
EchelonEngineering
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psychodave":2pbfuxsp said:EchelonEngineering":2pbfuxsp said:petejt":2pbfuxsp said:I know it's just a general question, and CAN be answered simply- but the matter of the fact is that there are MANY variables into why an EQ control knob is set where it is. Different amplifiers have different EQ ranges for each treble, midrange, bass, and presence control knob. You crank the treble knob to 10 (or 5 o'clock) on two different amps and get two completely different sounds. Just because one musician might crank the treble on their amp, does not mean it would sound bright, harsh, and so piercing as to cause pain in the audience. Their amp might just inherently dark, so the treble needs to be turned right up to overcome that.
A large factor is if the tone stack is located prior to the preamp valves (pre-gain EQ), or after them (post-gain EQ). My Mesa/Boogie MarkIV has a pre-gain EQ tone stack, so the treble control in particular will greatly affect the signal level overall as well as the treble frequency ranges. If you turn the treble down, the signal will be weaker no matter how much the gain knob is cranked up, thus will not become as distorted. If you turn it up, it attenuates the signal less, thus can become more distorted when the gain is cranked up. So you can see that the Treble control has a lot more impact than just making a guitar signal sound brighter or darker.
Some treble controls affect more of the high-mids, thus could sound more midrangey rather than trebly and bright. In these cases, the presence control will affect the very high end treble frequencies. You can have a relatively dark but punchy midrangey sound even with the treble cranked, if the presence is turned right down. And at other times, the presence can be turned up so high, that it gets too piercing. And what about external equalisers? They often can boost the top end way beyond just cranking the treble control.
Maybe the speakers sound shrill and harsh when heard from a distance? Maybe the acoustics of the room over-emphasised the brightness of the guitar sound, beyond what was heard on the stage? Sometimes having too much high-mids can sound harsh and piercing, it depends on the particular frequency within that range, and whether a particular amp preferentially amplifies that frequency more than other amps.
So you can't just draw the line at Treble control knob settings.
You sir, must not have a life and spend all your waking moments trying to micro manage your rig. sit down, shut up, plug in and rock. The man just wanted to know about where folks are using the treble control. Now you're Einstein, trying to solve the mystery of the space time continuuuum by adding x, y and z into the equation. No need. Take your ritalin and relax.
Your response would be better suited towards Kirk...![]()
I don't think so there buddy. The man asked a general question intending on receiving general answers, not scientifically calculated answers dependant on when the moons of jupiter line up!