Trying the TNT LeTekro Boss BF2 Mids trick Video clip

[Gainfreak]

Guitar -> OD1 -> BF2 -> Amp?

Yes sir

 

[Gainzilla]

That sounded great Mark!!! Im a long time fan of Ronni and was pretty stoked when Curt and Ralphie cracked the code...

Kage

 

[Mark Day]

That sounded great Mark!!! Im a long time fan of Ronni and was pretty stoked when Curt and Ralphie cracked the code...

Kage

Thanks Kage. Ronni is the man for sure! Curt and Ralphie get big kudos for this find. I was always a big fan of that strange middy sound ala Furman PQ3. Stryper, TNT, Icon, Wrabbit, etc.


Mark

 

[craftm1]

Sounds great Mark as usual. Don't sell your self short, your a real guitar player also!

 

[Gainfreak]

That sounded great Mark!!! Im a long time fan of Ronni and was pretty stoked when Curt and Ralphie cracked the code...

Kage

Sup Brother! Curt mose definitely gets the Nod for cracking the code with the BF-2 find. I just followed his lead and tried it and new instantly that he had cracked the code! That little Bf-2 is like a parametric eq stuck on the Ronni frequency and a narrow bandwith

 

[Gainfreak]

That sounded great Mark!!! Im a long time fan of Ronni and was pretty stoked when Curt and Ralphie cracked the code...

Kage

Thanks Kage. Ronni is the man for sure! Curt and Ralphie get big kudos for this find. I was always a big fan of that strange middy sound ala Furman PQ3. Stryper, TNT, Icon, Wrabbit, etc.


Mark

Like I said to Kage, Curt gets the Nod for that Find!! In looking at the above post, you and I not only share the love of gain but the love the same type of 80's tiones

 

[Gainzilla]

That sounded great Mark!!! Im a long time fan of Ronni and was pretty stoked when Curt and Ralphie cracked the code...

Kage

Sup Brother! Curt mose definitely gets the Nod for cracking the code with the BF-2 find. I just followed his lead and tried it and new instantly that he had cracked the code! That little Bf-2 is like a parametric eq stuck on the Ronni frequency and a narrow bandwith

Yo kid back in the day, you did a scary good rendition with the PQ3 and the MkIV, had me shaking my head in disbelief!!!

 

[ZMAN]

This so much reminds me of so many 80's tunes , H & Ralph sat me down on separate occasions and blasted me with our Mark series and a PQ3 . It was like the 80's metal gods tones !!! Seeing the Bf-2 trick , I like it better than a pq-3 . Anyone try this out yet with a JVM ? I remember Ralph sitting me down going ok Joe .. try this out and nailing the Mark with the Pq-3 ... I felt like Marty McFly in Back to the future . Too much fun !!

Z

 

[Mark Day]

I used to hit my 1977 and 1978 Marshall 2204's with a PQ3. I went into the Low Channel and set the amp clean. The Furman had a preamp overdrive thingo if you went in and out of the low channels of the unit and engaged the "Gain/Preamp" button of the front panel. I would also add an MXR Micro Amp after the Furman. The tone was very cool and sounded like Stryper, Icon, Wrabbit and TNT. I was doing this in about 1983/84. I saw Lee Aaron in a club in around that time, the guitarist John Albani was using this setup and he was kind enough to walk me through it. The next day I went on a shopping spree and bought everything I needed. This was before I ever heard of Stryper, TNT or Icon. I remember the tone he had was like nothing I had ever heard before.

I think John owns a studio in Nashville called Landshark or something. Man he was such a great player live.

Mark

 

[Chubtone]

I too was using a PQ-3 starting in about 1984. I had two Marshall heads but did not run into the low level inputs of the heads. I went into the low level inputs on the Furman, the absolute key! I remember seeing guys in bands with the Furman and they weren't running them right. You could tell by the sound and when you saw their Furman's, the little input light was not peaking. That input light needed to be blinking like it was trying to warn you of impending doom. So I went Furman into a Scholz Stero Chorus Delay into two Marhalls heads in stereo. Then, when I could afford it I replaced the Scholz chorus with the Lexicon PCM41 and that tone just ruled.

