Trump/Vance just put Zelinskyy in his place

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VonBonfire said:
Ok.
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Dude........



I'm kind of agreeing with you.....


And my points show as much.....



But it seems your blind logic for communist interpretation of things under a false banner of American idealogy blinds you from that...... for example taking the side of Anti-American beliefs and and stances taking the side of Russia over Ukraine.....



In general as said CA and the West of America is turning more Red/Republican and you really can't find a better example than Orange County, SoCal or California in general given the trends and numbers of the last election.
 
Tonelover said:
Are you better off than you were three months ago? How about the price of them eggs! How has the stock market done recently? Should have put all my money in Trump meme coins. He is the next Messiah after all.
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Actually I am, but maybe you should ask that question 3 years from now. I would ask if you were better off at any time during Biden's term than the previous 4 years, but we already know you weren't. Just like all 8 years of Obama were an economic fucking nightmare.
 
The~Kid said:
It's not bad or good the deal didn't get signed and it really is probably the best option and thing that could have happened.


The way I see it's just a process in free individuals making their own decisions freely to reach an equilibrium vs the Russian way of life/thinking or Chinese way of life from that perspective and value such places hold on individual freedom or individual choice. In either case the Chinese and Russians are also free agents seeking to make decisions in a part of that equilibrium to shape the world how they want it.


In a free market and free world nothing is pretty all the time but things always seem to work themselves out in the end and this is just a step in that direction.
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You're making too much sense...please keep it up!

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Floyd Eye said:
Actually I am, but maybe you should ask that question 3 years from now. I would ask if you were better off at any time during Biden's term than the previous 4 years, but we already know you weren't. Just like all 8 years of Obama were an economic fucking nightmare.
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I could show you my investment portfolion return over the past four years. Let's just say it would buy me a few quitars. Not one complaint here.
 
The~Kid said:
But it seems your blind logic for communist interpretation of things under a false banner of American idealogy blinds you from that...... for example taking the side of Anti-American beliefs and and stances taking the side of Russia over Ukraine.....
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Communism in Russia ended in '89. I'm guessing you were born around '87. It was kind of a big deal but you were too young to remember. We lost you somewhere in the California educational system.

Floyd Eye said:
Just like all 8 years of Obama were an economic fucking nightmare.
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That guy was a real stinker.
 
VonBonfire said:
Communism in Russia ended in '89. I'm guessing you were born around '87. It was kind of a big deal but you were too young to remember. We lost you somewhere in the California educational system.


That guy was a real stinker.
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If you think communists ideals and values ended in 89 then your a fool......



Your here spouting why it's foolery in a sense peddling for modern day communist ideals knowingly or unknowingly.
 
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Tonelover said:
I could show you my investment portfolion return over the past four years. Let's just say it would buy me a few quitars. Not one complaint here.
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Yeah, mine was okay too, but nowhere near the ROI I was getting during Trump 1.0. My old lady is a FO and CPA though so she will adapt to whatever. That really has very little to do with the economy though. Or the expendable cash situation.
 
OldGtrGuy said:
Haven't watched the whole thing, just bits and pieces but idk. I feel that Trump/Vance are the disrespectful ones here.

From the moment Trump greeted his arrival, apparently Trump was offended the guy wasn't wearing a suit? Pfft..

Then the bits and pieces I did see from the videos it seems like Trump/Vance are just playing the strong arm gang leader role and expecting him to kiss their ass and lick their balls. They were offended that he didn't and became pretty disrespectful.

I understand he needs the US help to end this but he did have some points about Russia killing and invading (that's another story) but if Vance wants to talk about diplomacy, I think that should include respect from both sides and not just kiss my ass or else.

Seems like the only time he got disrespectful to us was because he was tired of everyone taking shots at him, cutting him off and acting tough.
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VonBonfire said:
Then why you in here crying? Go buy some guitars and shut the front door already.
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Trying to defend the concept of the freedoms we have and have supported around the world, which the freaks here seem to be against for some strange reason. But you are right, hanging out here causes me nothing but nausea. Later.
 
The~Kid said:
I don't think many are aware but yeah these three countries and their allies.....



America, China and Russia are playing to see whos way of life, whos ideas and values and who comes out as top dog in the next 100 years.



It's a competition for the Hegemon of the world for the next 1000 years...... and this century decides that outcome pretty much.



It's a battle for which way of life comes out on top.......




Maybe some are happy to throw in the towel or not realize this but IMO out of the three the American/Western way of life and what the west represents is worth fighting for and worth preserving. Western values and ideals should not and will not quietly go into the night and they will not under any circumstances with people like Zelensky or people in Ukraine and other parts of the world including America.
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Tonelover said:
Trying to defend the concept of the freedoms we have and have supported around the world, which the freaks here seem to be against for some strange reason. But you are right, hanging out here causes me nothing but nausea. Later.
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What freedoms did we support? Meddling in Ukraine? Meddling in Central America? Iran? Iraq? Afghanistan? Vietnam? Korea? Europe? The days of funding the world police are over chief.
 
VonBonfire said:
In Russia it did. I'd take you more seriously if your grammar was better.
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Bro I'm just saying.....




As a normal American.....



Who voted for Trump in CA or other coastal places and normal places in America......



You know....... like you know what I mean......




I mean come on dude.
 
VonBonfire said:
I know you got no clue. You seem convinced that you're some big conservative now. It's kinda funny but your opinions are like a ball game on a rainy day. Soggy.
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No they aint.....




Yours are but what are mine 🥹
 
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