Under Lock and Key

[Shiny_Surface]

I was a teen taking guitar lessons when this album came out, one of my all time favorites.

 

[rupe]

What I'm saying is that there are many ways to get 800hz into the mix.

BF-2

 

[charveldan]

Doesn't suprise me George used one of these, i tried to get one at the time but they were too pricey.

So i guess "Jaded Heart" was recorded with a Rockman as well.

 

[Gainfreak]

This is from an old version of the Lynch website.

The workhorse amplifier setup consisted of 1968 and 1971 100-watt Marshall Super Lead heads powering vintage Marshall cabinets with metal handles, green Tolex and 25/30-watt speakers. In a couple of these 4x12"
boxes Lynch installed Fane speakers pulled from Vox Bulldog cabinets. He also employed a variety of other
amplifiers for the LP.

George used a mix of these different Marshall set-ups in the studio which resulted with a clean power section to
preamp through. Included here are two 1968 Marshall plexi heads and a 100-watt Marshall Super Tremolo that
were modified by Lee Jackson of Metaltronix, fitting them with 6550 power tube sections.
Signal routing was more simplistic than presented here. As Lynch explained it at the
time, "I use an old Ibanez Tube Screamer or a Boss GE-7 to preamp my amps a little.
Other than that, I don't use pedals except an A/B switch to throw on another guitar. I
go stereo out of a Lexicon PCM-41 with 28 milliseconds of delay to fatten up my
rhythms." Also pictured here two Rocktron HUSH II-C's to keep things quiet on both
sides of stereo application. A Rockman Distortion Generator was used to push the
signal a little more to the power section. Used in A/B switching, there is also a
Rockman X100-B in a Rockmount for a chorused clean signal. While using the clean
alongside the high gain in an A + B application in tandem, Lynch describes the sound
as "giving it a a bit of a shimmer and percussion" to the rhythm guitar parts.

As mentioned, Lynch used an old Ibanez Tube Screamer or the BOSS GE-7 to preamp his amps. Above is the
TS-808 that has been present for most of Lynch's recording career, as was used during the 1985 recording of
Dokken's "Under Lock And Key" album.

Which would be right in line with what I was saying. If a Rockman was used, it would have been used with an amp and layered in with other amps.
What I'm basically saying is that I think some guys thing its 100% Rockman and that's just nuts to me.(clean sound excluded) Well unless Ive got it wrong and they don't think so, but I have heard this before (people thinking the tone is 100% rockman)

 

[Anonymous]

This is from an old version of the Lynch website.

The workhorse amplifier setup consisted of 1968 and 1971 100-watt Marshall Super Lead heads powering vintage Marshall cabinets with metal handles, green Tolex and 25/30-watt speakers. In a couple of these 4x12"
boxes Lynch installed Fane speakers pulled from Vox Bulldog cabinets. He also employed a variety of other
amplifiers for the LP.

George used a mix of these different Marshall set-ups in the studio which resulted with a clean power section to
preamp through. Included here are two 1968 Marshall plexi heads and a 100-watt Marshall Super Tremolo that
were modified by Lee Jackson of Metaltronix, fitting them with 6550 power tube sections.
Signal routing was more simplistic than presented here. As Lynch explained it at the
time, "I use an old Ibanez Tube Screamer or a Boss GE-7 to preamp my amps a little.
Other than that, I don't use pedals except an A/B switch to throw on another guitar. I
go stereo out of a Lexicon PCM-41 with 28 milliseconds of delay to fatten up my
rhythms." Also pictured here two Rocktron HUSH II-C's to keep things quiet on both
sides of stereo application. A Rockman Distortion Generator was used to push the
signal a little more to the power section. Used in A/B switching, there is also a
Rockman X100-B in a Rockmount for a chorused clean signal. While using the clean
alongside the high gain in an A + B application in tandem, Lynch describes the sound
as "giving it a a bit of a shimmer and percussion" to the rhythm guitar parts.

As mentioned, Lynch used an old Ibanez Tube Screamer or the BOSS GE-7 to preamp his amps. Above is the
TS-808 that has been present for most of Lynch's recording career, as was used during the 1985 recording of
Dokken's "Under Lock And Key" album.

Which would be right in line with what I was saying. If a Rockman was used, it would have been used with an amp and layered in with other amps.
What I'm basically saying is that I think some guys thing its 100% Rockman and that's just nuts to me.(clean sound excluded) Well unless Ive got it wrong and they don't think so, but I have heard this before (people thinking the tone is 100% rockman)

That is all I was saying as well. Not just a Rockman and the Rockman isn't the main tone if it was mixed in...

Steve

 

[Gainfreak]

This is from an old version of the Lynch website.

The workhorse amplifier setup consisted of 1968 and 1971 100-watt Marshall Super Lead heads powering vintage Marshall cabinets with metal handles, green Tolex and 25/30-watt speakers. In a couple of these 4x12"
boxes Lynch installed Fane speakers pulled from Vox Bulldog cabinets. He also employed a variety of other
amplifiers for the LP.

