
If they changed too much they'd get panned, if they stay in their lane they get panned... dammed either way, same as most bands out there really. I still find more depth in the last three Tool albums than most other metal acts with their paint by numbers sellout repeat of the previous album ( Mastadon, Slayer, Killswitch, Korn, Slipknot, Megadeth, Amon Amarth, Dream Theater... insert name here...)
The duration between albums has really influenced the hype and expectations, but lets just see how the full album turns out, and not just from one listen through. It shouldn't surprise anyone the riffing is basically the same as Jones has always done, he's comfy in his spot and not suddenly become a shredder.
The riffs on Opiate and Undertow are extremely simplistic yet they garner great support, Aenima and Lateralus were a bit more technical in comparison, yet people are hating on this song because it's too simplistic? The song Opiate has barely 3 riffs, yet it's still great. Opiate and Undertow had a Helmet type vibe to them early on, I'm glad they found their voice on Aenima. I like all their albums, don't get me wrong, but the first two don't touch the later albums for complexity and variety.
I disagree the song sound like pure VH4 ch3, I think there is more going on than just that. I think he's rolled his tone knob down a little to get that 'Pushit' type fuzzy tone.
I liked the intro with Adam on the left speaker doing volume swells, and Justin on the right doing swells also following the guitar ones. At first listen I thought it was just Adams guitar swells panning across in the repeats, left to right, but it's not that basic.
I'm looking forward to the album release, but maybe I'm just a uncool fanboi though if say it on a forum. Im not one of the hipster Player Haters.
 
I think Undertow is my favorite album. It's raw and visceral and angry. It's like swampy prog metal. Love it. Aenema is a close second. More artsy and trippy and experimental but still has that raw aggression to it. Lateralus and 10K Days are great. Still fantastic musicianship and writing. But if I had to choose one, it'd be Undertow.
 
I don't see the problem with the new tune...Tool has never been, well, predictable? So what if it's a little different. That's kinda their thing, from my point of view at least. I'm with others in that sometimes an album takes time to grow...on us that is.
 
FourT6and2":s62mqwl7 said:
I think Undertow is my favorite album. It's raw and visceral and angry. It's like swampy prog metal. Love it. Aenema is a close second. More artsy and trippy and experimental but still has that raw aggression to it. Lateralus and 10K Days are great. Still fantastic musicianship and writing. But if I had to choose one, it'd be Undertow.

Same.
 
Tracklisting posted and there are 3 bonus tracks available online after purchase.


'Fear Inoculum' tracklisting:
1. Fear Inoculum
2. Pneuma
3. Invincible
4. Descending
5. Culling Voices
6. Chocolate Chip Trip
7. 7empest
Bonus tracks:
• Litanie contre la Peur
• Legion Inoculant
• Mockingbeat
 
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