 

[Chubtone]

And Ronni runs his BF-2 before his overdrive. His overdrive is the last thing in his chain. Ibanez wah > Boss CE-2 > Boss BF-2 > Boss OD-1. Sometimes he used two OD-1's.

 

[Mark Day]

I too was using a PQ-3 starting in about 1984. I had two Marshall heads but did not run into the low level inputs of the heads. I went into the low level inputs on the Furman, the absolute key! I remember seeing guys in bands with the Furman and they weren't running them right. You could tell by the sound and when you saw their Furman's, the little input light was not peaking. That input light needed to be blinking like it was trying to warn you of impending doom. So I went Furman into a Scholz Stero Chorus Delay into two Marhalls heads in stereo. Then, when I could afford it I replaced the Scholz chorus with the Lexicon PCM41 and that tone just ruled.

Exactly! I ran my guitar into the Furman then into a Micro Amp then a Boss Noise Gate then into an Ibanez Ad202 Analog delay set for Doubling and modulated it into big fat chorus then into another AD202 for delay. I also had a dual 15 band graphic EQ. I had a little switching system setup that I built so that I could run a clean signal into one side of the EQ and the dirty signal into the other side then out to the AD202's and choose whether clean or dirty hit the front of the amp. It was a pretty cool clean sound because the LOW In on the 2204 Marshall skipped a gain stage in the preamp section. I used to have guitarists in the audience charge the stage after a show trying to figure out what the hell I was running It was such a cool rig and I used it for years before I bought an RSB18 system. Then I used an Eventide H3000 for the chorus/doubling....a very expensive chorus...lol

Mark

 

[70strathead]

I too was using a PQ-3 starting in about 1984. I had two Marshall heads but did not run into the low level inputs of the heads. I went into the low level inputs on the Furman, the absolute key! I remember seeing guys in bands with the Furman and they weren't running them right. You could tell by the sound and when you saw their Furman's, the little input light was not peaking. That input light needed to be blinking like it was trying to warn you of impending doom. So I went Furman into a Scholz Stero Chorus Delay into two Marhalls heads in stereo. Then, when I could afford it I replaced the Scholz chorus with the Lexicon PCM41 and that tone just ruled.

Exactly! I ran my guitar into the Furman then into a Micro Amp then a Boss Noise Gate then into an Ibanez Ad202 Analog delay set for Doubling and modulated it into big fat chorus then into another AD202 for delay. I also had a dual 15 band graphic EQ. I had a little switching system setup that I built so that I could run a clean signal into one side of the EQ and the dirty signal into the other side then out to the AD202's and choose whether clean or dirty hit the front of the amp. It was a pretty cool clean sound because the LOW In on the 2204 Marshall skipped a gain stage in the preamp section. I used to guitarist charge the stage after a show trying to figure out what the hell I was running It was such a cool rig and I used it for years before I bought an RSB18 system. Then I used an Eventide H3000 for the chorus/doubling....a very expensive chorus...lol

Mark

this all sounds too famaliar to me. The PQ-3 through late 70's JMP was my choice at that time too as well as the Alesis Quadroverb in the loop. But one day the guitarist from Private Life which was a band Eddie Van Halen sorta endorsed at that time, came up to me said try this..BOSS- SD-1 and turn off that rack stuff..whalla, that was the end of rack days for me. : ) the natural tone of the amp was much more in your face and organic/raw. never went back

 

[Gainfreak]

And Ronni runs his BF-2 before his overdrive. His overdrive is the last thing in his chain. Ibanez wah > Boss CE-2 > Boss BF-2 > Boss OD-1. Sometimes he used two OD-1's.

I tried it Both ways and it always sounded better to my ears with the OD in front. I couldn't get it to sound right the way he set it up. I kept on going back and forth both way's and compared the two sounds for an hour before I just said screw it and figured that I like it better with the OD first ,but then again I wasn't using an OD-1 like he was.
Either way, Major props for hipping us to this because it sounds killer!