George used a mix of these different Marshall set-ups in the studio which resulted with a clean power section to
preamp through. Included here are two 1968 Marshall plexi heads and a 100-watt Marshall Super Tremolo that
were modified by Lee Jackson of Metaltronix, fitting them with 6550 power tube sections.
Signal routing was more simplistic than presented here. As Lynch explained it at the
time, "I use an old Ibanez Tube Screamer or a Boss GE-7 to preamp my amps a little.
Other than that, I don't use pedals except an A/B switch to throw on another guitar. I
go stereo out of a Lexicon PCM-41 with 28 milliseconds of delay to fatten up my
rhythms." Also pictured here two Rocktron HUSH II-C's to keep things quiet on both
sides of stereo application. A Rockman Distortion Generator was used to push the
signal a little more to the power section. Used in A/B switching, there is also a
Rockman X100-B in a Rockmount for a chorused clean signal. While using the clean
alongside the high gain in an A + B application in tandem, Lynch describes the sound
as "giving it a a bit of a shimmer and percussion" to the rhythm guitar parts.

As mentioned, Lynch used an old Ibanez Tube Screamer or the BOSS GE-7 to preamp his amps. Above is the
TS-808 that has been present for most of Lynch's recording career, as was used during the 1985 recording of
Dokken's "Under Lock And Key" album.

Which would be right in line with what I was saying. If a Rockman was used, it would have been used with an amp and layered in with other amps.
What I'm basically saying is that I think some guys thing its 100% Rockman and that's just nuts to me.(clean sound excluded) Well unless Ive got it wrong and they don't think so, but I have heard this before (people thinking the tone is 100% rockman)

That is all I was saying as well. Not just a Rockman and the Rockman isn't the main tone if it was mixed in...

Steve

YUP!

 

[thiswaythatway]

Yeah, it sounds like George used a Rockman like he would a pedal, it's not all Rockman tone as miuch as it is the Rockman just coloring the sound just a little bit.

Now Def Leppard Hysteria, that entire album sounds like ALL Rockman.

 

[Digital Jams]

Yeah, it sounds like George used a Rockman like he would a pedal, it's not all Rockman tone as miuch as it is the Rockman just coloring the sound just a little bit.

Now Def Leppard Hysteria, that entire album sounds like ALL Rockman.

It was, Mutt had 100% control and he wanted to use the Rockman.

Def Lange did not shit unless Mutt said they could.

 

[Shiny_Surface]

All I know is I'm busting out my MIJ GE-7 when I get home from work today.

 

[RoidRage]

He Definately Did... Cause back in the day my friend had dinner with him the night of a show, and was back stage watching him mess with the Rockman... It was in his rack

He said he "Just added A Little Bit". I remember Thinking... "Hmm, Mad Scientist!".

Roid RAGE

 

[Greazygeo]

So who has a Rockman sitting around? I'll put this to rest for you guys.

 

[Gainfreak]

So who has a Rockman sitting around? I'll put this to rest for you guys.

I do and if you think that tone is 100% Rockman you are flat out wrong. If you think the Rockman was used in conjunction with an amp then id agree with you

I have a Rockman Distortion generator at my disposal. i could easilly pipe that through the power section of my Fortin marshall

 

[rupe]

So who has a Rockman sitting around? I'll put this to rest for you guys.

I have a Sustainor if you want it

 

[jerrydyer]

just listen to "when the lightning strikes."

 

[Gainfreak]

So who has a Rockman sitting around? I'll put this to rest for you guys.

I have a Sustainor if you want it

Oh shit.. I think this is what I have. Not the Dist generator but same concept IMHO

 

[Gainfreak]

just listen to "when the lightning strikes."

Most definitely has a Rockman vibe but Im not hearing 100% Rockman.

I'll say it again but in a different way...... IT WOULD NOT SURPRISE ME IF A ROCKMAN WAS USED ON THAT RECORDING BUT I'M NOT HEARING 100% ROCKMAN. THERE IS OTHER SHIT MIXED IN IMHO

 

[Gainfreak]

Oh, And just for the record, I'm having fun with this. Im not trying to intentionally piss everyone off!

I am very familiar with the Rockmans. Ive used them for years for direct recording ideas before we had all the amp modelors and Ive used them in front of amps (oddly enough never through a loop)

When you use them Direct they sound like Def Lep even when you use heavy EQ'ing.

Just my 0.02 and all IMHO.

 

[rupe]

So who has a Rockman sitting around? I'll put this to rest for you guys.

I have a Sustainor if you want it

Oh shit.. I think this is what I have. Not the Dist generator but same concept IMHO

Same distortion circuit...the Sustainor just brought more snacks to the party.

 

[RoidRage]

Oh, And just for the record, I'm having fun with this. Im not trying to intentionally piss everyone off!

I am very familiar with the Rockmans. Ive used them for years for direct recording ideas before we had all the amp modelors and Ive used them in front of amps (oddly enough never through a loop)

When you use them Direct they sound like Def Lep even when you use heavy EQ'ing.

Just my 0.02 and all IMHO.

Gain,

See my POST ON TOP!!! ^^^^^

Roid

 

[jerrydyer]

just listen to "when the lightning strikes."

Most definitely has a Rockman vibe but Im not hearing 100% Rockman.

I'll say it again but in a different way...... IT WOULD NOT SURPRISE ME IF A ROCKMAN WAS USED ON THAT RECORDING BUT I'M NOT HEARING 100% ROCKMAN. THERE IS OTHER SHIT MIXED IN IMHO

your right its not the rockman alone. He recorded the majority of rythms using is it ( and his other amps) then went back and blended it in where it worked.