 

[Mark Day]

I too was using a PQ-3 starting in about 1984. I had two Marshall heads but did not run into the low level inputs of the heads. I went into the low level inputs on the Furman, the absolute key! I remember seeing guys in bands with the Furman and they weren't running them right. You could tell by the sound and when you saw their Furman's, the little input light was not peaking. That input light needed to be blinking like it was trying to warn you of impending doom. So I went Furman into a Scholz Stero Chorus Delay into two Marhalls heads in stereo. Then, when I could afford it I replaced the Scholz chorus with the Lexicon PCM41 and that tone just ruled.

Exactly! I ran my guitar into the Furman then into a Micro Amp then a Boss Noise Gate then into an Ibanez Ad202 Analog delay set for Doubling and modulated it into big fat chorus then into another AD202 for delay. I also had a dual 15 band graphic EQ. I had a little switching system setup that I built so that I could run a clean signal into one side of the EQ and the dirty signal into the other side then out to the AD202's and choose whether clean or dirty hit the front of the amp. It was a pretty cool clean sound because the LOW In on the 2204 Marshall skipped a gain stage in the preamp section. I used to guitarist charge the stage after a show trying to figure out what the hell I was running It was such a cool rig and I used it for years before I bought an RSB18 system. Then I used an Eventide H3000 for the chorus/doubling....a very expensive chorus...lol

Mark

this all sounds too famaliar to me. The PQ-3 through late 70's JMP was my choice at that time too as well as the Alesis Quadroverb in the loop. But one day the guitarist from Private Life which was a band Eddie Van Halen sorta endorsed at that time, came up to me said try this..BOSS- SD-1 and turn off that rack stuff..whalla, that was the end of rack days for me. : ) the natural tone of the amp was much more in your face and organic/raw. never went back

I much prefer my Od100 with a Koko Boost in front than the PQ3 thing as well, but I gotta admit this BF2 thing is a pile of fun

I like my GCX and pedals with a GMajII in the loop with a Suhr Minimix...it keeps the dry tone intact

Mark

 

[jerrydyer]

sounds pretty damn close. I think you play great

 

[jerrydyer]

I have an MXR .... hhhmm ?

 

[Mark Day]

sounds pretty damn close. I think you play great

Thanks Jerry!!!


Mark

 

[Chubtone]

this all sounds too famaliar to me. The PQ-3 through late 70's JMP was my choice at that time too as well as the Alesis Quadroverb in the loop. But one day the guitarist from Private Life which was a band Eddie Van Halen sorta endorsed at that time, came up to me said try this..BOSS- SD-1 and turn off that rack stuff..whalla, that was the end of rack days for me. : ) the natural tone of the amp was much more in your face and organic/raw. never went back

I started on the SD-1 and then did the Furman thing. I remember that the Furman just was way more saturated and gainy than the SD-1. When both guitarists in my band ran that rig it was freaking huge. It was a WALL of sound. But it certainly wasn't that pure of a guitar tone like the SD-1 was/is. A Marshall with an SD-1 one sounds like a guitar. At one point my rack was up to 3 spaces - Furman - Rocktron Hush - Lexicon PCM-41 into two amps. Then everyone just kept getting more and more crazy with their rigs and the racks grew huge. I remember the day I broke down and bought an ADA MP1 and disconnected my old stuff and got that ADA rig working and I was just stunned at the lack of immediacy coming out of my cabinet. Do you know what I mean? I NEVER heard a rack rig that didn't sound like the speakers were in the back part of the cabinet and the cabinet was four feet deep. It's the kind of thing most people would never even notice until they muted their strings with their left hand and wacked the strings with their pick through that rig and then did the same with an overdrive pedal into a Marshall. It's tough to describe, but the Marshall was right there and the sound was a part of you. With the rack rigs, the sound was "over there" and though there was virtually no latency between the note being played and you hearing it. It just didn't feel right. Maybe I was nuts? Either way, the ADA went back to the store two days later.

 

[Mark Day]

Question for Kurt and Ralphie and anyone else who wants to jump in....

I think I have a pretty close rendition of this using my AxeFx (some guys have been asking if I could do this tone with the Snax for them).
I'm putting a filter in front of the gain stages of the preset.
Whatcha think the BF2 is notched at? I'm figuring kinda like where I used to set my PQ3...somewhere between 500-800hz..what's your guess or opinion??


Mark